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CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

The hateful are just the most vocal.

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Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Friendly Humour posted:

That's awfully nice of them. Did you ask for the grant or did they come to you?

I went to them, they were keen to help out, I've done a lot with them on various events and projects, so we've had a pretty long relationship.

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
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Brown Moses posted:

I went to them, they were keen to help out, I've done a lot with them on various events and projects, so we've had a pretty long relationship.

Cool!

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
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By the way, I was looking for any and all criticisms of you online and stumbled on your spat with Seymour Hersh and a MIT rocket expert team headed by Postol et al from like two years back about those Sarin gas attacks in Syria. And about ten thousand foilhat media articles denouncing you as a NATO lizard.

What I can't find is Hersh ever acknowledging that you even exist, did he ever actually respond to you in any way? Or Postol for that matter?

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Friendly Humour posted:

By the way, I was looking for any and all criticisms of you online and stumbled on your spat with Seymour Hersh and a MIT rocket expert team headed by Postol et al from like two years back about those Sarin gas attacks in Syria. And about ten thousand foilhat media articles denouncing you as a NATO lizard.

What I can't find is Hersh ever acknowledging that you even exist, did he ever actually respond to you in any way? Or Postol for that matter?

Yeah, he was interviewed in Diken about it
http://www.diken.com.tr/seymour-her...ttack-in-syria/

Diken then interview both myself and Dan Kaszeta about that interview
http://www.diken.com.tr/brown-moses...for-the-rebels/
http://www.diken.com.tr/dan-kaszeta...acturing-sarin/

Funnily enough, I was at the ARIJ journalism festival in Jordan, and Seymour Hersh was going to appear the day after I left, so all the Syrian journalists and activists there were very keen on me battling to the death with him at some point, but disappointed to know I wouldn't be there. They apparently gave him a real grilling on the subject (after a lengthy deep dive discussion with me), or so they told me after I left. So I managed to get mild food poisoning from some Lebanese food, and the next morning I'm up, ready to take my flight out of Jordan, and I leave my room, and head to the elevators. Just then, an American who is behind me asks "excuse me, do you know where they serve breakfast?", and I turn around and it's Seymour Hersh. Obviously he doesn't recognise me, and I'm feeling way too ill and gassy to start any debates, so I just say, "yeah, downstairs, to your left", and take the lift down to the lobby. Although in fairness, if I had been fit and healthy I probably wouldn't have bothered anyway, especially not before breakfast.

As for Ted Postol, I keep meeting people from MIT who give me the impression he's seen as a fringe figure among his fellow academics, and it was me and Dan Kaszeta who got invited to the OPCW's anniversary event, not Hersh and Postol.

Brown Moses fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Mar 15, 2016

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
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Brown Moses posted:

Yeah, he was interviewed in Diken about it
http://www.diken.com.tr/seymour-her...ttack-in-syria/

Diken then interview both myself and Dan Kaszeta about that interview
http://www.diken.com.tr/brown-moses...for-the-rebels/
http://www.diken.com.tr/dan-kaszeta...acturing-sarin/

Funnily enough, I was at the ARIJ journalism festival in Jordan, and Seymour Hersh was going to appear the day after I left, so all the Syrian journalists and activists there were very keen on me battling to the death with him at some point, but disappointed to know I wouldn't be there. They apparently gave him a real grilling on the subject (after a lengthy deep dive discussion with me), or so they told me after I left. So I managed to get mild food poisoning from some Lebanese food, and the next morning I'm up, ready to take my flight out of Jordan, and I leave my room, and head to the elevators. Just then, an American who is behind me asks "excuse me, do you know where they serve breakfast?", and I turn around and it's Seymour Hersh. Obviously he doesn't recognise me, and I'm feeling way too ill and gassy to start any debates, so I just say, "yeah, downstairs, to your left", and take the lift down to the lobby. Although in fairness, if I had been fit and healthy I probably wouldn't have bothered anyway, especially not before breakfast.

As for Ted Postol, I keep meeting people from MIT who give me the impression he's seen as a fringe figure among his fellow academics, and it was me and Dan Kaszeta who got invited to the OPCW's anniversary event, not Hersh and Postol.

From what I read, their criticisms basically boiled down to "but somebody else could potentially have made those rockets and sarins and attacks. We have zero evidence for any of it, but it's not disproven so therefore you're wrong and also Obama wants a war against Assad". So four years of work and the criticism seems to add up to "nuh-uh". Impressive.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Friendly Humour posted:

From what I read, their criticisms basically boiled down to "but somebody else could potentially have made those rockets and sarins and attacks. We have zero evidence for any of it, but it's not disproven so therefore you're wrong and also Obama wants a war against Assad". So four years of work and the criticism seems to add up to "nuh-uh". Impressive.

We also know the exact type of rockets used in the attacks were used in previously chemical attacks against opposition held areas, and also the explosive version of the same rocket was used since late 2012, and is still photographed and filmed in use today. I've examined images of these in extremely close detail, down to the bolts and welds, and all past examples are identical in every way to the ones used on August 21st 2013. So it's not only a case of being able to make them, but make them to be perfect copies of the ones used in previous attacks.

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
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Brown Moses posted:

We also know the exact type of rockets used in the attacks were used in previously chemical attacks against opposition held areas, and also the explosive version of the same rocket was used since late 2012, and is still photographed and filmed in use today. I've examined images of these in extremely close detail, down to the bolts and welds, and all past examples are identical in every way to the ones used on August 21st 2013. So it's not only a case of being able to make them, but make them to be perfect copies of the ones used in previous attacks.

You can tell by some of the bolts and from having seen quite a few volcano rockets in your life.

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
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I guess it's easy to dismiss since your not even a real journalist and furthermore

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Brown Moses posted:

As for Ted Postol, I keep meeting people from MIT who give me the impression he's seen as a fringe figure among his fellow academics, and it was me and Dan Kaszeta who got invited to the OPCW's anniversary event, not Hersh and Postol.

There's a couple MIT professors like that, including a Computer Science professor with an unhealthy obsession with the dangers of GMOs, and MIT was previously funding work by the goofball who says that GMOs are dangerous and claims he invented email, but they cut him off.

Warbadger
Jun 17, 2006

Friendly Humour posted:

You can tell by some of the bolts and from having seen quite a few volcano rockets in your life.

Photos of a thing are actually a pretty good way to see a thing.

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
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Warbadger posted:

Photos of a thing are actually a pretty good way to see a thing.

That was a dumb meme post

bango skank
Jan 15, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Friendly Humour posted:

That was a dumb meme post

Would you say it was just a bit of... friendly humour? :downsrim:

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
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bango skank posted:

Would you say it was just a bit of... friendly humour? :downsrim:

:haw:

Chemtrail
Dec 29, 2008

WILL AMOUNT TO NOTHING IN LIFE.
The good friend of the thread, Graham Phillips, just got arrested in Latvia.

http://www.tvnet.lv/zinas/latvija/600437-16marta_pasakumos_aizturets_kremla_blogeris_greiems_filipss

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Chemtrail posted:

The good friend of the thread, Graham Phillips, just got arrested in Latvia.

http://www.tvnet.lv/zinas/latvija/600437-16marta_pasakumos_aizturets_kremla_blogeris_greiems_filipss
This is almost too good to be true. Quick translation would be him being a giant prick during the commemoration of Latvian Legion,, trying to incite and provoke the attendees, and to otherwise disrupt the event. Eventually got into problems with security officers, they summoned police, whom then he did also resist. He is being held by police now on the grounds of aggressive public behaviour and resisting the law enforcement officials, may get a fine and/or an administrative protocol (think of probation).

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

There's a live blog here
http://www.delfi.lv/news/national/p...s.d?id=47188319

Lots of talk about Nazis etc, whats the actual story?

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Brown Moses posted:

There's a live blog here
http://www.delfi.lv/news/national/p...s.d?id=47188319

Lots of talk about Nazis etc, whats the actual story?
It's the annual remembrance day of Latvian Waffen-SS legionnaires, where couple of people take a short morning stroll to Freedom Monument to put down flowers to their dead relatives, and sometimes comrades.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Brown Moses posted:

There's a live blog here
http://www.delfi.lv/news/national/p...s.d?id=47188319

Lots of talk about Nazis etc, whats the actual story?

I've got to say, for a march in remembrance of people who fought as a part of the Waffen-SS, the amount of nazi symbols is surprisingly low compared to November Russian Marches.

But it's still kind of high for my taste, I don't know.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

kalstrams posted:

It's the annual remembrance day of Latvian Waffen-SS legionnaires, where couple of people take a short morning stroll to Freedom Monument to put down flowers to their dead relatives, and sometimes comrades.

Yeah, seemed journalists and protesters outnumbered participants.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Brown Moses posted:

Yeah, seemed journalists and protesters outnumbered participants.
They always do, soon journalists alone will do the trick. I don't remember last time I saw more than a few hundred of participants.

a podcast for cats
Jun 22, 2005

Dogs reading from an artifact buried in the ruins of our civilization, "We were assholes- " and writing solemnly, "They were assholes."
Soiled Meat

Brown Moses posted:

There's a live blog here
http://www.delfi.lv/news/national/p...s.d?id=47188319

Lots of talk about Nazis etc, whats the actual story?

March 16. The annual controversy concerning the Remembrance day of the Latvian legionnaires. It's a fairly polarizing event and for a good reason. The controversy is caused by the legionnaires having been part of the foreign Waffen-SS, while the widely accepted view is that they were forcibly conscripted and were recognized as such by the Nuremberg tribunal. As you can imagine, the event is especially disliked by WWII vets who fought on the Soviet side and their descendants. That 'occupation vs. liberation' juxtaposition is one of the reasons why nationalists of both flavours are especially concerned about this.

kalstrams posted:

This is almost too good to be true. Quick translation would be him being a giant prick during the commemoration of Latvian Legion,, trying to incite and provoke the attendees, and to otherwise disrupt the event. Eventually got into problems with security officers, they summoned police, whom then he did also resist. He is being held by police now on the grounds of aggressive public behaviour and resisting the law enforcement officials, may get a fine and/or an administrative protocol (think of probation).

I'm skeptical and am pretty sure he was going for that to create a photo-op for his documentary, RT or internal consumption within Russia. The arrest will be spun to strengthen whatever case he's making and this will not be the last we see of it.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Just leaving this here

https://twitter.com/RobPulseNews/status/710076223418994688

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
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:allears:

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

https://twitter.com/GrahamWP_UK/status/710039960531894272

https://twitter.com/GrahamWP_UK/status/710041498730045440

Since that last tweet he's not posted for over 3 hours. I suspect they did arrest him after all.

VoltairePunk
Dec 26, 2012

I have become Umlaut, destroyer of words
He's actually livestreaming right now

https://www.periscope.tv/w/1lPKqjorbnlGb

Straight from the Police Station.


Edit: And it stopped. Right after someone telling him: "Hey, put your stuff down otherwise the police will do it by force." While he was "Call the British Embassy!!! I am from Great Britain! I am a journalist! This is restricting free speech!! Let me go!!!".

What a dweeb.

Edit 2:
Ah right, the stream is actually the last thing recorded. It all ended long ago. And I thought I was onto something...

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anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
I can't help but find his description as "FSB tool" way too amusing. I mean he's a tool alright and he works for the FSB but still...

BernieLomax
May 29, 2002

Brown Moses posted:

Sorry, thought I replied to this, Bellingcat is funded for the next year by a grant from Google, that funds me, Aric, and all the costs of running the site. We're also applying for other funding, mainly for specific projects

I just wanted was a T-shirt, and all I got was beautiful international fallout. Best "investment" I've made.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
If BM gets described as a CIA stooge, it's only fair that Phillips gets described as an FSB tool.

A Pale Horse
Jul 29, 2007


I just got a semi watching this. gently caress Graham Phillips and his Putin shilling bitch rear end.

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
Obama actually expressed interest in a political prisoner. I think that's the first time America calls Russia out on it but it's a case with a lot of media attention. I kinda doubt anything will come out of it, though.

anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Mar 16, 2016

Dusty Baker 2
Jul 8, 2011

Keyboard Inghimasi

He should be legally mandated to use air-quotes when he calls himself a journalist.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

https://twitter.com/DarthPutinKGB/status/710187247216238592

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/710228727217704960

Brown Moses fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Mar 16, 2016

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
Be careful BM, while this is fantastic yuk fodder, you run the risk of seeming salty if you do it too much. (also what's the music source?)

Xerxes17
Feb 17, 2011

The War Thunder music is a nice touch.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Xerxes17 posted:

The War Thunder music is a nice touch.
That's Beethoven's Symphony 7, Movement 2, by the way.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

They use it in Charlie Brooker's Newswipe as well.

Graham Phillips is saying he was thrown our of Latvia and has been banned from returning for 3 years, so much for his Baltics trip.

https://twitter.com/GrahamWP_UK/status/710326332123713536
https://twitter.com/GrahamWP_UK/status/710326988456763392

Meanwhile, here's Bellingcat's Aric Toler talking about MH17 at New America's Future of War conference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6jpVVTmeN0

Brown Moses fucked around with this message at 10:52 on Mar 17, 2016

Bates
Jun 15, 2006

Brown Moses posted:

They use it in Charlie Brooker's Newswipe as well.

Graham Phillips is saying he was thrown our of Latvia and has been banned from returning for 3 years, so much for his Baltics trip.

I've tried to figure out who this Graham Philips fella is but his Youtube channel is just videos of random eastern Europe road trip scenery or 2 min. interviews with random people. "Woman in a park says Russia might invade Poland!"

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evil_cheese
Sep 11, 2002
I AM A LIAR
Brown moses the youtube video of your speech on the last page is set to private for some reason.

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