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Mange Mite posted:well good thing we have you to defend the honor of sex workers *hooting and hollering* YEAH YOU TELL 'EM MANGE YOU TELL 'EM!
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Lufiron posted:she should talk to a lawyer, the police, anything but just mentioning it on twitter. she's doing herself, as well as other victims of rape, a disservice by doing anything less. Talking to a lawyer is not necessarily going to do anything. Private attorneys can refer someone who believes themselves to be a victim to the District Attorney's office in the county where the rape took place. The D.A. would then decide whether or not to bring criminal charges. The same thing with the police, they would conduct an interview and open an investigation if warranted and even arrest an individual if they felt they had probable cause to believe a crime transpired. But rape can be particularly difficult to prove weeks/months after the fact because there exists little to no evidence, and often times alcohol, or sometimes drugs were involved, and there is sometimes an element of consent. Upon facts like that it doesn't take a good attorney to rip a rape accuser to shreds on cross-examination. Not reporting the rape to the authorities is sadly common with victims of rape, for various reasons. You hear about the fight/flight response sometimes- particularly in the accusatory "Why didn't you run? "Why didn't you fight him?" vein; but people forget there's a third response- freeze. Some women just freeze up because they don't want to be hurt further, they can't believe what is happening to them, they are shocked that someone they knew & possibly loved would treat them this way. Most rapes are not committed by strangers, but by someone the victim knows, even trusts. It is possible that James Deen could sue Stoya for defamation (libel is a type of defamation, and there are other types - false light, public disclosure of private facts, others depending upon the jurisdiction); but truth is an absolute defense to a cause of action for defamation. And talking about how a rape victim will be hosed again is particularly crass. Anyway, others have come forward: Joanna Angel: https://twitter.com/JoannaAngel/status/671029860999954433 Tori Lux: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/30/tori-lux-james-deen-assaulted-me-too.html?via=twitter_page And jezebel has an update with James Deen's denial: http://jezebel.com/porn-star-james-deen-vehemently-denies-ex-girlfriend-st-1745190900
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Lufiron posted:she should talk to a lawyer, the police, anything but just mentioning it on twitter. she's doing herself, as well as other victims of rape, a disservice by doing anything less. There's not really anything she can do but to mention it on Twitter, at this point. Even if his career and personal reputation take a hit, that's still a victory, and she doesn't have to be silent anymore. Lunchmeat Larry posted:some really good posts in here. keep it up boys. this must be the famouf Something Awful "Irony" in action........ One of my friends did porn for a little bit and I'd honestly be pretty pissed to find out she ever got raped. Hell she might've hosed James Deen for all I know. Professor Shark posted:Which one was it that did an AMA on here who demanded that her boyfriend always be in the room for any scene she did and got didn't give a gently caress when it made some people uncomfortable and then she ended up not getting any work? Annie Cruz?
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Nurel posted:fellow goon james deen and his beautiful girlfriend august aimes dont give no poo poo about raping old whore stoya - she probably held his hand all the way through, too. Kevin Moore is not James Deen.
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Kumo posted:Talking to a lawyer is not necessarily going to do anything. Private attorneys can refer someone who believes themselves to be a victim to the District Attorney's office in the county where the rape took place. The D.A. would then decide whether or not to bring criminal charges. The same thing with the police, they would conduct an interview and open an investigation if warranted and even arrest an individual if they felt they had probable cause to believe a crime transpired. Lol, this chucklefuck
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I get that there's a serious problem with rape being really hard to prosecute because no matter what the guy can just go "uh no that didn't happen" and a lot of the time that's all there is to it because the cops are like "well he said it didn't happen, sorry v v", but are we really at the point where you can just tweet that your ex did something and it's Automatically True for political reasonsLike, arson is also hard to prosecute but if my ex gets a bunch of Internet attention and I tweet that she burned down a house once, people won't get actually really mad at the concept of someone not believing me
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Well there's zero motivation for anyone to ever make an untrue rape accusation because spite was wiped out in the late 19th century.
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loquacius posted:I get that there's a serious problem with rape being really hard to prosecute because no matter what the guy can just go "uh no that didn't happen" and a lot of the time that's all there is to it because the cops are like "well he said it didn't happen, sorry v rape is different than other crimes because men work together to protect the patriarchy
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JB50 posted:As someone who was abused by a prominent member of the BDSM community and deleted my social media accounts because I couldn’t handle seeing him praised as a “feminist”, I’m awed by Stoya’s bravery. I hope she gets all the support she deserves. a prominent member of the BDSM community 
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loquacius posted:I get that there's a serious problem with rape being really hard to prosecute because no matter what the guy can just go "uh no that didn't happen" and a lot of the time that's all there is to it because the cops are like "well he said it didn't happen, sorry v Yes because status quo is its automatically false for political reasons.
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Top City Homo posted:a prominent member of the BDSM community The BDSM community sort of gave the USA Obama.
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not to get too controversial here but maybe people should report rape to police when it happens to them so that a timely investigation can occur?? because if you don't you kind of lose the right to complain about how the system failed you and how nobody cares about your rape. not saying that's what Stoya is doing
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etalian posted:The BDSM community sort of gave the USA Obama. thought it was the swinger scene
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Germstore posted:Well there's zero motivation for anyone to ever make an untrue rape accusation because spite was wiped out in the late 19th century. The statistics of false rape in the U.S. are in the neighborhood of 4-8%. Other countries report 1-10%. It is understandably hard to quantify.
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ArmZ posted:Yes because status quo is its automatically false for political reasons. You're probably trolling me, in that you appear to be saying we should automatically believe one person because other people will automatically believe the other person, but there is a good point in the post regardless: These kinds of accusations are like any other kind of accusation that doesn't have any kind of proof behind it in that everyone decides who they think is Probably Right based on their innate biases and also who they liked better before they read the details, and won't really change their mind under any circumstances. Hence some people will accept the tweet as gospel and some will immediately dismiss it. It'd be the same if she said he keyed her car or refused to give her back her favorite blanket after they broke up, but people are paying more attention to it than those hypotheticals because obviously the stakes are way higher.
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City of Tampa posted:not to get too controversial here but maybe people should report rape to police when it happens to them so that a timely investigation can occur?? Some people do, but there are a lot of reasons why they do not. Here's an article from a few years back about a British Detective detailing the events of his own sexual assault: http://www.theguardian.com/global/2011/apr/04/raped-policeman-colleagues-investigation
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I hope no one actually believes that this lady was raped because goddamn lol she made a loving twitter announcement now that her career is dying down.
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If I was a big name porn actor I'd probably avoid dating porn stars. Just seems professional, really Also, rape is pretty bad. I think it should be illegal
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katlington posted:*holds your face and stares at you really hard* I saw one James Deen video after he got really popular with the ladies, just to see what it was all about. I watched it for about 3 minutes, and this was about 2 minutes of what I saw. It was creepy.
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Kumo posted:
Then I guess we can never talk about half (or more?) of the porn industry
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learning the backstory of several pornstars itt thank!! for hte knowledge
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I air all of my grievances on twitter before disappearing for three weeks so I don't have to elaborate or, you know, do anything really
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Unrelated, Stoya's Verge column is bad like this one "Dear Stoya, I have a very common insecurity regarding my sexual stamina. Do you have any sex advice you would like to dispense via your sex advice column?" "Instead of answering your question, I'm going to complain at length about how porn is shot. Blah blah blah blah... hm? Oh, looks like I'm done complaining about porn and never answered your question but the column is almost over, so instead I'm going to assume that you don't know what foreplay is. Try foreplay."
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loquacius posted:Unrelated, Stoya's Verge column is bad Unsurprisingly, porn stars who try to pivot into other fields using their fame end up being terrible at them. Sasha Gray is a terrible actress, Stoya is a terrible writer, James Deen is a terrible rapist
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BigBoss posted:Lol feminist porn is pretty much all about being dominated by a man because no matter how much they sqawk, they can't get away from their shameful desires :biotruth:
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City of Tampa posted:not to get too controversial here but maybe people should report rape to police when it happens to them so that a timely investigation can occur?? should you report a rape knowing there is virtually no chance of conviction, and a certainty that you will be defamed and ostracized by the people around you, including the people who are supposed to 'serve and protect you' and any semblance of familiarity with your former life will be erased?
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Kilmers Elbow posted:A rebel without consent.
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loquacius posted:also while clicking back in the thread I saw someone mention Judaism as though it were relevant and sure enough that poster was Mange Mite There's something about Porn and Jewish Infiltration that really scratches the minds of Crazy quote:For instance, I discovered Gianna Michaels' real name is [REDACTED] which immediately set my jewdar off. Then I began to notice the slight reptilian nature of her face, especially when she's in motion.
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I would like to just come forward in this time of egregious grief and strife and remind you all that I, a known and loved Booblord, does not give two shits about any of this, be it good, bad or indifferent. I advise you all to do as I have and take off the false clothes of care and shame and embrace the hot, seething hatred of this world and those who dwell upon it to keep you warm instead of suits made of moral fabric. She is simply flesh made to feel pain, as is he. You have met neither, their pain is not yours, it is not ours, it is merely the embers that keep this hearth warm so that we may bask in the life affirming violence and excitment that make this boring faux enlightenment period we all pretend to live in somewhat easier to stomach.
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Booblord Zagats posted:I would like to just come forward in this time of egregious grief and strife and remind you all that I, a known and loved Booblord, does not give two shits about any of this, be it good, bad or indifferent. I advise you all to do as I have and take off the false clothes of care and shame and embrace the hot, seething hatred of this world and those who dwell upon it to keep you warm instead of suits made of moral fabric. She is simply flesh made to feel pain, as is he. You have met neither, their pain is not yours, it is not ours, it is merely the embers that keep this hearth warm so that we may bask in the life affirming violence and excitment that make this boring faux enlightenment period we all pretend to live in somewhat easier to stomach. this is a really long safeword, but ok I'm done
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