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Pissflaps posted:Does he have any Jewish best friends? That could help counter such accusations. That's a bad idea.
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Pissflaps posted:Surely it's up to his accusers to provide the evidence of anti semitism? I don't think you quite understand the way 'antisemitism' is used to shut down debate critical of Israel
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Mar 12, 2016 11:26
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Ceterum censeo Ivdaea delenda est
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Mar 12, 2016 11:31
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Trin Tragula posted:Starter for 10: Jeremy helps get a commemorative plaque on the site of the first North London Synagogue after having Shabbat dinner with a local rabbi. Thank you. That's positive.
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Oberleutnant posted:Ceterum censeo Ivdaea delenda est To be fair, the Emperor Hadrian actually achieved this.
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Gonzo McFee posted:That's a bad idea. Why is being friends with Jewish people a bad idea?
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Pissflaps posted:Why is being friends with Jewish people a bad idea? You're beautiful. I wish I could have you stuffed.
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Mar 12, 2016 11:54
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Ausländer raus! http://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/mar/12/eu-workers-deported-earning-less-35000-employees-americans-australians quote:Ayson Frazier, a 25-year-old classical musician from Washington DC, is trying to describe how it feels when people ask her whether she wants to stay in Britain. “It’s like asking a fish: ‘How’s the water?’. London is my home. This is where I have built my adult life since the age of 19.”
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I have Jewish family friends who say they'd never consider voting for Corbyn because he's massively anti-Israel, which caught me off guard too because I'd never heard that before. I think the accusation is anti-Zionism, not anti-Semitism, and maybe that has a bit more heft because of his links to Palestine, but I still really doubt Corbyn's views are anything like "gently caress Israel"
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Mar 12, 2016 12:36
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...e-a6927056.html Good news for the middle class, they're getting a tax cut! Bad news, it's coming out of disabled people's benefits.
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LemonDrizzle posted:Ausländer raus! This is the thing for me. I grew up in the EU-iest place in the EU (I'm basically the EU version of Coohoolin minus the Scottish thing), so I'm instinctively pro-EU, though of course I'm in agreement that it's too capitalist and anti-worker in many ways. But the UK leaving the EU now will simply allow the Tories to add 27 more countries to the list of "sorry you're too poor to come in". This is a step in the wrong direction. I appreciate Guavanaut's point that the EU is like a club that's keeping non-EU (and therefore mostly non-white) foreigners out, but leaving the club or disbanding it just puts us back to square one, with each country putting up very similar walls on its own terms. Or is it that, as anti-border international socialist types, the EU is just an illusion of what we should be working towards (a capitalist straw borderless world), that can't be converted to anything useful?
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Boing posted:I have Jewish family friends who say they'd never consider voting for Corbyn because he's massively anti-Israel, which caught me off guard too because I'd never heard that before. Watch the Daily Politics from Thursday. They had that in and out of Labour nut spouting about the Zionist problem. Maybe that's what they think Corbs is?
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Boing posted:I have Jewish family friends who say they'd never consider voting for Corbyn because he's massively anti-Israel, which caught me off guard too because I'd never heard that before. They should be because Israel is a loving shithole. You can be jewish and anti-israel in the same way you can be christian and not a homophobe.
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Boing posted:I have Jewish family friends who say they'd never consider voting for Corbyn because he's massively anti-Israel, which caught me off guard too because I'd never heard that before. I think my views on Israel/Palestine are largely similar to the views of Corbyn, though I'm guessing here, I've not sat & asked him exact details. I'd say I was anti-Zionism but certainly not anti-Israel. Anti-Israel implies denying the right of Israel to exist which strikes me as a moot point. It'd be a discussion that only the most fanatical would want to have post 1948. It seems really harmful & short-sighted towards equating wanting to see the conditions of the Occupied Territories improve with being anti-Israel. I mean I don't like Israel's current government because it's chock-full of hyper-nationalist arseholes but then I don't much like the current UK government either.
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Boing posted:I have Jewish family friends who say they'd never consider voting for Corbyn because he's massively anti-Israel, which caught me off guard too because I'd never heard that before. To many recognising Palestinians as humans counts as "gently caress Isreal"
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Gonzo McFee posted:That's a bad idea. I don't think young Mr Flaps has Corbyn's best interests at heart.
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Mar 12, 2016 13:30
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XMNN posted:gently caress israel Only if you're circumcised, goyim.
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forkboy84 posted:I think my views on Israel/Palestine are largely similar to the views of Corbyn, though I'm guessing here, I've not sat & asked him exact details. I'd say I was anti-Zionism but certainly not anti-Israel. Anti-Israel implies denying the right of Israel to exist Nah It just means exactly what you mean when you say "gently caress Britain", which is that the murder of shitbirds running the place are doing a bang up job of supporting some truly awful domestic and foreign policy. Alternative answer: no state should have the right to exist :bakuninsay:
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LemonDrizzle posted:Ausländer raus! My fiancee and I are sorting out our immigration paperwork for her (based on marriage) and between the cost to apply itself, various other fees and 500 quid's worth of NHS surcharge it's going to cost us about two grand. That's going up by several hundred more in about a week. Amd that's good for about 2 1/2 years before you get to apply (and pay) again for ILR itself. Fortunately as a software engineer in the Southeast I make enough money we're not hit by the gently caress-off-if-you're-poor requirement that the UK citizen make over about 19 grand a year.
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Boing posted:I have Jewish family friends who say they'd never consider voting for Corbyn because he's massively anti-Israel, which caught me off guard too because I'd never heard that before. it's not so much "gently caress Israel/Norn Iron/etc" inasmuch as not being wont to endorse anything more than eloquent epitaphs which is not particularly unusual, as 20th century non-Soviet leftists go. as Gandhi said, on the eve of Partition: if India wants her bloodbath, she shall have it ronya fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Mar 12, 2016 |
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Gonzo McFee posted:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...e-a6927056.html lol 
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And you know gandhi is a trustworthy source on the topic of bloodbaths, because his words are backed by NUCLEAR WEAPONS!
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Zephro posted:When I was at school in the late 1990s it was a running joke (an unfunny one on reflection) that Savile was a nonce. I've never understood this idea that it came as a massive shock - everyone I knew assumed he was a child molester. The story about Savile commiting necrophilia totally did the rounds at my school, Ricky Gervais even alluded to it when Savile was on his chat show.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DnUUkvGoGs&t=1980s Louix Theroux talks a bit about the rumours.
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I judge countries on the people they put into government, which is why a country that votes in Likud is bad. A country that votes in the Pigfucker Toffs is also bad. All countries are bad.
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It's unfair that only the people of Surrey Heath get to vote on whether we leave Michael Gove.
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thespaceinvader posted:I wonder if they're similarly worried about tobacco and alcohol... I think the new policy is still more restrictive on cannabis than alcohol and tobacco: while it would be legal to buy or sell, import into the country would be restricted and you wouldn't be able to get pre-rolled joints at a shop. Only one "420 blaze it" pun in the debate, though.
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Guavanaut posted:What would the policy say about growing it? Legal, with restrictions that you don't grow too much. The policy also says people should be able to form small social clubs to pool their pot farm together.
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Tesseraction posted:I judge countries on the people they put into government, which is why a country that votes in Likud is bad. A country that votes in the Pigfucker Toffs is also bad. Iceland might be alright. e; oh boy I can't wait to lose my disability benefits because Gideon doesn't think I need any help, glad a qualified medical doctor with a full view of my conditions is making these decisions and not some coked-up toff. Ms Adequate fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Mar 12, 2016 |
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Boing posted:I have Jewish family friends who say they'd never consider voting for Corbyn because he's massively anti-Israel, which caught me off guard too because I'd never heard that before. There were two moments listening to the leadership hustings before Corbyn smashed it that made me think "uh oh". One of them was a question Corbyn answered where he talked about Israel and he kept saying over and over "they will rue the day, rue the day!" he was talking about their actions would come back to bite them but he sounded like an old lunatic. Incidentally the second "uh oh" was when people asked him how'd he'd counter the negative media and he said "nobody listens to them anyway"
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shrike82 posted:lol Less of the selfies, please.
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nopantsjack posted:There were two moments listening to the leadership hustings before Corbyn smashed it that made me think "uh oh". interestingly, the way he actually did it during the leadership campaign was very clever, and probably the result of him having people on his campaign staff more qualified than the ones in Labour HQ - whenever some "Corbyn Thinks Outrageous Thing" headline started dominating, they'd just roll out a new controversial and popular policy proposal, effectively using the outraged shock and horror to help maintain the momentum uh, no pun intended
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