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protons are for retards "buhh duhhh i have the same amount of charge as an electron but opposite and like a way bigger mass"
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Jan 19, 2016 09:53
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when are we going to invent neutronium
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Jan 19, 2016 10:04
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Beast of Bourbon posted:when are we going to invent neutronium the universe has a patent on it, and that patent is crushing death
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Jan 19, 2016 11:22
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Sagebrush posted:the people who say "current kills, not voltage" are people who don't understand ohm's law And why everywhere I used to work, I wore an Arc-Flash suit. Fake edit: At noisebridge fixing their poo poo
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Jan 19, 2016 12:19
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Sagebrush posted:the people who say "current kills, not voltage" are people who don't understand ohm's law nah, small currents will gently caress with the heart and kill you high voltage will cause physical damage, but won't necessarily be fatal if the path to ground doesn't go through the heart
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Jan 19, 2016 16:59
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the worst are the people who think getting shocked a lot will eventually make you immune
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Jan 19, 2016 17:01
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ayn rand hand job posted:nah, small currents will gently caress with the heart and kill you and here is someone who doesn't think about the relationship between voltage, current, and skin resistance
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Jan 19, 2016 19:29
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Sagebrush posted:and here is someone who doesn't think about the relationship between voltage, current, and skin resistance i am paid to show the engineers in my lab pictures of charred and burned hands resulting from electrical accidents and how to work with exposed conductors im also paid to show them arc flash and make sure that all of our electrical cabinets are kept clear of hazards also who touched the poop on the heat press quote:[Noisebridge-discuss] Heat press not functional, repair help needed. OJ MIST 2 THE DICK fucked around with this message at 21:00 on Jan 19, 2016 |
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Jan 19, 2016 20:58
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I'm a maker.
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Jan 19, 2016 23:24
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several members of sietch noisebridge have been drinking the water of life without being prepared so we've had a few deaths, I understand that we're doocratic and all that, but I had been saving a baby sandworm for a project this weekend and when I came in, someone had already drowned it. most un-excellent.
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Jan 20, 2016 00:38
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ayn rand hand job posted:i am paid to show the engineers in my lab pictures of charred and burned hands resulting from electrical accidents and how to work with exposed conductors what they're trying to get at is that a voltage high enough to pass a deadly current through your heart has to exist people who say "current kills, not voltage" are forgetting that; a lead acid battery can source current hundreds or thousands of times greater than that which will kill you but 12 volts isn't going to drive a deadly current through your body
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Jan 20, 2016 02:18
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makers are basically people that couldn't get a degree to be a real engineer, so they like to play pretend with equipment they know nothing about
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Jan 20, 2016 02:31
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Apocadall posted:makers are basically people that couldn't get a degree to be a real engineer, so they like to play pretend with equipment they know nothing about people who call themselves makers are actually a couple steps below actual hobbyists because they need everything spoonfed to them in the forms of arduino-centric tutorials edit: I looked into the makerspace in my city a couple years ago before I realized how poo poo makers are and the list of equipment was lower in quality and variety than the poo poo I have at home - except for the laser engraver that they did useless poo poo with like etching logos into hamburger patties BattleMaster fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Jan 20, 2016 |
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Jan 20, 2016 02:37
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BattleMaster posted:people who call themselves makers are actually a couple steps below actual hobbyists because they need everything spoonfed to them in the forms of arduino-centric tutorials oh i thought they were the ones who look down on tutorials
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Jan 20, 2016 02:39
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Jerry Cotton posted:oh i thought they were the ones who look down on tutorials I actually don't know the proper definitions but I blame hackers/makers for hackaday going from an interesting site to a non-stop feed of "holy poo poo this guy figured out how to blink two LEDs with an arduino" a couple years ago
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Jan 20, 2016 02:42
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BattleMaster posted:what they're trying to get at is that a voltage high enough to pass a deadly current through your heart has to exist no poo poo, you can die from like 60 volts if you grab an exposed conductor and exposed return with wet hands. the current will take a path across your heart and kill you as i said, the major issue is the positioning, not the voltage the human body isn't ohmic, and you can make a few general approximations that will give you a rough estimate, but "higher voltages mean higher currents" doesn't do as much for surviving an incident than preventing the current from pathing over the heart OJ MIST 2 THE DICK fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Jan 20, 2016 |
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Jan 20, 2016 02:51
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ayn rand hand job posted:nah, small currents will gently caress with the heart and kill you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDf2nhfxVzg
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Jan 20, 2016 02:53
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this dude would fit in at noisebridge
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Jan 20, 2016 02:56
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ayn rand hand job posted:no poo poo, you can die from like 60 volts if you grab an exposed conductor and exposed return with wet hands. the current will take a path across your heart and kill you no one is arguing otherwise we're just criticizing the simplistic and wrong "current kills, not voltage" line that people repeat
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Jan 20, 2016 02:57
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electricity doesn't kill people. nerds kill people.
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Jan 20, 2016 02:59
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BattleMaster posted:I actually don't know the proper definitions but I blame hackers/makers for hackaday going from an interesting site to a non-stop feed of "holy poo poo this guy figured out how to blink two LEDs with an arduino" a couple years ago Bad news: everything including web sites will change over time. It's probably changed again/more since two years ago on top of that. It's a waste of time to pine/grudge/gripe Alternately: no one gives a poo poo what you thought of some web site two years ago
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Jan 20, 2016 03:22
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Mister Sinewave posted:Bad news: everything including web sites will change over time. It's probably changed again/more since two years ago on top of that. It's a waste of time to pine/grudge/gripe okay
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Jan 20, 2016 03:29
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Also, if you don't think that programming a microcontroller to blink a couple LED's is cool you are way too jaded about just how loving magical transistors are.
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Jan 20, 2016 03:38
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osirisisdead posted:Also, if you don't think that programming a microcontroller to blink a couple LED's is cool you are way too jaded about just how loving magical transistors are. or an electrical engineer
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Jan 20, 2016 03:40
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additionally, im gay
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Jan 20, 2016 03:44
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ayn rand hand job posted:or an electrical engineer Engineers always think they know a whole hell of a lot more than they do, though.
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Jan 20, 2016 03:53
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osirisisdead posted:Also, if you don't think that programming a microcontroller to blink a couple LED's is cool you are way too jaded about just how loving magical transistors are. i don't think that writing "hello world" in python is amazing despite the miracles of engineering that brought us to this point
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Jan 20, 2016 04:00
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You lack perspective, and transistors were invented by physicists, whom are not engineers.
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Jan 20, 2016 04:02
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osirisisdead posted:You lack perspective, and transistors were invented by physicists, whom are not engineers. ok so i'm only supposed to marvel at triumphs of physics, not engineering? anyways, just for you: code:
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Jan 20, 2016 04:04
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If you don't ignore context and take the miracle that we're having a psudonymous conversation via the most complex interconnected machine ever built by man, but Engineers are really bad at context and subtext. That's how the Kings constantly trick them into building murder machines.
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Jan 20, 2016 04:08
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CommunistPancake posted:ok so i'm only supposed to marvel at triumphs of physics, not engineering? whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooa
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Jan 20, 2016 04:09
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osirisisdead posted:If you don't ignore context and take the miracle that we're having a psudonymous conversation via the most complex interconnected machine ever built by man, but Engineers are really bad at context and subtext. That's how the Kings constantly trick them into building murder machines. maybe they just really like making murder machines. i know i do i'm a bit of a hobbyist you see
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Jan 20, 2016 04:09
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yeah I've met way too many ex-navy EE's who wouldn't blush at any lethal application
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Jan 20, 2016 04:13
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ayn rand hand job posted:the human body isn't ohmic
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Jan 20, 2016 04:15
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osirisisdead posted:You lack perspective, and transistors were invented by physicists, whom are not engineers. to be honest, the line between physicists and engineers is really goddamn blurry at that point
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osirisisdead posted:If you don't ignore context and take the miracle that we're having a psudonymous conversation via the most complex interconnected machine ever built by man, but Engineers are really bad at context and subtext. That's how the Kings constantly trick them into building murder machines. yeah, that's pretty cool. but i don't open up my browser and marvel at the miracle that is the internet. i don't read blog posts where people say "hey, this internet we're on? isn't it fantastic???" i don't watch people plug lights into walls and marvel at how amazing it is that we have electricity. and if i see someone make an arduino blink two leds, i'm not amazed that it exists. maybe if i was a time traveler. and i'm not even an engineer in the "we need a cooler name for programmers" way, dunno why you think i am
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CommunistPancake posted:and i'm not even an engineer in the "we need a cooler name for programmers" way, dunno why you think i am perhaps you're just an rear end in a top hat. it's easy to confuse the two
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Jan 20, 2016 04:18
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Well, I'm the kind of person that rode my bike to work this morning and took a nice look at the pretty colors in the sunrise and was amazed that that existed, too, because I don't take existing for granted. You don't have to stare slackjawed and unmoving to marvel at things. Wonder is an emotion like anger or sadness. You can feel it a lot without giving in and letting it overwhelm you.
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infernal machines posted:perhaps you're just an rear end in a top hat. it's easy to confuse the two a very real possibility
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