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quote:Adblocking companies acting as a “modern-day protection racket” have been slammed by culture secretary John Whittingdale, who offered government support to those such as newspaper websites hit by the technology. http://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/mar/02/adblocking-protection-racket-john-whittingdale
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Mar 2, 2016 14:48
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Zephro posted:Also I'm kinda sympathetic to that Yanis Varoufakis piece from earlier when he points out that the EU stands a good chance of collapsing anyway and Brexit would make that a racing certainty, and that if that happened there's a good chance we'd get to see a full re-run of the 1930s which was literally exactly what the EU was set up to avoid. the EU was a trade agreement that sort of got out of hand, i don't understand this revisionism about it being a peace project
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Cerv posted:I'm not convinced that leaving the EU will do anything to end the CAP or lessen its negative impacts on the wider world. france loves it some CAP and will let it go over its dying embers
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Cerv posted:I'm not convinced that leaving the EU will do anything to end the CAP or lessen its negative impacts on the wider world.
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V. Illych L. posted:the EU was a trade agreement that sort of got out of hand, i don't understand this revisionism about it being a peace project the idea was that if you integrated trade deeply enough the idea of going to war with your neighbor would be economic suicide
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Cerv posted:I'm not convinced that leaving the EU will do anything to end the CAP or lessen its negative impacts on the wider world. It's not a requirement of the common market, and it's not universally negative - I hear it's a godsend in the post-communist countries and in (post-socialist?  ) France. It's just here that it's a complete poo poo.
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V. Illych L. posted:the EU was a trade agreement that sort of got out of hand, i don't understand this revisionism about it being a peace project http://europa.eu/about-eu/basic-information/symbols/europe-day/schuman-declaration/index_en.htm quote:World peace cannot be safeguarded without the making of creative efforts proportionate to the dangers which threaten it. Zephro fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Mar 2, 2016 |
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Mar 2, 2016 14:51
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V. Illych L. posted:the EU was a trade agreement that sort of got out of hand, i don't understand this revisionism about it being a peace project quote:The ECSC was first proposed by French foreign minister Robert Schuman on 9 May 1950 as a way to prevent further war between France and Germany. He declared his aim was to "make war not only unthinkable but materially impossible"[3] which was to be achieved by regional integration, of which the ECSC was the first step. The Treaty would create a common market for coal and steel among its member states which served to neutralise competition between European nations over natural resources, particularly in the Ruhr.
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Mar 2, 2016 14:52
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Oberleutnant posted:I really, really hope the government try to ban adblocking at some point. Tesseraction posted:It's not a requirement of the common market, and it's not universally negative - I hear it's a godsend in the post-communist countries and in (post-socialist? Malcolm XML posted:france loves it some CAP and will let it go over its dying embers 
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Malcolm XML posted:the idea was that if you integrated trade deeply enough the idea of going to war with your neighbor would be economic suicide i am not convinced of this at all. it echoes too closely pre-WW1 rhetoric which would have been relatively fresh in everyone's minds in the post-war period and was proven entirely false by said World War the european coal and steel union was primarily a project of capital in western europe. while trade is a factor in reducing the probability of international conflict, there is basically no chance that it was the actual motivation for the project. the cold war had already brought with it clear blocs, and though atlanticism wasn't entirely uncontroversial for many years after the war there was no real chance of intercine conflict in western europe with the looming threat of soviet involvement
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ok, let me rephrase: i do not believe anyone actually believed in this rhetoric as it was made
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What would actually happen if France declared war on Germany? They could totally kick them in if they wanted.
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vegetables posted:What would actually happen if France declared war on Germany? They could totally kick them in if they wanted. Yeah. France or Poland could take over the country before the Bundeswehr can refurbish enough neglected tanks and planes to mount any sort of resistance 
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Oberleutnant posted:loooooooooooool installing ublock origin: an act of TinTower posted:I've found probably the most ridiculous statement to ever be put into the public records of Parliament. I'm not sure whether the person who said this must be super conservative or super college-liberal to get both ends of that statement wrong, so I guess the horseshoe theory applies
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vegetables posted:What would actually happen if France declared war on Germany? They could totally kick them in if they wanted. TinTower posted:I've found probably the most ridiculous statement to ever be put into the public records of Parliament. 
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Mar 2, 2016 15:13
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Guavanaut posted:What's the context of this? The Home Affairs Select Committee is conducting an inquiry into prostitution with the aim of criminalising the purchase of sex. This is from one of the written evidence submissions.
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Mar 2, 2016 15:15
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What's their obsession with the failure that is the Nordic model?
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Mar 2, 2016 15:21
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Oberleutnant posted:I really, really hope the government try to ban adblocking at some point. Didn't they ban fisting and pretty much any kind of BDSM in porn last year? And they were trying get poppers banned last month? Someone high up has to be pretty heavily invested on advertising over some straight as gently caress porn. Maybe the BBC are planning on making a Tory based redtube as part of their new online strategy. Edit: the complete fuckery towards female sex workers just adds to my theory Booga fucked around with this message at 15:28 on Mar 2, 2016 |
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Mar 2, 2016 15:25
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Guavanaut posted:What's their obsession with the failure that is the Nordic model? Ironically the one Nordic model we shouldn't copy.
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Booga posted:Didn't they ban fisting and pretty much any kind of BDSM in porn last year? And they were trying get poppers banned last month?
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Booga posted:Didn't they ban fisting and pretty much any kind of BDSM in porn last year? And they were trying get poppers banned last month? Or, y'know, there's hardcore religious wingnuts up top with a giant hateboner for any form of 'deviancy'. This is a Conservative government, after all.
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Booga posted:Didn't they ban fisting and pretty much any kind of BDSM in porn last year? And they were trying get poppers banned last month? Remember when they blocked Pirate Bay and solved piracy forever
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Mar 2, 2016 15:31
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Unison's submission is rather ridiculous too. It says that "prostitution is a form of commercial sexual exploitation, not work". I mean, imagine being a trade union that actively wants to gently caress over workers' rights instead of trying to expand them.
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Mar 2, 2016 15:37
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Food is a physiological necessity, not a form of work, therefore we will be withdrawing all employment rights from food service workers. 
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Darth Walrus posted:Or, y'know, there's hardcore religious wingnuts up top with a giant hateboner for any form of 'deviancy'. I was just joking. Besides the BBC would just keep slashing the budget of a Tory porn tube until it was just a TV show based around Bill Odey searching for Britain's sexiest pig.
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Mar 2, 2016 15:43
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Health is a physiological need, not a form of work, therefore we will withdraw from representing NHS junior doctors. *Unison disappears in a puff of logic, Jeremy Hunt lets out an evil hahkle*
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Tempo 119 posted:Remember when they blocked Pirate Bay and solved piracy forever Probably improved the quality of the porn uploaded, though.
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Tesseraction posted:How is it isolationism? It's not voting for a wall or to stop trading with the EU, merely to leave the political union. The EU should be reformed from within, and if I believed that were likely I wouldn't have considered voting Leave, but if anything by voting stay you're giving a thumbs up to an increasingly lovely institution. I think the Leave camp has to 1) state the positive benefits that we'll enjoy if we leave, and 2) make a case that these changes significantly outweigh the benefits we'll lose by leaving PLUS the inevitable costs any significant transition such as this will have. So far I've yet to see anybody (here or elsewhere) even complete point 1. (Sidenote: I don't know what your position was on the Indyref but everything you said could apply just as well to Scotland / the UK. I don't think many people were pro-independence on the basis of "we'll let that lot sort themselves out and come back later".)
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Tempo 119 posted:Remember when they blocked Pirate Bay and solved piracy forever I find it really weird that they haven't blocked Showbox. Since it's easy to use and a lot of people use it and don't even consider it piracy since they can get it as an app or whatever.
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I was ambivalent on Scottish independence but I tacitly supported the Leave side. I suppose in hindsight it was lucky they didn't given their reliance on the oil price for their economy. I suppose this is the part where I'll be met with "ah, but what if Britain leaving the EU ends up with the UK in the very situation Scotland nearly was" to which I lazily wave at the various bubbles all over the different financial markets.
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Guavanaut posted:I'm not voting because I think it will make Britain immediately wealthier or stronger or whatever the talking heads are on about, Britain is wealthy enough, too wealthy perhaps, the problem is with who has that wealth. That's not what is being voted on in June though, but it is something that the British people will have to act on. I'm considering voting Leave because there is a strong chance that it will cause the EU to collapse and put a stop to the absolutely atrocious poo poo that they pull on the world stage. I might be slightly worse off, but I think that the world might be slightly better the more impotent the nations of Europe are. Once again you've thought about the politicians in great detail but neglected the minor issue of the actual people they'll be loving over with their writing.
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TACD posted:It's not Full Isolationism Now but it's a firm choice to start down that path instead of improving the 'European nation' one we're currently travelling. Ultimately I'm not convinced by purely negative arguments (i.e. here are the bad things we will lose by leaving the EU) because they ignore the (admittedly difficult to quantify) good things we will lose at the same time. TACD posted:I think the Leave camp has to 1) state the positive benefits that we'll enjoy if we leave, and 2) make a case that these changes significantly outweigh the benefits we'll lose by leaving PLUS the inevitable costs any significant transition such as this will have. So far I've yet to see anybody (here or elsewhere) even complete point 1. TACD posted:(Sidenote: I don't know what your position was on the Indyref but everything you said could apply just as well to Scotland / the UK. I don't think many people were pro-independence on the basis of "we'll let that lot sort themselves out and come back later".)
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Guavanaut posted:Just the benefits we'll enjoy, or can we speculate about the benefits to the world as a whole? Either Leave or Remain involves a lot of what-ifs. What if we stayed and really pushed for good reforms to make the EU less lovely? What if leaving precipitated a collapse that made them less able to be lovely? But yes, I would like to stay and push for reforms. If we're able to get special snowflake exemptions from so many EU rules then it doesn't seem outrageous to suggest we could probably make quite a case for generalised reforms if anybody was bothered to try.
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Oberleutnant posted:In a speech at the Oxford Media Convention, the culture secretary said the fast-growing use of software that blocked advertising presented an existential threat to the newspaper and music industries. That's the free market, baby: survival of the fittest, adapt or die. I for one welcome this new environmental pressure and the innovation it will surely force the stagnant media to make.
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So apparently the BBC is going to start making it a legal requirement to pay the license fee even if you only watch iPlayer. I think this might win an award for the single least enforceable law ever written.
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Isn't it way past time that they made it a part of some general taxation with a ringfenced fund? I could see the point back when TVs were uncommon, and vaguely see it when terrestrial broadcast television was the only way for 90% of people to get television, but it's always been a regressive tax and now it's a fuzzily applied regressive tax. What next, bringing back the radio license for people that stream internet audio?
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Tesseraction posted:I was ambivalent on Scottish independence but I tacitly supported the Leave side. I suppose in hindsight it was lucky they didn't given their reliance on the oil price for their economy. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jan/16/scotland-oil-price-slump-snp-forecasts-critics
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Guavanaut posted:What next, bringing back the radio license for people that stream internet audio? Expropriation of EM radiation of any kind is made a criminal offence. In other news, the government is set to sell the rights to all the UK's solar energy for the princely sum of £7million. The proceeds will be used to fit the benches in Whitehall with electric bum warmers.
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