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Gammatron 64 posted:If you look at the TFA artbook, TFA had a lot of crazy poo poo that was cut out of it, like an underwater Death Star and Anakin showing up as a ghost that is half Anakin, half Darth Vader. Sadly I think a lot of TFA's final art design is a bit on the boring side and doesn't have a lot of memorable aliens or ships and things. Those mosquito aliens, though. Those guys rule.
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So Pablo Hidalgo is now saying that Jango Fett was never a Mandalorian. Funny coming from the guy who edited and did extensive work on the Mandalorians a few years ago. Sometimes I wonder what the point of bringing old EU material like the Death Watch to the NEU is when they're just going to keep changing their minds.
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Jan 30, 2016 18:14
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Arcsquad12 posted:So Pablo Hidalgo is now saying that Jango Fett was never a Mandalorian. Funny coming from the guy who edited and did extensive work on the Mandalorians a few years ago. Pablo leans back in his chair, smiles to himself, and thinks "Your move, Traviss."
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Jan 30, 2016 19:03
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Arcsquad12 posted:So Pablo Hidalgo is now saying that Jango Fett was never a Mandalorian. Funny coming from the guy who edited and did extensive work on the Mandalorians a few years ago. There's a line in The Clone Wars, I believe in the very first Mandalorian episode, where Obi-Wan refers to Jango Fett as a Mandalorian. One of the Mandalorians corrects him and calls Jango a "thug with a stolen armor", so this isn't exactly new information.
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Arcsquad12 posted:So Pablo Hidalgo is now saying that Jango Fett was never a Mandalorian. Funny coming from the guy who edited and did extensive work on the Mandalorians a few years ago. Before Jango existed Boba Fett was just a dude who owned Mandalorian armor. Armor which was usually implied to be antique and nearly unique because the Mandalorians didn't really exist anymore. So I'm pretty much on board with this.
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Jan 30, 2016 19:24
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Pablo leans back in his chair, smiles to himself, and thinks "Your move, Traviss."
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Jan 30, 2016 19:31
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Casimir Radon posted:Two days later she rams her bomb-rigged car into his house while muttering "Talifan" under her breath. A shame she wouldn't know to shout out "Adm. Ackbar!!" to signal the death of infidels.
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Jan 30, 2016 21:04
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FishFood posted:Those mosquito aliens, though. Those guys rule. Yeah, I like those guys, too. Chairman Capone posted:I uploaded scans from the Making of Star Wars book, which as far as I know are the only place they've been published (although it seems like minor things might have been changed, as was the case in other supposed 1970s Lucas notes in the book): Thanks, man! Interesting stuff. What's really interesting is George Lucas really did invent midi-chorlians since day one, and C-3PO was rebuilt by a kid at a junk dealer's shop.
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Jan 30, 2016 21:06
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Eh, on Midichloriens and Threepio, that is exactly the kind of stuff Lucas likely added at a later date.
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Jan 30, 2016 21:12
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Chairman Capone posted:I uploaded scans from the Making of Star Wars book, which as far as I know are the only place they've been published (although it seems like minor things might have been changed, as was the case in other supposed 1970s Lucas notes in the book): It's so interesting how much of the prequels are in here (a Chancellor with emergency powers manipulates the Senate into making him Emperor, midi-chlorians, a Jedi purge) and how much of them aren't (the entire idea of the Clone Wars or a wartime emergency in general) and how much is just plain weird (Han's entire backstory). Also stuff that comes up in TFA like female stormtroopers and non-Jedi using lightsabers. 
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Jan 30, 2016 21:28
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I never understood the people who claimed non Jedi couldn't use Lightsabers. Sometimes they would argue they couldn't even turn them on. Apparently they religiously ignore the beginning of Empire?
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remusclaw posted:I never understood the people who claimed non Jedi couldn't use Lightsabers. Sometimes they would argue they couldn't even turn them on. Apparently they religiously ignore the beginning of Empire? There was one book that had a lightsaber that was built without an external switch, that did require telekinesis to turn on...but yeah...that was a special case.
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I think the only time the idea that a non-force user couldn't turn on a lightsaber was in The Crystal Star, everyone's favorite book.
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Casimir Radon posted:I think the only time the idea that a non-force user couldn't turn on a lightsaber was in The Crystal Star, everyone's favorite book. That's actually the one I was referencing! Yeah, they were specifically called out to be specially built to not have external switches, not that all lightsabers needed telekinesis to activate.
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remusclaw posted:I never understood the people who claimed non Jedi couldn't use Lightsabers. Sometimes they would argue they couldn't even turn them on. Apparently they religiously ignore the beginning of Empire? I've seen such people point to that scene as evidence that Han must be secretly Force-sensitive, so yeah. I think the general idea there is that any poor bastard mundane would instantly and inevitably slice their own leg off the instant they were silly enough to fire up a lightsaber, and would deserve it for daring to use a weapon above their station. Lemniscate Blue fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Jan 30, 2016 |
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Jan 30, 2016 22:40
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I always found it funny that Obi-Wan just hands Luke this ridiculously dangerous weapon without telling him what it does, or even makes sure he's not pointing it at anybody before lighting it up.
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ninjahedgehog posted:He was more-or-less the main Star Wars Dark Horse comics protagonist during the prequel years. He was a lot more interesting there as basically the Jedi equivalent of an undercover cop/ That storyline's written by Jon Ostrander, though. He seems obsessed with people falling to the dark side with the best intention, and it sort of kills me, because he's really bad at writing those people.
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ninjahedgehog posted:I always found it funny that Obi-Wan just hands Luke this ridiculously dangerous weapon without telling him what it does, or even makes sure he's not pointing it at anybody before lighting it up. 
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I always just figured that a lightsaber wouldn't do you much good if you didn't have the force. You couldn't deflect blaster bolts and you'd be likely to accidentally cut your own limbs off if you weren't careful.
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Gammatron 64 posted:I always just figured that a lightsaber wouldn't do you much good if you didn't have the force. You couldn't deflect blaster bolts and you'd be likely to accidentally cut your own limbs off if you weren't careful. It'd be excellent to have around as a cutting or breaching tool though.
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Gammatron 64 posted:What's really interesting is George Lucas really did invent midi-chorlians since day one, and C-3PO was rebuilt by a kid at a junk dealer's shop. JW Rinzler actually later explicitly stated on his old Star Wars.com blog that the midichlorian part was added by Lucas in 2007 to convey "what he would have written in 1977".
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jivjov posted:It'd be excellent to have around as a cutting or breaching tool though. This idea shows up in Zahn's Scoundrels book
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Chairman Capone posted:JW Rinzler actually later explicitly stated on his old Star Wars.com blog that the midichlorian part was added by Lucas in 2007 to convey "what he would have written in 1977". Yeah, I enjoyed reading that book, but was pretty sad when it came out that we essentially got "The Making of Star Wars: Special Edition." "The Secret History of Star Wars" was pretty good though.
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Can we bring Traviss back and have her write Death Watch propaganda? Edit: Also, you can't build a lightsaber without the Force. Using one for combat would probably be stupid without it, especially since you're massively unlikely to have been trained in it. But yeah, the reason they're not cutting tools the galaxy over is that you need a Force user to attune the crystal. Keiya fucked around with this message at 01:49 on Jan 31, 2016 |
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Jan 31, 2016 01:45
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blackmongoose posted:This idea shows up in Zahn's Scoundrels book Yeah there's a safecracker who uses a lovely broken lightsaber that barely puts out a footlong beam to break into vaults.
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Pffft hahahahahaha DIsney won't let EA put Force Awakens Characters in Battlefront to avoid breaking canon I'm on a bit of a kick today. So, Palpatine, Boba Fett and Vader teaming up to fight Endor Luke, ANH Leia and Han Solo is totally fine, but you put a guy like Finn in there and suddenly you've crossed a line.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Pffft hahahahahaha Eh, it's more like EA doesn't want to invest time and resources into making new characters when they can just slap new costumes on existing characters and push it out for $50.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Pffft hahahahahaha Or you know Vader Palpatine and Fett showing up on Jakku when they should all canonically be dead.
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Chairman Capone posted:I uploaded scans from the Making of Star Wars book, which as far as I know are the only place they've been published (although it seems like minor things might have been changed, as was the case in other supposed 1970s Lucas notes in the book):
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Of course not, they are saving TFA cast for EA's Star Wars Battlefront 2: Milk It Harder.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Pffft hahahahahaha VideoGamer.com posted:Speaking during an earnings call last night, CFO Blake Jorgensen explained that the publisher had to be careful not to violate the canon of Star Wars by putting characters from The Force Awakens into Battlefront, which is set 30 years earlier during Episodes 5, 6 and 7. This is making me irrationally angry. How hard is it to get the episode numbers right?
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I don't know or care how this is address in EU books or whatever but I always just thought that lightsabers were the traditional weapon of the Jedi, not that you literally had to be a Jedi in order to functionally use one. in much the same way that the Kirpan is a type of knife traditionally wielded by Sikhs but you don't actually need to be a Sikh in order to use one. You won't be particularly good with it in combat if you haven't trained to use it as such, but you can still swing it at people or cut open an animal's belly or whatever.
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Pops Mgee posted:Or you know Vader Palpatine and Fett showing up on Jakku when they should all canonically be dead. or simply the idea of Palpatine running around on a battlefield at all.
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It's a narrative-less shooter game, why are they now using "canon" as an excuse? After putting the Heroes and Villains all over the maps, including Jakku? Gameplay elements have long been defined as acceptable breaks from canonicity in SW games. The global story of Kyle Katarn mattered, not the exact number of Stormtroopers he ragdolled all over the place. Hell, put Poe Dameron in Rogue Squadron 64; there was a freaking Buick Electra and even us continuity-likers could take the joke. ecureuilmatrix fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Jan 31, 2016 |
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Also if they want to be canon they shouldn't be portraying Boba Fett as some sort of badass or even a significant character on the "villain" side. His actual role in the original trilogy is just a minor background side character who looks cool but never really does anything at all. He's not even particularly villainous.
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Earwicker posted:Also if they want to be canon they shouldn't be portraying Boba Fett as some sort of badass or even a significant character on the "villain" side. His actual role in the original trilogy is just a minor background side character who looks cool but never really does anything at all. He's not even particularly villainous. Well, he's no longer a Mandalorian, just a two bit thug who wears the armor and disintegrates people on a whim.
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ecureuilmatrix posted:After putting the Heroes and Villains all over the maps, including Jakku? I thought Jakku didn't get Heroes and Villains? Admittedly I haven't played in over a month (got distracted by other games I got at Christmas time), but did an update enable Heroes in the Jakku maps?
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Earwicker posted:or simply the idea of Palpatine running around on a battlefield at all. I like the idea of Sheeve getting his hands dirty every once in a while, but it probably wouldn't be like how it is in the game. Likely more covert or small scale stuff involving Jedi/Sith stuff. Like when he went to Mandalore to take out Maul and Opress.
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At least these suits apparently care about the franchise. Star Trek had UPN execs wanting random real world pop acts to randomly show up on the ship in Enterprise.
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