MeLKoR posted:

Gilganixon posted:

Everything has to end one day. There will be new, even more autistic scam cults. Someone will kickstart something to do with trains and the cycle will start again.

Blazing Ownager posted:

Oh if only they had made the game as described at the end of the Kickstarter and stopped selling JPG ships this could have been something.

All I wanted was a loving multiplayer bridge commander, pretty much. That's it. You'd think blending FPS ship movement with a space environment outside wouldn't be that hard. It doesn't have to be perfect, I don't have to have a SEAMLESS EXPERIENCE. I'm OK teleporting out of a ship to walk around a FPS base or something.

Basically I just wanted a Privateer with first person elements and mutlicrew multiplayer. That's it. How did they cock that up?

Tujague posted:

That's seriously Derek Smart posting on SA? Is his account here part of the settlement from the dozens of ferocious lawsuits he was going to file? Is GBS the place on the internet he can enjoy the highest amount of both relevance and respect?

Romes128 posted:

Why is there a gbs thread? You're giving sandi too much work to do when there's important auditions to go on

Romes128 posted:

Why is there a gbs thread? You're giving sandi too much work to do when there's important auditions to go on

Romes128 posted:

Why is there a gbs thread? You're giving sandi too much work to do when there's important auditions to go on

Gilganixon posted:

the only thing harder to believe than Derek Smart returning to lead the Goons on a glorious crusade to ruin everything is that Games might generate a good thread. GBS needs its own thread otherwise no one will believe this is happening.

Berious posted:

Fart Shitizen mocking is returning home

Romes128 posted:

Derek can't even lead 6 people to play his game at the same time

Berious posted:

Fart Shitizen mocking is returning home

Microwaves Mom posted:

Does that make Derek Smart Ishmael?

Mange Mite posted:

Derek smart is queequeg

Acquilae posted:

sandi's gotta pad her imdb profile to help her finally get that big hollywood break

Microwaves Mom posted:

Does that make Derek Smart Ishmael?

Gilganixon posted:

Everything has to end one day. There will be new, even more autistic scam cults. Someone will kickstart something to do with trains and the cycle will start again.

Blazing Ownager posted:

I miss when semi-talented musicians used to be on SA, we totally need a ballad of Smart and Roberts

Blazing Ownager posted:

Oh if only they had made the game as described at the end of the Kickstarter and stopped selling JPG ships this could have been something.

All I wanted was a loving multiplayer bridge commander, pretty much. That's it. You'd think blending FPS ship movement with a space environment outside wouldn't be that hard. It doesn't have to be perfect, I don't have to have a SEAMLESS EXPERIENCE. I'm OK teleporting out of a ship to walk around a FPS base or something.

Basically I just wanted a Privateer with first person elements and mutlicrew multiplayer. That's it. How did they cock that up?

WebDog posted:

Train sims are staggeringly profitable already. Train Sim 2016 comes with $3000 of DLC (about $4500 without the discounts).

CharlestonJew posted:

I still can't believe Derek Smart is posting on SA. Like granted half of his posts seem to be him quoting other people who 100% agree with him and saying "I already said that months ago YOU loving IDIOT WHY DON'T YOU READ THE THREAD DIPSHIT YOU loving CRETIN" but still

Dapper Dan posted:

literal rubes who own farms fall for star citizen

WebDog posted:

Weren't they claimed by EVE? I recall at least one promising musician completely wrecked his career on that game. He made this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vfv1QtZDirY

kikkelivelho posted:

You're still getting that game. The additional funding simply means that the scope of the project has grown larger in size. The game is going to be bigger and prettier than it ever would have been with the original funds. The increased budget also allows Chris to work with amazing hollywood actors, who bring the story truly alive. Imagine being INSIDE a Wing Commander movie, not just watching it. You're there, in the world, with Gary Oldman and Mark Hamil.

From the beginning Chris has spoken of a seamless experience and that's also what the community wants. Star Citizen 2.0 clearly demonstrates that this experience is not only possible, but happening right now.

Dapper Dan posted:

literal rubes who own farms fall for star citizen

Gilganixon posted:

Scope creep ruins everything. Even if Star Citizen started out with honourable intentions the insane promises made to justify the huge amount of money that came pouring in from "investors" brings it pretty firmly into scam territory. They have to keep promising new features to get more money rolling in to pay for the resources needed to make the new features when they should have settled for half a mil to make a good space game.

E: also gently caress who the hell wants to hang out with Mark Hamil. pretty sure Mark Hamil doesn't want to hang out with Mark Hamil

WebDog posted:

Sandi Gardiner
Deciding that a Marine Biology degree wasn't going to lead to a thrilling career Sandi decides that little Adelaide, South Australia is too small for her ambitions so heads off to L.A to try to achieve her dream of being a movie star. She hops back and forth between L.A and Sydney, mostly working as a model while stuffing her C.V with questionable bit-parts-in-crowd in notable films and TV shows. All of which appear and reappear over the years.

She meets Chris by allegedly looking for work as an intern, flipping open a studio directory and finding "Ascendant" at the top of the list.
If anything he gives her a chance to remain longer in America and to keep reaching for that brass ring. It's not really known what she did during the first decade of the 2000's as Ascendant burned, her only "major" film was a indie horror production that boasted that no actors had their SAG accreditation, did their own driving and the entire film was improvised on location.

Jump to 2011 and she's somehow pulled a stunt that would make Cersi Lannister proud. Now the VP of marketing for Chris Robert's new game while denying that she's not the wife of the CEO and offering very little in the way of actual marketing qualifications.

However unlike most VP's her role doesn't consist of working behind the scenes managing PR, but starring in online videos which pad her imdb profile.
It's also alleged that she was the reason why the company moved to L.A at a great cost as it puts her in closer range to audition for roles and even use the company's offices as a place to hold script readings for films that may or not be funded with the company's dimes.

This no-name actress soon found herself pressing shoulders against bigger names like Gary Oldman and Gillian Anderson while sharing top billing among a very expensive looking cast. Somehow this will be her breakout role into the industry.

Even more bizarre was the allegations that the VP of marketing also took part in deciding who got hired or fired, judging people based purely on their looks with the infamous accusation that a woman wasn't hired as it looked like she didn't groom down there along with suspicions of anyone who is black, something she tried to plaster over by awkwardly dragging in one poor fellow into a stream.

She really hit the spotlight after the Escapist magazine prompted fears that her hard working reputation would be destroyed in an instant and after scary lawsuits failed to emerge in her defence plead through some crocodile tears for people to stop being meanies at a live event.

It is largely suspected that Sandi is wearing the pants in the relationship of the company and does her best to whip people into shape "for the greater good" while sending morale plummeting as the company engages in hunting down the mole who is destroying her reputation.

Kickstart my heart
After pissing off Kevin Costner and earning the right to never work in Hollywood again, the motley crew at Ascendant have no choice but to sell off the company to get rid of the $8 million court ordered debt.

By then games development was lightyears ahead of when it was in 2003 and seeing how fantastic CryEngine looked Roberts and Ortwin gathered some cash, formed a ton of subsidiary companies to funnel it through, gave each other $100 of shares and knocked on the door of CryTek - then on the verge of going insolvent and barely able to pay wages.

The result was a re-visioning of Wing Commander, packaged via a glossy video of a space carrier getting attacked. EA declined, likely on the fact that Roberts wanted complete control.
Not to be undaunted Roberts Space Industries took to the skies of Kickstarter and jolted the wallets of nostalgic Wing Commander fans who saw through rose tinted glasses the promised land of PC gaming...all for $6 million...and more!

However this became a case study of what not to do, which is over promise.
Starting with realistic things like regular updates, early access and new ships soon started shifting into the absurd like tablet apps, building new studios for the dev team and vague "enhancements" and casually dropped complex game elements like "transport systems", "ground battles" "pets" "enhanced NPC AI" without any real indication to how they would fit - let alone any consideration to how long it would take to develop.

The goal was to create several separate game modules that all would come together as a fantastic everything game. However the challenges of trying to force a FPS game engine to operate as a fully fledged flight simulator, even when you have the key devs of the engine, soon proved challenging and 2014 spun past faster than a glitching ship.

kikkelivelho posted:

Under normal circumstances scope creep would be concerning, yes. Star Citizen however isn't limited by publisher set deadlines or a limited budget. Features are only added when after they've already been funded. This means that despite the feature set growing larger, development always stays within budget.

I also doubt your knowledge of game development if you think half million dollars is enough money to create a seamless space MMO.

Microwaves Mom posted:

I didn't intend for this thread to make it more than a day in 2016 but here we are! Anyways holy cow WebDog knows too much!

I will say that queeqaag seems like a good role for Derek Smart. The coffin -> lifeboat conversion seems appropriate for that tale.

As for Lesnick being Ishmael. I'm not sure, Lesnick believes in Croberts more than croberts does at this point I'm pretty sure. For all the crap he throws out I'm 100% convinced that Lesnick is like the #1 cultist in the house of croberts. He'll be there chanting praises as it goes down in flames.

Mange Mite posted:

Lesnick is the boat

The French Army! posted:

Whatever garbage they do give the backers in the end won't matter because these cultists will come crawling back like the beat puppies they are and loudly proclaim that they got everything they paid for and more.

Microwaves Mom posted:

well if he snaps he might end up being the whale that takes down ol croberts with him.

waitwhatno posted:

100 mil is probably enough to get you elected POTUS or pay the education budget of some hosed up African country for a decade ... or you can spend it all on coke

kikkelivelho posted:

You're probably joking but lets be clear: I seriously doubt Chris is using backer funds for his personal expenses, and even if he did, I doubt it would affect their cash reserves in any meaningful way. Yeah, people in the movie business use drugs, but how much do you think Chris is using to make the claim that it's negatively affecting the overall budget of the game?

I wouldn't be surprised if Chris had more than enough money from his previous works to sustain a wealthy lifestyle for the rest of his. These kinds of personal attacks just make your point look weak.