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Darth Walrus posted:Aren't you worried about driving down Pissflaps's wages by competing with him?
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Extreme0 posted:David Coburn is a treasure of idiocy. Decrim stops us throwing users in prison but it still restricts their avenues for purchase or manufacture to criminal enterprise. Legalization allows the government to mandate quality controls, ban advertising, keep sale away from schools and in licensed premises, and I can't see it causing any more use than decriminalization, which has so far not turned the whole of Portugal into a gigantic crack den. Extreme0 posted:Failed to properly ask permission for a politcal cartoon that he commisioned to be edited for UKIP https://edinburgheye.wordpress.com/2014/05/28/does-david-coburn-know-about-copyright/
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Guavanaut posted:Decrim stops us throwing users in prison but it still restricts their avenues for purchase or manufacture to criminal enterprise. Legalization allows the government to mandate quality controls, ban advertising, keep sale away from schools and in licensed premises, and I can't see it causing any more use than decriminalization, which has so far not turned the whole of Portugal into a gigantic crack den. Portugal proves that legalisation drives down drug use, Switzerland proves that drug prescription drives down addiction and all associated crime and desocialisation prescribe weed errday
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If you are going to have a go at MrL_JaKiri id pick the oxbridge rower who waltzed into a full years work experience at a software development company in his gap year angle
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Extreme0 posted:Because Autism is bad. For reals, though, anxiety, depression, and suicidal behaviour are common enough amongst autistic folks that this ain't a great line to push. There's a reason autism charities like to frame it as unusual mental wiring rather than a disorder. Darth Walrus fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Mar 6, 2016 |
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NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:What are Jess Phillips' idiotic views, other than her view on sex workers and wanting to stab Corbyn? She rubs me up the wrong way and I'd like a riposte to her supporters beyond her endless complaining about people being mean on Twitter. To be fair those are the main ones and she's not even really that bad on the stabbing Corbyn front she's not one actively plotting against him she just doesn't seem to feel the need to keep criticisms to herself because she is well pretty outspoken, I guess that's why she rubs people up the wrong way, when she compared the Cologne sex attacks to Broad Street in Birmingham she was in a way correct but not putting it in a way that went across well. Her complaints aren't as much people being on twitter as they are rape threats too. Thinking about it I was being slightly unfair not pointing that she is one of the better ones amongst Labour but not near the best. There was a great story about her Dianne Abbott arguing over whether Corbyn's cabinet has enough women and Jess Phillips told her to gently caress off, when asked how Abbott responded Phillips said 'well she hosed off'.
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Seaside Loafer posted:If you are going to have a go at MrL_JaKiri id pick the oxbridge rower who waltzed into a full years work experience at a software development company in his gap year angle ??? Everything after "rower" isn't true so
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Mar 6, 2016 21:58
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In this thread, that's the worst bit. 
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Mar 6, 2016 22:00
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Rowing is posh.
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Mar 6, 2016 22:03
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what about using the rowing machine at the gym
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Mar 6, 2016 22:05
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That's not rowing. That's using a rowing machine.
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Ok fair enough
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Mar 6, 2016 22:07
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What is the appropriate verb for the activity performed on a rowing machine?
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OwlFancier posted:What is the appropriate verb for the activity performed on a rowing machine? exercising
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MrL_JaKiri posted:??? Everything after "rower" isn't true so
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Mar 6, 2016 22:10
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i row whenever i go fishing i have a friend who has a rowboat near a lake with fish in it. i do not consider this a particularly posh pastime
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Mar 6, 2016 22:12
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That's rowing as a means to an end though, not rowing as an end in itself. I'm not counting "trying to beat the other oxbridge team and not be scared of a swan" as a separate end from rowing.
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Mar 6, 2016 22:15
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I like boating also. Good fun, good exercise.
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Mar 6, 2016 22:15
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I tried rowing once for a charity thing. My team kept losing until I was switched out for a tiny elderly woman and then they won. 
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Rowing has both working class and upper class roots - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doggett%27s_Coat_and_Badge vs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henley_Royal_Regatta (ie professionalism vs amateurism, and only the wealthy could afford to be amateurs).Seaside Loafer posted:Oh ok, im willing to accept my memory is inaccurate, it often is, and im not about to go off on an autistic (hehe) post searching mission at this time of night! Didn't have a gap year, I did work at a tech company as a scientist/software guy but that was after graduating.
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Mar 6, 2016 22:17
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It's not upper class if you're rowing to the beat of a drum on a galley So there
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Mar 6, 2016 22:19
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How do I get the drum-banging job
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Mar 6, 2016 22:22
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It generally involves selling out to the ruling class. I know another thing that involves selling out to the ruling class and a series of bangs.
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StoneOfShame posted:Errr Jess Phillips isn't a whole lot like Yvette Cooper, for one Jess Phillips is pretty loving outspoken and has no problem calling people on their poo poo, I thought she was pretty decent at first but she's slowly started showing some idiotic views. The Graun and others are really beginning to push her as a future leader though. I've been keeping an eye on her since tbe election but I have no idea what her policy positions are, she seems to mainly react to things - often in unhelpfully aggressive or patronising ways which the media then present as her being tough e: she reminds me of Prescott if anything
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Rowing is cool and good all sports are not posh by definition even if some posh people do them. Except of course hunting, jousting and the Eton wall game.Phoon posted:I've been keeping an eye on her since tbe election but I have no idea what her policy positions are, she seems to mainly react to things - often in unhelpfully aggressive or patronising ways which the media then present as her being tough She's big on domestic abuse, women's rights etc as she used to work at a few women's charities, she does often come across as very aggressive and for want of a better word mouthy, these aren't necessarily bad qualities if used properly I mean Tom Watson has been aggressive and mouthy to great effect but its about knowing when not to run around shouting at people. How long until she says something really aggressive at someone and the Guardian does a piece about how all her critics are just intimidated by strong women? Edit: She is a million times better than her predecessor Hemming who is a massive oval office.
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Guavanaut posted:The rest of them are dumb, but this seems like the only workable end to the war on drugs and drug funded organized crime/terrorism. I'm not against it but knowning David, do you really expect him to come up with the idea without thinking in the long-term? This is a man who wants the NHS to fall apart like the other Kippers and his repulsiveness towards people he dosen't like is preety much punishment inducing. What I'm trying to say is. What's to expect him to not manipulate people with the more heavy hitting drugs such as Heroin and leave them like that? Guavanaut posted:This one may be a form of idiocy but copyright law is broken as gently caress and needs to be thrown on a loving fire anyway. Copyright law is broken as gently caress. Still dosen't mean that he isn't an idiot for not thinking about it. The man who failed his graduation in law has failed to realise that he didn't ask permission to edit and use a copyrighted picture for his own advertisement. Then again I'm not surprised that the extent of his knowledge in law is the same extent he knows about EU regulations and such. I.E. gently caress all. Darth Walrus posted:For reals, though, anxiety, depression, and suicidal behaviour are common enough amongst autistic folks that this ain't a great line to push. There's a reason autism charities like to frame it as unusual mental wiring rather than a disorder. To be honest? I don't really care. Phoon posted:I've been keeping an eye on her since tbe election but I have no idea what her policy positions are, she seems to mainly react to things - often in unhelpfully aggressive or patronising ways which the media then present as her being tough She may be presented as tough but is there anything about her that has shown her to not being so tough when under pressure or when someone touched a nerve of hers.
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Extreme0 posted:She may be presented as tough but is there anything about her that has shown her to not being so tough when under pressure or when someone touched a nerve of hers. She came across as pretty tough with the whole rape threats thing. Her views on sex work are surprising as well considering how much work she has done with sex workers, she set up Birmingham's first centre for trafficked women as far as I know. It may be the case that because she's seen the worst case treatment of sex workers she wants to just try and get rid of it and is being very misguided about how to go about it.
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Extreme0 posted:I'm not against it but knowning David, do you really expect him to come up with the idea without thinking in the long-term? This is a man who wants the NHS to fall apart like the other Kippers and his repulsiveness towards people he dosen't like is preety much punishment inducing. What I'm trying to say is. What's to expect him to not manipulate people with the more heavy hitting drugs such as Heroin and leave them like that? It's one of those cases where they have correctly identified that the government has done something useless and counterproductive, but fail at the wider social angle and go for a 'do nothing' approach.
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Extreme0 posted:To be honest? To be honest? As someone with a relative whose self-destructive behaviour was largely motivated by guilt, shame, and despair over his Asperger's Syndrome (which he saw as an incurable disease that made him a worse person), I kind of do care. The kind of poo poo that folks on the spectrum get on SA and other sites is really sucky and unhelpful, and can cause significant real-world damage.
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V. Illych L. posted:sex work legislation is, imo, one of those topics that it's entirely possible to have a profound disagreement where both parties are reflected, well-intentioned and reasonably well-informed people we could legislate and control in a best case scenario but it's just not going to work while the police are still as much of a societal problem as they are now
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J_RBG posted:It's not upper class if you're rowing to the beat of a drum on a galley Sorry, Dragon boating is posh as gently caress.  (Out of shot is the drummer.)
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I just got added on Steam by someone I was playing GTA Online with a couple of days ago. She brought up politics for some reason, and revealed that she was a 'libertarian / anarcho-capitalist' and that she wanted to leave Germany because it's a socialist hellhole with too many 'people of colour'. That button to block all communications with someone is very close to hand for a good reason.
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Darth Walrus posted:To be honest? The system did something right there which might not have happened at all 20 years ago. And yes the aspie mocking can be a bit brutal on the internet. (must admit ive laughed at stuff though so guilty, shown daughter some of it and she gets it, though she woulndt have if she hadnt had all the help if that makes sense) Seaside Loafer fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Mar 6, 2016 |
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:I just got added on Steam by someone I was playing GTA Online with a couple of days ago. I don't get the overlap between pure unadulterated capitalism/individualism, which while a lovely philosophy should at least treat everyone on their 'merits' or usefulness to capital (Ayn Rand decried racism as the "lowest, most crudely primitive form of collectivism") and being a racist poo poo. Other than the obvious answer that perhaps lovely philosophies attract lovely people.
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Just because you see the utility of a black slave caste doesn't mean you should have to mix with them, god.
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:I just got added on Steam by someone I was playing GTA Online with a couple of days ago. well at least they're using nice terms like 'people of colour' to describe their horrible racist views wait no does that just mean that 'people of colour' is going to have horrible racist undertones in ten years' time and we'll have to come up with yet another new word to describe the ethnic groups they hate, goddamnit racists i changed my mind stick with lovely words for lovely thoughts and leave our political correctness for us
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'Negro' replaced 'colored' as the preferred and polite word for Americans of African descent back when 'black' was considered offensive and derogatory and 'African' was considered to imply foreignness. And the euphemism treadmill keeps on rolling.
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Seaside Loafer posted:My daughter got picked up for aspergers really young, like 5 or 6 or something and got the best special help the system and her parents could provide and is now a very functional 14 year old. Its that personal experience that informed me that its a real thing not to be mocked. If she hadnt been noticed and hadn't had that help she might still be rocking in the corner of the class and biting the other children. Instead she is a tall beautiful thoughtful young lady who reads allot, A's everything at school and is destined to outshine myself and her mother in every aspect of life. Yeah. For the record, I use the past tense not because something horrible happened to that relative, but because he got treatment and support and is now in a significantly better place, mentally speaking, but a significant part of that was thanks to the folks supporting him doing some serious work to destigmatise the spectrum. Like, having Asperger's will mean that you inherently have more difficulty with certain things, like reading social cues and organising yourself (the technical term is 'impaired executive functioning'), but it's a pretty integral part of you and how your brain's set up, and framing it purely as a negative you'll have to deal with for the rest of your life is a pretty brutal burden for someone on the spectrum to bear, and it's nice to play up the positives and the different-but-not-bad stuff as well.
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