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Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
Yeah I don't think the Cubs are going to make 97 wins again, let alone crack 100 like these projections are stating. On the other hand, I feel like the NL Central is going to be less dominant in general this season, so devil magic aside I think the Cubs still have a solid shot at taking the division, even if they end up down overall in wins.

Monicro posted:

e: also going back to how people thought they were going to do last year I think "shoot for above-.500, maaayybe sneak into a wildcard" was the pretty universal sentiment
This is what concerns me about players like Bryant & Russell. The expectations game this season is completely different, and it remains to be seen how they do under the pressure of being expected to be dominant, rather than it being a surprise they're dominant.

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FairGame
Jul 24, 2001

Der Kommander

The Cubs are more likely than not to win 90 games and that's probably enough in the 2016 NLC.

I'm largely indifferent to predictions of 95+. A lot has to go right, and it's not fantastical or anything, but that's a REALLY hard thing to do and it likely doesn't matter given that they'd win the division either way.

tadashi
Feb 20, 2006

bewbies posted:

So I don't really understand UZR, but it would seem like you could just break down the field into little squares or hexes (say 1 sqft) and then just determine relative range by how many squares a player regularly covers? I'm sure someone has thought of this but I'm not sure why it wouldn't work.

edit - this could be greatly simplified by players just wearing GPS devices

If MLB keeps freely sharing statcast information, I assume eventually we will get better public information about defense and they'll be able to better assess player skill based on range covered and route efficiency rather than a did they or didn't they catch a ball on this spot metric.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer
Statcast who is the greatest defensive player of all time?

INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR A MEANINGFUL ANSWER.

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal

TheIncredulousHulk posted:

It's entirely possible I'm just imagining the projection systems overrating them but it always seems like they do

Hell, this made me look up as much as I could for the Mariners:

2015:
PECOTA: 87 wins
Actual: 76 wins

2014:
PECOTA: 82 wins
Actual: 87 wins

2013:
PECOTA: 79 wins
Actual: 71 wins

2012:
PECOTA: 72 wins
Actual: 75 wins

2011:
PECOTA: 70 wins
Actual: 67 wins

and lastly:

2010:
PECOTA: 86 wins
Actual: 61 wins

Overall, yeah PECOTA tends to rank the Mariners a lot higher than they should be. 2010 is hilariously bad, though.

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


Prediction systems: as meaningless as Spring Training

God, baseball can't start soon enough.

DLC Inc
Jun 1, 2011

im very excited to see Yu Darvish return and be disgustingly filthy and reclaim the crown of "mindblowingly sick but will only place 3rd in cy young voting forever" from chris sale

also psyched to see a starting rotation of Harv/DeGrom/Thor/Matz/Big Bart. jesus christ and they still have Wheeler. I read an article that said the only team with a better rotation was the Cardinals and I can't process that at all.

FairGame
Jul 24, 2001

Der Kommander

MinibarMatchman posted:

im very excited to see Yu Darvish return and be disgustingly filthy and reclaim the crown of "mindblowingly sick but will only place 3rd in cy young voting forever" from chris sale

also psyched to see a starting rotation of Harv/DeGrom/Thor/Matz/Big Bart. jesus christ and they still have Wheeler. I read an article that said the only team with a better rotation was the Cardinals and I can't process that at all.

That's because the Cardinals don't have a better rotation. Waino/Martinez/Wacha is awesome, but Leake is literally the most average starting pitcher you could possibly imagine, and lmao if you think Jaime Garcia is going to throw more than like 50 innings this year. The Cardinals have a very good rotation. The Mets have a better one.

Pancakes
May 21, 2001

Crypto-Rump Roast

Popete posted:

Statcast who is the greatest defensive player of all time?

INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR A MEANINGFUL ANSWER.

Ozzie Smith. Next question?

FairGame posted:

That's because the Cardinals don't have a better rotation. Waino/Martinez/Wacha is awesome, but Leake is literally the most average starting pitcher you could possibly imagine, and lmao if you think Jaime Garcia is going to throw more than like 50 innings this year. The Cardinals have a very good rotation. The Mets have a better one.

If we're talking about the Sports on Earth article it was ranking entire pitching staffs, not rotations alone. I'm much higher on Hot-me than most and even I think our rotation alone isn't the best front to back, but considering we have our 3 best relievers all coming back I don't think it's an outrageous ranking.

Edit: Holy poo poo, Ozzie actually has the most career defensive WAR of all players, apparently. I was just being a massive homer and making stuff up.

Pancakes fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Feb 17, 2016

Thom P. Tiers
May 29, 2008

Red Birds
Red Ass
Red Text
Lance Lynn being out for the year is a big blow but that just paves the way for people to get pissed off when Leake has a sub 3 ERA :getin:

Pancakes posted:


Edit: Holy poo poo, Ozzie actually has the most career defensive WAR of all players, apparently. I was just being a massive homer and making stuff up.

C'mon man Ozzie was the greatest.

Thom P. Tiers fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Feb 17, 2016

FairGame
Jul 24, 2001

Der Kommander

Pancakes posted:

Ozzie Smith. Next question?


If we're talking about the Sports on Earth article it was ranking entire pitching staffs, not rotations alone. I'm much higher on Hot-me than most and even I think our rotation alone isn't the best front to back, but considering we have our 3 best relievers all coming back I don't think it's an outrageous ranking.


Who are the Cardinals 3 best relievers? Rosenthal and Siegrist are obviously 1 and 2. Since you said "coming back" I can only imagine you mean Walden (who is awesome when healthy, but he's not healthy) or Maness (who's got an amazing knack for generating ground balls, but isn't really particularly good). Or Broxton, I guess, but Broxton is basically "acceptable bullpen filler"

The Final Boss is probably the Cardinals' 3rd best reliever.

Pancakes
May 21, 2001

Crypto-Rump Roast

FairGame posted:

Who are the Cardinals 3 best relievers? Rosenthal and Siegrist are obviously 1 and 2. Since you said "coming back" I can only imagine you mean Walden (who is awesome when healthy, but he's not healthy) or Maness (who's got an amazing knack for generating ground balls, but isn't really particularly good). Or Broxton, I guess, but Broxton is basically "acceptable bullpen filler"

The Final Boss is probably the Cardinals' 3rd best reliever.

I meant our 3 best relievers last year so I was counting Maness. I think he got ground down from overuse near the end but is reliable out of the 'pen and works as a solid bridge if we leave a starter in too long mid-inning. I'm anxious to see The Final Boss do his thing but even without him I think the Cardinals have one of the best bullpens on paper.

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

:homebrew::homebrew::homebrew:

if we can just get to a point where Walden is pitching by like august I'll be stoked with our bullpen.

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

:homebrew::homebrew::homebrew:

in general, i'm just really excited to see Adams, Piscotty, Grichuk, Peralta, Holliday, Yadi, Wong and Carpenter all on the field at the same time at some point this season, hopefully, so we can actually take advantage of that 'depth' that we have.

Ice To Meet You
Mar 5, 2007

The best defensive player ever was Bill Bergen

davecrazy
Nov 25, 2004

I'm an insufferable shitposter who does not deserve to root for such a good team. Also, this is what Matt Harvey thinks of me and my garbage posting.
Yankees keep finding new and enjoyable ways to gently caress over their fans.

http://deadspin.com/yankees-will-no-longer-accept-print-at-home-tickets-th-1759655868

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

davecrazy posted:

Yankees keep finding new and enjoyable ways to gently caress over their fans.

http://deadspin.com/yankees-will-no-longer-accept-print-at-home-tickets-th-1759655868

At least they're going to be doing mobile ticketing now! :gbsmith:

And I will say that I never really swung some massive deal on Stubhub for games, it was just nice to be able to make a decision the night before/day of a game and pick up tickets.

Inspector_666 fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Feb 17, 2016

davecrazy
Nov 25, 2004

I'm an insufferable shitposter who does not deserve to root for such a good team. Also, this is what Matt Harvey thinks of me and my garbage posting.
I'm going to miss being able to decide like 2 hours before 1st pitch to go to a Met game and have a whole row to myself.

Scob
Jul 17, 2005

i think the cards will be a fun team to watch and unless everything goes wrong they will at least have a wildcard spot.

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen
Kyle Schwarber continues to be a Big Fat Man who hits the everloving poo poo out of baseballs:

http://m.mlb.com/cutfour/2016/02/17...dbpr=5768707450

Windshields beware!

CubsWoo
Aug 17, 2005

Where the big boys RAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGH FUCK YOU

Retail Slave posted:

Kyle Schwarber continues to be a Big Fat Man who hits the everloving poo poo out of baseballs:

http://m.mlb.com/cutfour/2016/02/17...dbpr=5768707450

Windshields beware!

I like the part where Kyle got Safelite involved to get the glass fixed. I smell sponsorship!

will_colorado
Jun 30, 2007

MLB network is just trolling at this point:

https://twitter.com/mlbnetwork/status/700107506891108352

Longpig Bard
Dec 29, 2004



Is that the bobble head play?

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Orioles are expecting to sign both Fowler and Gallardo shortly. Gallardo is supposedly around 3 years, $40-45 mil, and Fowler is 2-3 years, $26-30 mil

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/02/orioles-yovani-gallardo-dexter-fowler-jay-bruce-latest-rumors.html

Infidel Castro
Jun 8, 2010

Again and again
Your face reminds me of a bleak future
Despite the absence of hope
I give you this sacrifice




Bumming Your Scene posted:

Is that the bobble head play?

I think you're thinking of Kent Hrbek tagging out Ron Gant as he fell off of 1st base completely under his own momentum.

Dubious
Mar 7, 2006

The Heroes the Vikings Deserve
Lipstick Apathy
bought Mariners season tickets today. I go to enough games during the summer that, hey, why not. Also the Twins are here pretty early on in the season. Usually they come into town in the middle of summer or near the end.

BallerBallerDillz
Jun 11, 2009

Cock, Rules, Everything, Around, Me
Scratchmo

Dubious posted:

bought Mariners season tickets today. I go to enough games during the summer that, hey, why not. Also the Twins are here pretty early on in the season. Usually they come into town in the middle of summer or near the end.

What up STH buddy? :hfive:

You do a 20 game plan? We're on package A. If you're on A as well we should grab a drink in the pen pregame some say.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Colby is still the best folks:

https://twitter.com/Matt_Gwin/status/699996028452392960/photo/1

Spoeank
Jul 16, 2003

That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it
Figured out where Bonds got all his steroids:

Rand alPaul
Feb 3, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo

Spoeank posted:

Figured out where Bonds got all his steroids:



He's even rubbing it on him. Busted.

kensei
Dec 27, 2007

He has come home, where he belongs. The Ancient Mariner returns to lead his first team to glory, forever and ever. Amen!


Dubious posted:

bought Mariners season tickets today. I go to enough games during the summer that, hey, why not. Also the Twins are here pretty early on in the season. Usually they come into town in the middle of summer or near the end.


The Nards Pan posted:

What up STH buddy? :hfive:

You do a 20 game plan? We're on package A. If you're on A as well we should grab a drink in the pen pregame some say.

I wanna drive up from Portland for a game again this year, it's been too long.

Dubious
Mar 7, 2006

The Heroes the Vikings Deserve
Lipstick Apathy

The Nards Pan posted:

What up STH buddy? :hfive:

You do a 20 game plan? We're on package A. If you're on A as well we should grab a drink in the pen pregame some say.

I did package A too. Definitely down for a pregame drink., and then choosing our own seats after the 2nd inning when half of the stadium is empty :v:

Super Jay Mann
Nov 6, 2008


The game goes into extras and the Braves win anyway?

Peggotty
May 9, 2014

Retail Slave posted:

Kyle Schwarber continues to be a Big Fat Man who hits the everloving poo poo out of baseballs:

http://m.mlb.com/cutfour/2016/02/17...dbpr=5768707450

Windshields beware!

Oh nice, with video. And it's an animated background for a screenshot of an instagram picture, exactly what I was hoping for!

Dingleberry Jones
Jun 2, 2008
If I'm posting a new thread, it means there is a thread already posted and I failed at using the forum search correctly

Super Jay Mann posted:

The game goes into extras and the Braves win anyway?

Game goes extra innings and Cox brings in Liebrandt to hand the series to the Pirates. Just like Game 6 of the '91 World Series. :(

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen

cebrail posted:

Oh nice, with video. And it's an animated background for a screenshot of an instagram picture, exactly what I was hoping for!

That wasn't there when I first posted the link. And scroll down a bit to see the windshield.

DrPossum
May 15, 2004

i am not a surgeon



i would love his hot takes on the current political situation

FairGame
Jul 24, 2001

Der Kommander

DrPossum posted:



i would love his hot takes on the current political situation

To be honest I rather doubt he knows there IS a political situation and you'd be disappointed he doesn't give you a Schilling-tier take.

Rasmus is just a really stupid man.

shadok
Dec 12, 2004

You tried to destroy it once before, Commodore.
The result was a wrecked ship and a dead crew.
Fun Shoe

Happier than ever that Kevin Pillar is a Blue Jay. :swoon:

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seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal

DrPossum posted:



i would love his hot takes on the current political situation

The most offensive thing about this picture is that facial hair, yeeessh.

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