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lfield posted:Who would you pick to lead Labour instead of Corbyn? Anybody else. Except McDonnell of course. And Abbott.
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lfield posted:Who would you pick to lead Labour instead of Corbyn? Fair play to you for trying but we go through this literally every single time and he refuses to ever name anybody. By all means fill your boots, though.
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Dec 28, 2015 23:26
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pissflaps is the labour establishment in miniature get used to corbyn and make the best out of the situation instead of bitching and moaning
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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blowfish posted:pissflaps is the labour establishment in miniature No.
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Oberleutnant posted:just loving shut up and kiss me you swine Closet Tory spotted.
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OwlFancier posted:Closet Tory spotted. I want a big sloppy kiss w/ tongues from Pissflaps aka Liz Kendall
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Oberleutnant posted:Fair play to you for trying but we go through this literally every single time and he refuses to ever name anybody. By all means fill your boots, though. I'm not sure if you know this, but you don't have to reply to every single one of his posts and anything mentioning him.
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Oberleutnant posted:I want a big sloppy kiss w/ tongues from Pissflaps aka Liz Kendall You can't have one. I'm married.
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thespaceinvader posted:The crux of your argument then is that he hasn't proved he can win an election and the only way you'll be satisfied he can is if he in fact does. and the crux of yours is that we should just take corbyn's 2020 victory as a given since he has 400000 labour members and a single by-election victory! nothing he's doing gives me faith that these aren't one off consequences of the labour leadership election and a split, polarizing opposition what has he done in oldham that can be generalized to somerset or london or cambridge or scotland? not much. momentum is the only productive thing that's been done to guarantee a 2020 victory and even that's not particularly successful (despite my 10 quid  )i'll happily be proven wrong in 2020, under PM Corbyn
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Pissflaps posted:Anybody else. So you're just being contrarian, then. Out of 'anybody else', who would be your personal choice for the job?
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Earlster posted:How do you think Corbyn will go over Europe? By train, he likes trains.
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serious gaylord posted:I'm not sure if you know this, but you don't have to reply to every single one of his posts and anything mentioning him.
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lfield posted:So you're just being contrarian, then. Out of 'anybody else', who would be your personal choice for the job? My opinion seems to be contrary to yours. Given Corbyn's lack of popularity with the general public i'm not sure if that makes me the contrarian, or you.
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Malcolm XML posted:and the crux of yours is that we should just take corbyn's 2020 victory as a given since he has 400000 labour members and a single by-election victory! Multiple people have specifically clarified that that isn't what they're saying. Jesus Christ can you read?
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Dec 28, 2015 23:34
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OwlFancier posted:By train, he likes trains. And bicycles 
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Malcolm XML posted:and the crux of yours is that we should just take corbyn's 2020 victory as a given since he has 400000 labour members and a single by-election victory! nothing he's doing gives me faith that these aren't one off consequences of the labour leadership election and a split, polarizing opposition It's really not though. It's that it's POSSIBLE. I've never claimed it's a guarantee I've claimed its a possible avenue to victory. People basically asserting he;s lost 4 years before he has a chance to win however is a loving brilliant way of making that a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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thespaceinvader posted:It's really not though. It's that it's POSSIBLE. I've never claimed it's a guarantee I've claimed its a possible avenue to victory. Do you think it's possible to win a general election simply by saying it will happen?
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Pissflaps posted:My opinion seems to be contrary to yours. Given Corbyn's lack of population with the general public i'm not sure if that makes me the contrarian, or you. Aww you won't say who you like because you're scared the big mean UKMT will make fun of you for it.
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Pissflaps posted:And bicycles Why do you like posting that picture so much?
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Pissflaps posted:My opinion seems to be contrary to yours. Given Corbyn's lack of popularity with the general public i'm not sure if that makes me the contrarian, or you. thespaceinvader posted:People basically asserting he;s lost 4 years before he has a chance to win however is a loving brilliant way of making that a self-fulfilling prophecy. quit bitching and moaning you dummy
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lfield posted:Aww you won't say who you like because you're scared the big mean UKMT will make fun of you for it. I've been on the receiving end of abuse and unkind words from this thread for some time now. I will not allow it to impinge upon my principles.
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OwlFancier posted:Why do you like posting that picture so much? Because he looks like somebody gave Steptoe a Halfords voucher.
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Pissflaps posted:I've been on the receiving end of abuse and unkind words from this thread for some time now. I will not allow it to impinge upon my principles. "... And if you don't like them, I have others."
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All Corbyn has to do is hop on his time-travelling bicycle & prove he can win the 2020 election by actually winning it. Until he does that I'd rather watch another Blairite cruise to a nice, safe loss.
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Pissflaps posted:Do you think it's possible to win a general election simply by saying it will happen? How is this relevant to anything?
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Pissflaps posted:I've been on the receiving end of abuse and unkind words from this thread for some time now. I will not allow it to impinge upon my principles. I admire your principles of sticking with a unnamed theoretical candidate. It shows great courage.
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Pissflaps posted:I've been on the receiving end of abuse and unkind words from this thread for some time now. I will not allow it to impinge upon my principles. I don't call you a dickhead because I just get off on being nasty to people. You never engage with people in a constructive way. You just pick and pick without ever committing yourself to anything that can serve as a basis for further discussion.
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thespaceinvader posted:How is this relevant to anything? Because you said that people insisting he won't win the next general election will cause it to become a self fulfilling prophecy - if the inverse is not true then how can your statement be any more accurate?
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the line in the sand is where labour becomes something other than the party of "at least we're not quite the tories, eh"
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Pissflaps posted:I've been on the receiving end of abuse and unkind words from this thread for some time now. I will not allow it to impinge upon my principles. You don't have principles.
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Pissflaps posted:Because he looks like somebody gave Steptoe a Halfords voucher. Well he is an old man, kind of hard to avoid looking like one unless you're filthy rich.
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Pissflaps posted:Because you said that people insisting he won't win the next general election will cause it to become a self fulfilling prophecy - if the inverse is not true then how can your statement be any more accurate? The active undermining of a party's leader in defiance of the will of its membership is actively harmful to the party's public image. The absence of that, while not guaranteeing victory, can not harm its chances.
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It's 4 years before the next general. We still have a referendum on Europe to slog through where the current governing party is split between shooting themselves in the foot and aiming at their foot but faking pulling the trigger. There's a significant chunk of Scotland that wants to leave the union. The current government is trying to pump up a housing bubble to inflate economy figures. The weather is getting significantly shittier and Leicester are within spitting distance of the Champions League. Anything can happen.
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Oberleutnant posted:Perhaps people would engage with you in a more respectful and friendly way if you granted them the same clarity and specificity in your replies and opinions that you expect of them. I don't mind if you call me a dickhead. Nor am I interested in earning your respect or friendship. You seem to lash out at a lot of posters you disagree with. It's just your way. I'd rather talk about the issues facing the UK today rather than me.
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Pissflaps posted:I don't mind if you call me a dickhead. Nor am I interested in earning your respect or friendship. You seem to lash out at a lot of posters you disagree with. It's just your way. Also, I only lash out at people when they're acting like loving idiots.
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Pissflaps posted:I've been on the receiving end of abuse and unkind words from this thread for some time now. I will not allow it to impinge upon my principles. Reminds me of Corbyn Anyway a question for you, since you literally said you're on the "Anyone but Corbyn" bandwagon - presumably this means you'd rather have McDonnell or Abbott as leader then? I mean it seems a bit odd that out of some 200 labour MPs, pissflaps' least favourite just happened to become leader vvv oh sorry I must have missed him ruling them out (I did skim a bit) Microplastics fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Dec 28, 2015 |
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