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Lurdiak posted:Are there still people out there who think the JMS run was bad? Crazy world we live in. My opinion of it has lowered significantly since I have been diving into the original run on Marvel Unlimited.
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:So all the way to "Final Chapter"? I dunno if I want to go through the whole Clone Saga... I'll be honest the clone saga is a bit of a mess, but it has some good stuff scattered throughout. The biggest thing you may find annoying is they so not have the complete Peter Parker, Spetacular Spider-Man run up yet and that ties into Amazing a couple of times.
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Lurdiak posted:I coulda sworn that was one of the other titles. Sensational Parker-man or whatever. Nope. The canceled all the books and then launched Chapter One and a month later Amazing and Peter Parker. Mackie wrote both of those, Byrne drew Amazing, JR Jr drew PP.
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Mr Hootington posted:I'll be honest the clone saga is a bit of a mess, but it has some good stuff scattered throughout. Eh, I guess that's fair, plus knowing the story behind it will help. So outside of Mackie/Byrne after it gets rebooted there isn't really anything to avoid in the original run? just read the whole thing 'till it ends and hope that issues of the spin-off titles it connects to are also up?
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:Eh, I guess that's fair, plus knowing the story behind it will help. After Byrne leaves the books are a mess for years. They don't really recover until Big Time.
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:Eh, I guess that's fair, plus knowing the story behind it will help. I would say read it all. The biggest problem you will have is burn out so think of another series you will want to read. It really is astonishing to see how little of it was absolutely horrible story wise. Art can dip into eldritch horror territory during the '90s. Also annuals are not all up yet, but the biggest annual stories are up so not much to worry about there.
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Rhyno posted:After Byrne leaves the books are a mess for years. They don't really recover until Big Time. So you hated the Jenkin's run, jms, and brand new day? It was not good until Slott was the sole writer?
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bobkatt013 posted:So you hated the Jenkin's run, jms, and brand new day? It was not good until Slott was the sole writer? Jenkins never wrote on Amazing.
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bobkatt013 posted:So you hated the Jenkin's run, jms, and brand new day? It was not good until Slott was the sole writer? I meant BND sorry. It's been a long rear end day. Everything from Identity Crisis until Back in Black is very meh. JMS has a good first arc and that's about it. It returns to poo poo at Big Time.
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Mr Hootington posted:Jenkins never wrote on Amazing. I thought he was talking about the entire spider-man line. I remember Jenkin's having a pretty good Peter Parker run.
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At that point I did say "books" and I stand by it. Sure Jenks has some bright spots but Spider-man as a property is pretty bad for a long rear end time.
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bobkatt013 posted:I thought he was talking about the entire spider-man line. I remember Jenkin's having a pretty good Peter Parker run. If he is my mistakeThe other Spider-Mans are not completely up on MU yet and this started as Amazing chat: Same with DD and Punisher.
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Yeah sorry guys my irrational hatred of Back in Black and it's weaksauce ending overtook me. Edit: Seriously, you make a huge deal out of Pete putting the black suit back on because he's going to kill someone but then he pusses out but not before the Kingpin ransacks his own jail cell and there's somehow enough rolls of hidden cash to fill a giant loving sack so he can bribe the guards into not interfering with his fist fight with the guy who's beaten up the Hulk in the past. Edit 2: and let's not forget this isn't even the first time Aunt May is dying but no wait that was a loving actress because gently caress you we can't even admit that the clone saga existed for even a second except no wait it's 5 years later the Clone Saga totes did happen. Edit 3: Or haha how about that time the Green Goblin tells Peter that he almost called himself "Mister Coffee." drat it Jenkins what the christ were you thinking. Rhyno fucked around with this message at 07:33 on Mar 27, 2016 |
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Back in Black is so sad because you know the writers were basically forced into a corner by what they knew was coming.
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Lurdiak posted:Back in Black is so sad because you know the writers were basically forced into a corner by what they knew was coming. I loving hate it so much. They promised us at the retailer summit that the black costume had a real purpose, that Peter put it on because he knew he was going to kill the person who tried to kill May. And then they change it to "Oh he's wearing black because he's in mourning except she didn't die but it's okay you totally mourn people before they die it's totally natural." And then he fights the Kingpin in the middle of a cellblock with no shirt.
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# ? Mar 27, 2016 07:41 |
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It totally has nothing to do with the movie that is coming out where he has the black costume
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bobkatt013 posted:It totally has nothing to do with the movie that is coming out where he has the black costume Hey, it's not my fault they tried to pull some loving bullshit movie synergy. It also doesn't excuse that stupid giant sack of money.
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Rhyno posted:After Byrne leaves the books are a mess for years. They don't really recover until Big Time. It was solid during JMS now it's a mess as they really don't know what to do with the guy.
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Rhyno posted:I loving hate it so much. They promised us at the retailer summit that the black costume had a real purpose, that Peter put it on because he knew he was going to kill the person who tried to kill May. And then they change it to "Oh he's wearing black because he's in mourning except she didn't die but it's okay you totally mourn people before they die it's totally natural." To be fair, the fight where he kicks the complete and total poo poo out of Kingpin was awesome. Also it did end with him saying 'I AM going to kill you, but only when May actually dies.' Of course, then Satan intervened. I've seen people say that if not for OMD, Back In Black was the setup for Peter Parker's last stand from ASM 500. Yvonmukluk fucked around with this message at 09:14 on Mar 27, 2016 |
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Dunno how everyone else found it but as the parent of a 3 week old baby Spiderwoman #5 was pretty loving amazing
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:So outside of Mackie/Byrne after it gets rebooted there isn't really anything to avoid in the original run? just read the whole thing 'till it ends and hope that issues of the spin-off titles it connects to are also up? David Michelinie's run is a bit of a mixed bag (though it was a really long one - second longest run on Amazing after Stan Lee until Dan Slott overtook him).
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Dunno how everyone else found it but as the parent of a 3 week old baby Spiderwoman #5 was pretty loving amazing Congrats!
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So, I'm thinking of jumping back into comics after taking a couple of years off (I stopped buying comics when Secret Warriors ended. (Goddamn, how good was Secret Warrirors?)) I have Marvel Unlimited and I'm catching up. Generally, my tastes line up with BSS and I'm thinking of picking up 5 books a month. Any suggestions?
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MonsterWalk posted:So, I'm thinking of jumping back into comics after taking a couple of years off (I stopped buying comics when Secret Warriors ended. (Goddamn, how good was Secret Warrirors?)) I have Marvel Unlimited and I'm catching up. 2) To clarify, are you looking to start buying current weekly books in addition to the back catalog on Unlimited? If so, are these limited to Marvel, or are you accepting recommendations across publishers? Is it the "new monthly book I can follow along" thing important, or could it be something from the past couple of years you may have missed? Or is this more of a "what All New All Different Marvel should i read?" All of these questions are asked solely so you can get better suggestions and avoid two straight pages of lists with no elaboration and "IF YOU'RE NOT READING MODOK WACKY RACES STRAIGHT UP KILL URSELF"
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# ? Mar 27, 2016 14:35 |
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Ultimates #6 was so good. Ewing reads a lot of stuff and really brings a lot of different writers ideas into this book. Thanos coming back, now in love with non-existence/nothingness instead of Death is brilliant. Eternity in chains by some unknown force, brilliant.
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MonsterWalk posted:So, I'm thinking of jumping back into comics after taking a couple of years off (I stopped buying comics when Secret Warriors ended. (Goddamn, how good was Secret Warrirors?)) I have Marvel Unlimited and I'm catching up. Here are my five post-2010 comics to try: Follow Jonathan Hickman from Secret Warriors into Fantastic Four (then later on, Avengers/New Avengers/Infinity/Secret Wars), Uncanny X-Force by Rick Remender, Thor: God of Thunder by Jason Aaron, Hawkeye by Matt Fraction, and Daredevil by Mark Waid e: Or do you mean you want five current comics to follow? Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Mar 27, 2016 |
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Everyone in BSS loves Nextwave so you should totes read Nextwave.
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# ? Mar 27, 2016 16:55 |
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Here is a handy guide to understanding the trademark BSS recommendation style.
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# ? Mar 27, 2016 17:10 |
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Start with James Tynion's Red Hood and the Outlaws.
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I think Fear Itself is good. You should read it. And every single tie-in.
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No way, as far as events go, you can't beat Age of Ultron.
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# ? Mar 27, 2016 17:22 |
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Actually the majority of BSS does like Nextwave since it's a well written, beautifully drawn and very enjoyable series.
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# ? Mar 27, 2016 17:27 |
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I can't believe Rhyno hates Nextwave and is using it as a sarcastic recommendation.
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WickedHate posted:I can't believe Rhyno hates Nextwave and is using it as a sarcastic recommendation. I don't hate it. The OP has gone on record a hundred times that it's poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo gently caress YOU FOR LIKING IT though.
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Rhyno posted:I don't hate it. The OP has gone on record a hundred times that it's poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo poo gently caress YOU FOR LIKING IT though. More likely he wrote a 50,000 word thesis, containing biographically relevant information on everyone involves, fully sourced quote from leading scholars on the matter and a link to the mythbusters episode where they "bust" they myth of it being good. The next post after that was "Nextwave is good." and was majorly agreed with.
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loving finally, I was worried when this thread made it six pages without a good old fashioned BSS pissing match.
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PaybackJack posted:More likely he wrote a 50,000 word thesis, containing biographically relevant information on everyone involves, fully sourced quote from leading scholars on the matter and a link to the mythbusters episode where they "bust" they myth of it being good. You forgot about the bibliography of the creators that fully details how they lick goats.
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Rhyno posted:You forgot about the bibliography of the creators that fully details how they lick goats. Those are inferences made by a few angry nerds based on twitter comments and have never been fully substantianted. If you can find one single reference of anything posted by the creator where in he details the exact sequence of events from tongue to goat, I'll include it. Until then, it's hearsay and has no place in a reputable internet discussion. Mr. Maltose posted:loving finally, I was worried when this thread made it six pages without a good old fashioned BSS pissing match. I tease. I like E&C but we did just go through this at the end of the last thread so some ribbing is in order.
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Mr. Maltose posted:loving finally, I was worried when this thread made it six pages without a good old fashioned BSS pissing match. Did you already forget the callout/response from the first page? The piss, it is everywhere.
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Let's be real that didn't even register because it was two posts and a mod sensibly stepping in. I'm not going to be the one to devalue the BSS piss brand.
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