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Loading my cellphone up with Bob Crosby and Ink Spots and got some solar panels just in case.
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IronClaymore posted:It's the target control/traffic control/AWACS who's going to get grilled. The F-16 might not even have a proper radar reading on the Su-24, but if data was obtained through a better radar and computer the fighter could have just been the launcher. lol, future war is going to be drones/blimps placed a few miles apart hovering at 50,000 feet and blowing the hell out of anything higher than jumping distance
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ashgromnies posted:wait, the kurds/PKK are "bad" now? i thought we fought the first gulf war to try to save them. this poo poo is so confusing. They're bad to Turks, who have been stomping on the throats of kurds in Turkey for the last couple decades The PKK are rebels against the Turkish government and there's no line between "guerrilla" and "terrorist" these days. ashgromnies posted:and the saudis want assad and his government deposed so i am pretty sure we are on the wrong side of this thing, because gently caress the saudis Please imagine a 20 person mantrain, each butt-loving the guy they hate the most while being butt-hosed by the guy who hates them. That's the middle east. Klyith fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Nov 24, 2015 |
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Nov 24, 2015 15:08
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the kurds have like 500 different groups all doing their own thing
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Nov 24, 2015 15:09
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It's weird but Donald Trump is probably the most pro-Russian Republican candidate. Or at least he's the only one who says he can talk and "do business" with them instead of yelling about shows of strength and building up the military.
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Nov 24, 2015 15:14
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ashgromnies posted:wait, the kurds/PKK are "bad" now? i thought we fought the first gulf war to try to save them. this poo poo is so confusing. Wait until you find out that America is supplying rebels who are allied with al Qaeda in Syria (al Nusra)
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Nov 24, 2015 15:16
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Dusty Baker 2 posted:Wait until you find out that America is supplying rebels who are allied with al Qaeda in Syria (al Nusra) poo poo we're giving billions to Saudi Arabia and isis is funded by them because that's where their wayward teenagers go instead of blowing up their own homes
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Nov 24, 2015 15:17
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ashgromnies posted:and the saudis want assad and his government deposed so i am pretty sure we are on the wrong side of this thing, because gently caress the saudis Assad is a bit like Hussein. Evil dictator who's kinda religious but not really and can somehow keep a nation unified within borders established arbitrarily a hundred years ago by dying colonialist empires. You can look at someone like him now, with the benefit of hindsight, and realise what would happen if he was deposed. Yes he's an evil dick. But dicks like Assad, are just the sort of person you need to gently caress arseholes like IS....no wait that's from Team America. It's a relevant point though. Evil loving dictator bastards like Assad are just the sort of people that need to remain in control. Sure they burn peoples' balls into nothingness with blowtorches, and get family members to inform on each other, and control the media, but they're still better than what comes after. You hear stories from places like Syria, or Iraq, or Afghanistan, or Iran, about how great it was before superpowers tried to manipulate things. (Some of it's hype, sure.) Authoritarian secretly-secular dictators are what you get now as a result, but as with IS and Iraq things get worse if you don't stop trying to gently caress things up more. IronClaymore fucked around with this message at 15:29 on Nov 24, 2015 |
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Nov 24, 2015 15:21
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Robo Reagan posted:poo poo we're giving billions to Saudi Arabia and isis is funded by them because that's where their wayward teenagers go instead of blowing up their own homes Turns out ISIS is a youth jobs program that went awry
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Nov 24, 2015 15:21
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Klyith posted:They're bad to Turks, who have been stomping on the throats of kurds in Turkey for the last couple decades it seems pretty dumb to try to depose a nominally stable government in favor of backing fractured rebels who would seemingly kill each other at the earliest opportunity in part of a war with multiple opposing factions, but i am not an expert on these things
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Nov 24, 2015 15:22
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katlington posted:what is this A joke. I'm not surprised you had trouble figuring this out.
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Nov 24, 2015 15:23
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VendaGoat posted:A joke. I'm not surprised you had trouble figuring this out. its just normally people dont associate Scrubs with jokes or anything funny tbh
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Nov 24, 2015 15:25
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Robo Reagan posted:lol, future war is going to be drones/blimps placed a few miles apart hovering at 50,000 feet and blowing the hell out of anything higher than jumping distance Blimps make a comeback? In the automated warfare period of human military science? I want to see that.
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Nov 24, 2015 15:32
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IronClaymore posted:Blimps make a comeback? In the automated warfare period of human military science? I want to see that. they already slap a camera on blimps and float them over military bases. why not attack a rocket pod too?
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Nov 24, 2015 15:34
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So are we still going to pretend that Turkey is our strong and reliable ally in the middle-east?
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Nov 24, 2015 15:34
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Can we just drop turkey from nato seriously turkey sucks
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Nov 24, 2015 15:34
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A real Turkey shoot
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Nov 24, 2015 15:38
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Happy Thanksgiving!
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Nov 24, 2015 15:39
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I wish we had the balls to murder one of the russian subs which keep popping up but nope we're too lame and cowardly
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Nov 24, 2015 15:41
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hemale in pain posted:I wish we had the balls to murder one of the russian subs which keep popping up but nope we're too lame and cowardly i mean, you can kill one but ten more show up to get killed it's a real waste of missiles
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Nov 24, 2015 15:42
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hemale in pain posted:I wish we had the balls to murder one of the russian subs which keep popping up but nope we're too lame and cowardly Their bombers show up in our airspace all the time. We just escort them out, although it's all over the ocean. If it was over land I could see it going worse.
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Nov 24, 2015 15:45
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Blurry Gray Thing posted:The only way this will turn into WWIII is if America decides this is where they make a stand against the Russians, the real enemy, and back Turkey 100%, no matter how things deteriorate. That'd be some Doctor Strangelove level bullshit Get yo head in the game son
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Nov 24, 2015 15:46
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ethanol posted:Can we just drop turkey from nato seriously turkey sucks Ehh, all of NATO, and the EU, is a bunch of competing interests. The enforced hegemony is great for tourism though, not to mention trade. Trade's what matters. Same reason I'm not so worried about terrorism; I'm more likely to die of skin cancer. But if trade shuts down or even slows a little that means a few people on the edge of finances can't afford the slightly more expensive medicines and people die. Robo Reagan posted:they already slap a camera on blimps and float them over military bases. why not attack a rocket pod too? I know a guy who did something with military UAVs, I'll ask him why they didn't use blimps. But I bet it's a combination of response time, vulnerability, and the fact that we all have an irrational hatred towards blimps.
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Nov 24, 2015 15:55
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yeah but im thinking of it more like a cost thing. like, make the rocket pods impact resistant and if one gets shot down just inflate another one but im probably retarded because they porbablyh would have done that if they could
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Nov 24, 2015 15:57
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a war didnt happen over russia murdering almost 300 nato civilians and people think that one of their planes being shot down by turkey is going to spark ww3
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Nov 24, 2015 15:58
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Turkey ignores and indirectly supports IS because the group is fighting against Turkey's enemies. Russia also ignores IS because their presence takes the focus away from Assad and allows him to rule as the "lesser evil". This whole thing is all kinds of amazing
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Nov 24, 2015 15:58
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Fojar38 posted:a war didnt happen over russia murdering almost 300 nato civilians and people think that one of their planes being shot down by turkey is going to spark ww3 i hope russia threatens turkey with economic sanctions lol
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Nov 24, 2015 15:59
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IronClaymore posted:But I bet it's a combination of response time, vulnerability, and the fact that we all have an irrational hatred towards blimps. Man, gently caress blimps.
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Nov 24, 2015 16:00
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The world will finally unite against isis when they start using blimps thats for sure.
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ashgromnies posted:it seems pretty dumb to try to depose a nominally stable government in favor of backing fractured rebels who would seemingly kill each other at the earliest opportunity in part of a war with multiple opposing factions, but i am not an expert on these things yes well you just don't understand the US middle east "punching ourselves in the dick over and over" strategy
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Nov 24, 2015 16:08
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inb4 political cartoon of Putin Obama and a really anti-semitic Netanyahu carve up a turkey which represents you guessed it, Turkey
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Nov 24, 2015 16:14
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Alan Smithee posted:inb4 political cartoon of Putin Obama and a really anti-semitic Netanyahu carve up a turkey which represents you guessed it, Turkey 18 political cartoonists just looked up from their drafting boards and yelled gently caress
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Nov 24, 2015 16:15
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Still going to label the turkey as "Turkey" maybe put a crescent and star on it. Actually maybe put "Turkey (the country)" on the turkey; can't leave these things to chance.
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Nov 24, 2015 16:17
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IronClaymore posted:Assad is a bit like Hussein. Evil dictator who's kinda religious but not really and can somehow keep a nation unified within borders established arbitrarily a hundred years ago by dying colonialist empires. You can look at someone like him now, with the benefit of hindsight, and realise what would happen if he was deposed. Yes he's an evil dick. But dicks like Assad, are just the sort of person you need to gently caress arseholes like IS....no wait that's from Team America. It's a relevant point though. It's worth pointing out here that for once the West didn't actually cause the mess in Syria. Our, good, strong, secular, friendly dictator Assad managed to gently caress the whole country up into endless civil war himself through greed, stupidity and corruption. You can hardly shrug your shoulders and say he's mean but he's probably the best person to rule the place. He caused this.
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Nov 24, 2015 16:22
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For best results fry your turkey this year in carbon-14
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Nov 24, 2015 16:23
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Fargo Fukes posted:It's worth pointing out here that for once the West didn't actually cause the mess in Syria. Our, good, strong, secular, friendly dictator Assad managed to gently caress the whole country up into endless civil war himself through greed, stupidity and corruption. You can hardly shrug your shoulders and say he's mean but he's probably the best person to rule the place. He caused this. no actually this is americas fault
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Nov 24, 2015 16:24
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Robo Reagan posted:yeah but im thinking of it more like a cost thing. like, make the rocket pods impact resistant and if one gets shot down just inflate another one but im probably retarded because they porbablyh would have done that if they could If modern military action has taught us anything, it's that that taxpayer is willing to pay certain costs, for certain illusions of security. Really, what are Hellfire missiles made of? If anything, the introduction of blimps will make them charge even more.
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Nov 24, 2015 16:27
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How close is Turkey to India? I feel like you can't have a thanksgviing turkey until a lot of Indians are killed
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okay how about a gun that can only fire money?
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