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Takoluka posted:The characters in Neptunia are made way more interesting by their localization All that said, i don't mind any of their dub decisions personally and especially not the jokes thing. I'm just saying some of the criticisms can at least be understood, and personally wish there was a little less mental dissonance when playing with japanese voices on. Mithaldu fucked around with this message at 15:51 on Feb 15, 2016 |
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I play neptunia with the voices off
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Feb 15, 2016 15:51
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i don't play neptunia because I haven't turned my vita on in months
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Hivac posted:I play neptunia with the voices off Schrodingers cat posted:Hitman GO launches on February 23rd. Schrodingers cat posted:Attack on Titans gets a new video showcasing new titans that get attacked or do the attacking I'm not sure anymore.
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Endorph posted:i really doubt this It's been 10 years since the last console game so most of the young men with interest in the game (that only become aware of it when the shitfit started) don't know anything about it. voltcatfish posted:i don't play neptunia because I haven't turned my vita on in months The PC is now the Nep-Nep machine. Senran Kagura is jumping ship too. Dehry fucked around with this message at 16:03 on Feb 15, 2016 |
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Feb 15, 2016 15:57
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Mithaldu posted:They made Neptunia into what, if i identify it correctly, is a Valley Girl. ("like", "Whatever", "eeeew") If anything, that's Noire, who really plays that aspect up hard in the voicework nowadays. Neptune is probably the most serious character in the series when she wants to be, she just... generally doesn't.
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Feb 15, 2016 15:58
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Mithaldu posted:I hope the game recognizes you have the voices off and just puts bandaids on everyone's mouth along with an angry scowl, for the entire game. That would be pretty hilarious. Nep V3 Plus Vita edition isn`t bad by Neptunia standards, the only other one I tried being Neptunia 1 on PS3  Mithaldu posted:Is there more about its gameplay known? It looks like it may actually be good. If you haven`t seen this trailer it's a good watch otherwise it seems like a The mobile version is basically a puzzle/strategy version of the Hitman franchise. Kind of reminds me as that MGS game on PSP with the cards and skills. Hidden passages, variable enemy behaviour and equipment, etc... apparently makes replaying missions worthwhile too. I'm tempted to get the android version just to see if it's good because it's only 5$. Mithaldu posted:The main character can transform into an intelligent titan when he gets hurt, so they're showing that off. That's a neat feature. I really like the art style of the game, only watched 1 episode of the animu.
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Dehry posted:It's been 10 years since the last console game so most of the young men with interest in the game (that only become aware of it when the shitfit started) don't know anything about it. Mithaldu posted:As Endorph says, that is a subjective opinion. They made Neptunia into what, if i identify it correctly, is a Valley Girl. ("like", "Whatever", "eeeew") I
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EDIT: Yeah I think the americanized accents work really. The dub's great for what it is. I find it interesting when he mentioned the original developers called him back on for the rereleases and even made changes in the characters cause of localized script. I wonder if that sorta back and forth trade happens with other localization companies? Stuff like the exaggerated PROTEIN/MEAT stuff in Persona for example(that's probably more in the original I guess). EDIT2: There's a huge interview with Falcom about Trails and Ys here. HGH fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Feb 15, 2016 |
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Feb 15, 2016 16:07
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Mithaldu posted:As Endorph says, that is a subjective opinion. They made Neptunia into what, if i identify it correctly, is a Valley Girl. ("like", "Whatever", "eeeew") I can see where they're coming from with J-Npetunia being a bubbly teenager girl and them wanting to get as close to that in english as they could think of. However you can't claim that that kind of speaking is universal in its appeal. As for the japanese dub, personally i actually like a lot of the VAs they have (and they get high quality VAs) and play with japanese voices mainly to hear them, not because i'm opposed to the english dub. Neptune's way of speaking in English is probably the closest you'll get to "genki". As stated before, Noire is pretty valley girl in the dub, and I feel like it plays well with her "I'm so much better than you" attitude. The JP VAs are very good, as I'd expect from them, and if you prefer them, that's great. Just know that 1) it's not going to match the text properly (which is what people hate, because they're dumb), and 2) the first time I switched to JP voices, I discovered everyone sounds like they do *by design* and Neptune's voice is actually more obnoxious and loud in Japanese. Which is fine.
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Feb 15, 2016 16:09
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Hitman Go is a pretty decent puzzle game thats goty material on mobile for some reason
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HGH posted:I find it interesting when he mentioned the original developers called him back on for the rereleases and even made changes in the characters cause of localized script.
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HGH posted:I find it interesting when he mentioned the original developers called him back on for the rereleases and even made changes in the characters cause of localized script. I guarantee there are people who think this is a bold-faced lie. There are people who think there's a conspiracy involving Fire Emblem Fates where NoA is going behind the backs on the original devs to make changes by using contracts to leave them in the dark while they SJW it up.
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Feb 15, 2016 16:13
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I thought NoJ was really hesitant to let intsys put that stuff in the original game to begin with Either that or I'm an idiot that imagines hearing about these things.
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Feb 15, 2016 16:16
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Hivac posted:I thought NoJ was really hesitant to let intsys put that stuff in the original game to begin with IntSys itself was split on the issue.
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Feb 15, 2016 16:17
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there's a conspiracy to not release fire emblem in europe
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Hivac posted:I thought NoJ was really hesitant to let intsys put that stuff in the original game to begin with It's entirely possible, maybe even likely, that NoJ were the ones who told the translators to remove facepetting because they knew the west would react even worse, and they'd already gotten a bit of bad press/reviews from it.
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Endorph posted:full body petting   Endorph posted:that's kind of just how normal human beings talk Schrodingers cat posted:If you haven`t seen this trailer it's a good watch Schrodingers cat posted:That's a neat feature. I really like the art style of the game, only watched 1 episode of the animu.
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Feb 15, 2016 16:30
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gently caress me it's going to have mostly the same god drat diva room poo poo, isn't it
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Feb 15, 2016 16:32
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Mithaldu posted:When i learned english, that use of 'like' as a ... pause(?) that only some people did threw me for a hell of a loop. Like, seriously.
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voltcatfish posted:gently caress me it's going to have mostly the same god drat diva room poo poo, isn't it 
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Mithaldu posted:Speaking of, there's a big post on Miku X up with tons of screenshots, more details of the gameplay, and mention of character poking with different reactions based on what kind of outfit they're wearing: https://www.jp.playstation.com/blog/detail/2398/20160215-mikux.html Is it just me or is that her left hand on her right wrist there? Mithaldu posted:Not entirely sure about this, but if i read that right, miku will decorate her room on her own, using gifts you have her. Also you'll get some hints in advance as to what gifts they'd like now. Also quit posting pics of my house, tia.
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Midjack posted:Is it just me or is that her left hand on her right wrist there?
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Endorph posted:where im from pretty much every girl between ages 12-25 does that. come on down. have a ball. I too am from Earth. It sucks here.
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Endorph posted:the pinky and thumb on her model look pretty similar in length is the issue That looks like she has her palm facing the camera. If not then she's raising her ring finger and her pinky is seriously jacked up.
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Mithaldu posted:
Yeah that's why I'm considering the "mobile try before you buy @ vita price" approach. Actually, just found this review which shows the actual game on Android/iOS. Haha it does look very dystopian at best. I'll give it a read, thanks!
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Schrodingers cat posted:Yeah that's why I'm considering the "mobile try before you buy @ vita price" approach. Actually, just found this review which shows the actual game on Android/iOS.
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Endorph posted:it's not quite the same thing, but in Kingdom Hearts' case a lot of Japanese fans see the English dub as the 'real' VAs, partly because all the Disney characters are American in origin and partly because the Final Mix versions of the games (which is what most JP players are familiar with) have the English dub on by default. Hearing Donald and Goofy and Japanese just... kinda makes me shudder. Although I did grow up hearing them in French and find those great so it sorta depends on your background. I wonder what a KH on Vita would have been like. SE touched almost every gaming console under the sun. EDIT: Oh no more Chinese mobile ripoffs 
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Mithaldu posted:When i learned english, that use of 'like' as a ... pause(?) that only some people did threw me for a hell of a loop. Like, seriously. Also, i'm talking about the exaggerated way she says "whatever" and "ew", which is also specific to a certain type of talking. more people then just valley girls do the like thing, for instance, me ...altho i say whatever all the time too, maybe i'm a valley girl after all...
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Translating characters with specific speech patterns is frigging hard because you have to convey a tone as well as the idea and what exactly conveys that tone depends on how you interpret the character and the tone you're using to translate it. "Valley Girl" means different things to different people and you kind of have to make a call of what will convey that to someone the most. It also runs into disagreements over what the character is supposed to feel like. ("This character is supposed to be adorable" vs "this character is supposed to be annoying and it's funny" or whatever.)
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... turns out Lain was a valley girl all along.
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ImpAtom posted:or whatever sup Neptune
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Endorph posted:where im from pretty much every girl between ages 12-25 does that. come on down. have a ball. only girls and only between those ages? because im pretty sure nearly everyone i know younger than like 50 at this point uses like in that way. its extremely common and a really weird thing for anyone to get worked up about in the year 2016
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mandatory lesbian posted:...altho i say whatever all the time too, maybe i'm a valley girl after all... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27BcgwYXY6s&t=713s vs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFg5DCHzmiM&t=214s ImpAtom posted:Translating characters with specific speech patterns is frigging hard because you have to convey a tone as well as the idea and what exactly conveys that tone depends on how you interpret the character and the tone you're using to translate it. "Valley Girl" means different things to different people and you kind of have to make a call of what will convey that to someone the most. It also runs into disagreements over what the character is supposed to feel like. ("This character is supposed to be adorable" vs "this character is supposed to be annoying and it's funny" or whatever.) Stux posted:a really weird thing for anyone to get worked up about in the year 2016
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ImpAtom posted:Translating characters with specific speech patterns is frigging hard because you have to convey a tone as well as the idea and what exactly conveys that tone depends on how you interpret the character and the tone you're using to translate it. "Valley Girl" means different things to different people and you kind of have to make a call of what will convey that to someone the most. It also runs into disagreements over what the character is supposed to feel like. ("This character is supposed to be adorable" vs "this character is supposed to be annoying and it's funny" or whatever.) Stux posted:only girls and only between those ages? because im pretty sure nearly everyone i know younger than like 50 at this point uses like in that way. its extremely common and a really weird thing for anyone to get worked up about in the year 2016
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Stux posted:only girls and only between those ages? because im pretty sure nearly everyone i know younger than like 50 at this point uses like in that way. its extremely common and a really weird thing for anyone to get worked up about in the year 2016 I even use it when typing, I've noticed recently, which is kind of bizarre if you think about it
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also she probably just feels americanized to you because she was translated and voiced by americans, and they were trying to give her a very modern speech pattern.
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HGH posted:EDIT: Oh no more Chinese mobile ripoffs
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Mithaldu posted:Nobody's getting worked up over it. complain about, whatever, my point is is that none of what youve described is really out of the ordinary for a native english speaker, and listening to that link she doesnt sound anymore americanised or over the top than any other character with an american voice. she sounds like a teenager, but not in any overly stereotyped or forced way. like even over here in the uk we use poo poo like that constantly. its not out of place at all.
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i use like a lot when i type because i learned english from tv also i always got a valley girl impression from the way nonon talked 
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