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Mithaldu posted:It's adorable how upset goons get when you imply a game that didn't cater to their expectations may have merit on its own. It doesn't. The only genuinely cool thing the game does is the updating cross-timeline newspaper that chronicles how stuff has changed each time you alter the past. I didn't have anything to really play for a week or two besides it and put way too much time into it, and I don't even recommend it. The biggest disappointment might've been Lightning's sword, which is of course a shotgun/rifle that's too weak to be of use by the time you can afford it.
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Jan 27, 2016 02:17
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Hey, look what Vita port is finally finished: Skullgirls 2nd Encore https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFaWOoIPSzM Some of those loading times, woof. At least they are being honest about it. Also, anyone here unable to access the Vita PlayStation Store? Neither my Vita nor PSTV can get to it. They always hang on "Please wait..." 
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Jan 27, 2016 02:18
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Mithaldu posted:It's adorable how upset goons get when you imply a game that didn't cater to their expectations may have merit on its own. I'm sorry you have such awful taste.
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Jan 27, 2016 02:19
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Doctor Goat posted:The only genuinely cool thing the game does The cool thing it did for me is make an honest-to-god gun action 3d game that does not force the player to try and aim with the tiny little analogue nubs that aren't remotely useful for aiming a gun; while creating set pieces that force the player to think how to approach a battle; and which flows amazingly well when the player groks how it wants to be played and feels like an actual Matrix game. Yechezkel posted:Also, anyone here unable to access the Vita PlayStation Store? Neither my Vita nor PSTV can get to it. They always hang on "Please wait..."
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Jan 27, 2016 02:24
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Mithaldu posted:The cool thing it did for me is make an honest-to-god gun action 3d game that does not force the player to try and aim with the tiny little analogue nubs that aren't remotely useful for aiming a gun; while creating set pieces that force the player to think how to approach a battle; and which flows amazingly well when the player groks how it wants to be played and feels like an actual Matrix game. A bunch of PSP games did that though because the PSP didn't have two analog nubs it only had one. They would use lockon and stuff to get around that. (Some tried to use the face buttons which sucked every time.)
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Jan 27, 2016 02:26
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ImpAtom posted:A bunch of PSP games did that though because the PSP didn't have two analog nubs it only had one. They would use lockon and stuff to get around that. (Some tried to use the face buttons which sucked every time.) Care to name some? The only other PSP shooter i know is Peacewalker.
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Mithaldu posted:Care to name some? The only other PSP shooter i know is Peacewalker. Battlefront, Resistance, the GTA games, SOCOM, Syphon Filter, Dead to Rights, the Pursuit Force games (though they're kinda weird racing/shooters), the Mega Man Legends ports (natch since that is how they were on the PS1), honestly I can only remember a small number of PSP shooters that didn't have lock-on or auto-aim or something similar and they usually sucked. (A lot of the ones that had it sucked too but that's kinda the PSP in a nutshell.) The PSP was a bad system for shooters and almost everyone who worked on it knew that so they tried to figure out other ways to handle it.
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Sakurazuka posted:Chilli Con Carnage I have a friend who swears that this is one of the best PSP games and I have no idea if they're bullshitting or not.
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Jan 27, 2016 02:47
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ImpAtom posted:I have a friend who swears that this is one of the best PSP games and I have no idea if they're bullshitting or not. If you played almost as obscure Mexican PS2 shooter Total Overdose it's basically the same thing only no open world and with the same sort of high score based gameplay as The Club or 50 Cent Blood on the Sand.
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ImpAtom posted:*list* Edit: To be clear, i wasn't talking about the auto-aim as a defining feature, but that the game embraced that fully, and used it as a chance to implement lots of other things to replace the challenge lost by auto-aim. Mithaldu fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Jan 27, 2016 |
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Jan 27, 2016 02:52
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man they got a gently caress of a lot better at making games in between muramasa and dragons crown good news is by the time i finish this hundred monks room i'll be max level whatever that is lets hang out fucked around with this message at 03:15 on Jan 27, 2016 |
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Jan 27, 2016 03:07
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Mithaldu posted:All of those are slow and classical shooters with auto-aim though, not gun *action* games. I don't know if the category really has a name, but in PE3 the game takes care of the aiming for you, but puts a lot of pressure on you regarding movement and engagements. None of the games you mentioned do that. TTB in that case isn't really what you're qualifying at all and in that case you're talking more about just an action game where your weapon happens to be a gun, in which case you can directly compare it to both Crisis Core (whose engine it borrows and which plays very similar) and Final Fantasy Type-0 which even on the PSP does almost everything TTB does but better. (And those are both just Square-Enix games, let alone other action games on the PSP!)
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This is nothing like PE3. The pacing and engagement types are wildly different, even if the engine is the same. It's also much more slow and ponderous. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVlJN_zzftg And while Type-0 looks slightly similar, it's still all close combat, and doesn't have the positioning mechanics derived from the overdive.
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Mithaldu posted:This is nothing like PE3. The pacing and engagement types are wildly different, even if the engine is the same. It's also much more slow and ponderous. You literally posted a video that is 90% cutscene and a tutorial fight for Crisis Core. Also uh, Type-0 specifically has long-ranged combat fighters so I'm not sure what you mean by that. TTB has like 2 areas where you can possess a sniper but even that isn't really about positioning so much as a specific gimmick. Here's the final boss on the hardest mode in TTB: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVHC1qWyblI It's not exactly the best example of a fight (it lacks the heavy body-swapping gimmicks) but it isn't exactly fast blazing action. And honestly TTB's core gameplay isn't bad. It starts to fall apart with the gimmick fights on the damage sponges on higher difficulty levels. I don't think it's the worst game ever made but I certainly think it's pretty unexceptional and the rest of the game drags it down. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Jan 27, 2016 |
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ImpAtom posted:TTB in that case isn't really what you're qualifying at all and in that case you're talking more about just an action game where your weapon happens to be a gun You're not saying the square games are like Pe3, but like what i'm describing, and that my description doesn't match Pe3. In which case all i can say is, you're playing Pe3 wrong. Yes, you can play it slowly and methodically like your typical corridor shooter, but it's meant to played with Aya jumping all over the loving place either herself or between other humans, with walking being mainly used to rough-adjust aim. The whole point of the game is that it is not a single character action game, but a gun tactics game in realtime with acrobatics. I'm talking about stuff like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FMR5bcp3bg&t=57s ImpAtom posted:You literally posted a video that is 90% cutscene and a tutorial fight for Crisis Core. ImpAtom posted:Also uh, Type-0 specifically has long-ranged combat fighters so I'm not sure what you mean by that. ImpAtom posted:It starts to fall apart with the gimmick fights on the damage sponges on higher difficulty levels. ImpAtom posted:I don't think it's the worst game ever made but I certainly think it's pretty unexceptional
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Yechezkel posted:Also, anyone here unable to access the Vita PlayStation Store? Neither my Vita nor PSTV can get to it. They always hang on "Please wait..." Yes, mine is doing exactly that. Good thing I only wanted to download those stupid costumes for Escha or I might be more upset.
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Mithaldu posted:I also looked at other videos and they all look like a slow rpg with slight action elements melded into it. Feel free to post better examples. Wait, you haven't played either game? They're all literally based on the same engine with almost identical dodge-roll mechanics and everything and most of the same team working on them. (Also I have no idea what you mean by there being no Type-0 videos, the game has an HD re-release that has multiple people doing their entire playthroughs.) This isn't exactly high-gimmick gameplay but here's just a character in the game's arena: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiSqAVg7Rac or here's a boss fight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXWeXDmgIS8 or whatever. There's tons of videos on Youtube. Honestly, aside from anything in this conversation, I'd say try to give the HD port of Type-0 a try. If you liked TTB's gameplay I think you'd end up liking T0 despite its own many flaws. Hajime Tabata is the director for it same as Crisis Core and The Third Birthday and the three games share a lot of lineage. It might be something you'd enjoy a fair bit. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 03:58 on Jan 27, 2016 |
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Sakurazuka posted:If you played almost as obscure Mexican PS2 shooter Total Overdose it's basically the same thing only no open world and with the same sort of high score based gameplay as The Club or 50 Cent Blood on the Sand. total overdose ruled
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ImpAtom posted:Wait, you haven't played either game? I put Type-0 on my list of stuff to try while bored, but it lacks many of the bits i like in Pe3. Edit: Also please remember that i mentioned having a single character action game is not the point. If i wanted to play good games in that genre, i'd go straight to Godhand. It's honestly quite fascinating though to learn how you view the game differently than my friends or i, just by what you think is similar to it. Mithaldu fucked around with this message at 04:19 on Jan 27, 2016 |
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Mithaldu posted:If i wanted to play good games You obviously don't, considering you like 3rd Birthday so much.
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Jan 27, 2016 04:18
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the only thing I wanna know about 3rd birthday is, is the titty shower scene really worth it since you have to beat the game 30 times to see it or something, I just wonder if anybody in the world was dedicated to get that without cheating
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kirbysuperstar posted:You obviously don't, considering you like 3rd Birthday so much. you own a vita, what would you even know about games
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voltcatfish posted:the only thing I wanna know about 3rd birthday is, is the titty shower scene really worth it it happens near the end, no unlock necessary, and it's just boring and unnecessary, unless you're a teenager
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Mithaldu posted:you own a vita, what would you even know about games 
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Playing a mediocre shooter to experience an atrocity of a story seems like par for the course around these parts.
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bloodychill posted:Playing a mediocre shooter to experience an atrocity of a story seems like par for the course around these parts.
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i realize that is hard for some goons to understand, but sometimes people like video games
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I admit that I have been known to like video games. Even video games on the Vita. In fact I am playing a video game on the Vita right now.
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Video games are pretty cool when they are fun and good.
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bloodychill posted:Video games are pretty cool when they are fun and good. sometimes people like video games that you don't think are fun or good, because they think they are fun and good.
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Jan 27, 2016 04:40
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this thread is turning real racist for no good reason
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ImpAtom posted:I admit that I have been known to like video games. how do you sleep at night
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this is because people come from a variety of backgrounds, experiences, and places, that help shape their tastes and perception of the world. for instance, 'color' as we perceive it in fact varies wildly from person to person.
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Looper posted:how do you sleep at night Sometimes after playing a Vita game. Endorph posted:this is because people come from a variety of backgrounds, experiences, and places, that help shape their tastes and perception of the world. for instance, 'color' as we perceive it in fact varies wildly from person to person. Nah, people who dislike something I like only do it to piss me off because my taste is objectively correct in all matters, but most especially video games.
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The Colonel posted:it's a shame because i really love everything about it outside of the dungeon crawling, i just can't really get into the combat enough to have fun with it and you encounter enemies so drat frequently Don't like the dungeon crawling. Don't like the combat. Complain about the amount of enemy encounters. You love everything else...what's left?
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