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That Reed/Doom fight was pretty swell. Reed (at least in the comics I've read) doesn't use his actual powers enough and just sciences opponents to win, so I enjoyed him just going nuts and attacking Doom like a boa constrictor. I don't know what I expected out of the ending but ultimately I was kind of disappointed with Molecule Man just going "oh okay" BOOOM. I guess all those tie-ins with unsatisfying endings where Battleworld just explodes out of nowhere were actually just sticking with the main event all along. The end was sweet though, with the FF sticking around (where are they again?) to recreate the multiverse although I kind of don't understand why they sent Johnny and Ben off to their new The only part I straight up didn't like/didn't get: So T'Challa warps to the new universe, goes "it worked", indicating that he's the same one from the previous universe, and then immediately just knows what's going on in New Wakanda with their space program. For one thing, it's weird that he just knows the space program's gonna happen then calls his shot like Babe Ruth saying they're going to space as a rocket launches. For another, for a guy who just survived the death of a world (after the death of his own world), you'd think there'd be a stronger reaction out of the guy. I mean, there's stoic and there's "poo poo T'Challa are you a loving robot? Get excited." At least everybody else's epilogue takes place after the timeskip, where they'd either have time to acclimate to the new universe or you could just explain away them not remembering Battleworld at all. Dunbar posted:Old Man Logan isn't from 616 or 1610 is he? I think his solo book would have to mean stuff other than the original Prime Earth and Ultimate Universe survived. Well yeah, there's straight up a Weirdworld book right now showing that the Weirdworld from Battleworld has simply relocated to 616. TwoPair fucked around with this message at 01:19 on Jan 14, 2016 |
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Dunbar posted:Old Man Logan isn't from 616 or 1610 is he? I think his solo book would have to mean stuff other than the original Prime Earth and Ultimate Universe survived. We already know that's the case, because Contest of Champions exists, which features characters from a couple of alternate Earths.
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TwoPair posted:That Reed/Doom fight was pretty swell. Reed (at least in the comics I've read) doesn't use his actual powers enough and just sciences opponents to win, so I enjoyed him just going nuts and attacking Doom like a boa constrictor. I don't know what I expected out of the ending but ultimately I was kind of disappointed with Molecule Man just going "oh okay" BOOOM. I guess all those tie-ins with unsatisfying endings where Battleworld just explodes out of nowhere were actually just sticking with the main event all along. The end was sweet though, with the FF sticking around (where are they again?) to recreate the multiverse although I kind of don't understand why they sent Johnny and Ben off to their new I'll have to go back and read NA#1, but I'm pretty sure nothing was different from then. The launch was always the intent of that scene, they were just interrupted by the incursion and missed it.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:I'll have to go back and read NA#1, but I'm pretty sure nothing was different from then. The launch was always the intent of that scene, they were just interrupted by the incursion and missed it. Yeah I thought that might be the case and I too don't have NA 1 handy, but it still seems weird for him to survive his imminent demise, then find those kids and launch right back in to his speech. (Also if he was gonna launch a spaceship in NA#1, you'd think he'd still have done it at literally any point before Time Ran Out. I guess T'Challa likes to be theatrical and after the incursion ruined the first launch he just decided "gently caress this is ruined SCRAP THE WHOLE PROGRAM") TwoPair fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Jan 14, 2016 |
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There's also the possibility it was the reality gem he used. In which case he just added in the space launch because this battleworld thing sucks I just wanna go to space. Also, he does not correct the guy who calls him king. In NA#1 he says, "This isn't necropolis. To the living I'm only the black panther. In SW#9 he just go's, "Yup that's me I'm the king." He just wanted to go into space and be king again.
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Loved it. Favorite Panel was the one of BP standing there with the Infinity Gauntlet and one of the gems is broken. Shows he was punching above his weight with the loving Infinity Gauntlet! And I was wright, the Sue and kids that Doom had were the ones from the Raft!
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Great ending, glad it's finally here. What a perfect send off to Hickman's FF saga (which I will be reading in its entirety ASAP). This event has been awesome from start to finish and I think Marvel should chill out on events for a long while, but obviously that's not happening. I think the sole reason for the delays was just due to that one page with Reed's and Doom's faces blended together in alternating little squares. Can't imagine how long it'd take to draw something like that. Esad Ribic is so talented.
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Caper posted:Great ending, glad it's finally here. What a perfect send off to Hickman's FF saga (which I will be reading in its entirety ASAP). This event has been awesome from start to finish and I think Marvel should chill out on events for a long while, but obviously that's not happening. I was looking at that page a good couple of minutes in awe
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Would he have actually drawn the squares like that, I assumed he would have drawn the full faces as separate pages and did the square interlocking overlap in photoshop or something?
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I wish I was there when he read that page in Hickman's script.
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Let's not sleep on the cover, which is "Alex Ross draws Marvel's most iconic panels". Also, I'm no expert on coloring but Ive Svorcina seems like a rare talent. His use of light is incredible. zoux fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Jan 14, 2016 |
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Dacap posted:Would he have actually drawn the squares like that, I assumed he would have drawn the full faces as separate pages and did the square interlocking overlap in photoshop or something? That's exactly what I think he did, but to plan it all out and make such a beautiful final product must've been quite an undertaking
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Now that Secret Wars is over I'm still not really sure why Cyclops was even there.
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ImpAtom posted:Now that Secret Wars is over I'm still not really sure why Cyclops was even there. To job to Doom.
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No one is sure why Cyclops is, either.
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I really enjoyed the gently caress out of that ending. What a wonderful job Hickman did weaving this all together. The art is also fantastic I wish they would release this in an 11' by 17' hardcover. I would drop all the money for that.
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While I loved the whole drat thing, I think my favorite part of Secret Wars is the explanation for how Miles Morales gets transplanted into the 616 universe. Because he gave the Molecule Man a cheeseburger.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:While I loved the whole drat thing, I think my favorite part of Secret Wars is the explanation for how Miles Morales gets transplanted into the 616 universe. People were like, Hickman better have a drat good reason for why all the Miles supporting characters got sent over. And he did. Also, I just checked and all the Hickman stuff going back to F4 #570 through SW #9 is 149 issues.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:While I loved the whole drat thing, I think my favorite part of Secret Wars is the explanation for how Miles Morales gets transplanted into the 616 universe. The cheeseburger got him his mom back 
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That was awesome. Especially because he also threw in resurrecting his dead mom. Dude must've been really starving.
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Caper posted:That was awesome. Especially because he also threw in resurrecting his dead mom. Dude must've been really starving. First thing Owen Reese asks of everyone who comes to visit him is "Hey, didja bring me some snacks?" And Miles Morales is the only character in the entire story who does. That's worth a Mom-Resurrection, I'd say.
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zoux posted:People were like, Hickman better have a drat good reason for why all the Miles supporting characters got sent over. And he did. Do you include his ultimates stuff that sets up The Maker, I understand putting it off, but also I would understand putting it on.
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And SHIELD.
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zoux posted:Satisfied? Pretty loving satisfied. Couldn't have done it better. 
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Franklin didn't bring the Ultimate universe back because he saw what they did to Wanda and Pietro and was all "Grossssss!"
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So...what happened to Cyclops? The "tragic act" they mention in All-New X-Men is when he killed Professor X, right? But wasn't that an accident? I haven't been reading too long but I don't know why he's the most hated and feared mutant out there
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trashbuilder posted:Do you include his ultimates stuff that sets up The Maker, I understand putting it off, but also I would understand putting it on. Eh did the Maker really do any thing of consequence? I got the sense he was just around so he could be brought into 616 (which was genius)
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Apparently he tried to suicide bomb the inhumans.
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Caper posted:So...what happened to Cyclops? The "tragic act" they mention in All-New X-Men is when he killed Professor X, right? But wasn't that an accident? I haven't been reading too long but I don't know why he's the most hated and feared mutant out there What, again?
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SynthOrange posted:Apparently he tried to suicide bomb the inhumans. Haha. Smh Scott. Smh. Call me a mutant terrorist? I'll show em...
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SynthOrange posted:Apparently he tried to suicide bomb the inhumans. Yeah, we haven't seen whatever the Horrible Thing Cyclops Did was yet, but it was directed against the Inhumans and it musta been pretty bad.
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Caper posted:So...what happened to Cyclops? The "tragic act" they mention in All-New X-Men is when he killed Professor X, right? But wasn't that an accident? I haven't been reading too long but I don't know why he's the most hated and feared mutant out there He attacked Attilan after the Terrigan mists started to kill the mutants. I figure Inhumans became popular and accepted and Scott trying to kill them pissed people off.
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Gavok posted:Jonathan Hickman spent years building up to a comic book event that could be solved via offering Hostess Cupcakes and Twinkies. I felt the moral of the story was to always walk around with a hamburger tucked in your underwear.
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Lurdiak posted:What, again? At the beginning of each new issue of All-New X-Men they say the adult Cyclops "committed a terrible act and now mutants are more hated and feared than ever." I didn't know what that act was but as others have pointed out, dude's gone fully batshit. Does anyone know where I should start reading if I want to get caught up on the whole Terrigen Mists killing Mutants thing? Why aren't people mad at Black Bolt for releasing it? Again, I don't really know the story details and I want to catch up on stuff that happened right before SW
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There's nothing really to read. It happened in the eight month time skip.
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Think they'll do a time skip mini at some point? That or straight up have issues that in the future take place in that time period.
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Blockhouse posted:There's nothing really to read. It happened in the eight month time skip. The Cyclops thing yeah but didn't the Terrigen Mists Cloud get released before the Incursion?
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SynthOrange posted:Apparently he tried to suicide bomb the inhumans. I loving love Cyclops. Next time my friend, next time.
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Caper posted:The Cyclops thing yeah but didn't the Terrigen Mists Cloud get released before the Incursion?
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