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I'm of the theory that Big Boss is literally the only person in the world that Ocelot is attracted to
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How could you not be though
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Apr 6, 2016 04:34
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Big Boss shows Ocelot up in Russia in 1964, and he's been all "Senpai please notice me" ever since.
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Apr 6, 2016 04:35
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Ocelot being in love with Big Boss isn't subtext. It's Text. Ocelot explicitly says it in TPP.
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Apr 6, 2016 04:48
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beep by grandpa posted:Ocelot is not loving gay. This is not up for debate. You're joking, right? Ocelot is the gayest character in a pretty gay series.
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Apr 6, 2016 04:59
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Simsmagic posted:How could you not be though
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Apr 6, 2016 05:02
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Simsmagic posted:How could you not be though Most people who meet BB fall in love with him, but unfortunately he only has eyes for cardboard boxes and guns.
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Apr 6, 2016 05:14
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Spalec posted:Ocelot being in love with Big Boss isn't subtext. It's Text. Ocelot explicitly says it in TPP. Doesn't he explicitly say that he's in love with the legend of Big Boss?
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Apr 6, 2016 05:31
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The "legend" being his penis.
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Apr 6, 2016 05:35
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RatHat posted:Sort of. At the end of Phantom Pain you learn he was poisoned by Skullface while Big Boss was in a coma and was slowly becoming a vegetable. At the time the game takes place he was already effectively "dead". The Patriots were being run by Sigint/the AIs by that point. beep by grandpa posted:I've been really enjoying the Metal Gear lore these last few days everyone, keep it up, but I just want to make something crystal clear here with the speculation before it gets too outta hand.
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Apr 6, 2016 05:38
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Sapient Afro posted:I'm of the theory that Big Boss is literally the only person in the world that Ocelot is attracted to This is most likely. Ocelot is neither gay, straight, or bi. He is Big Boss-sexual.
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Apr 6, 2016 05:47
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Scalding Coffee posted:The "legend" being his penis. Now go, let the legend come back to life!
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Apr 6, 2016 06:07
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Accordion Man posted:MGS5 just really sounds like Kojima just gave up on the series and just went genuine stupid instead of the series' usual fun stupid. I might play the game one day, but I don't really feel compelled to anymore. Plot woes aside, MGS5 is the best game in the series. Hell, I'd even rate the cutscenes as some of the best in the series, it's just that there's so few of them. Most of the really stupid plot points are relegated to tapes you can listen to while you do other stuff.
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Apr 6, 2016 08:23
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MGS5 is fantastic. It has some issues(like all Metal Gear games) but the main problem is it's unfinished. The whole resolution to Eli and Mantis' story was cut.
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Apr 6, 2016 08:25
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RatHat posted:MGS5 is fantastic. It has some issues(like all Metal Gear games) but the main problem is it's unfinished. The whole resolution to Eli and Mantis' story was cut.
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Apr 6, 2016 08:59
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Zereth posted:That was confirmed as being Mantis then? (I never got around to finishing but I kinda don't care about doing so anymore) The remains of Mission 52, the intended conclusion, doesn't really confirm it, but it makes more sense than anything else. He saved Eli from both a napalm strike and death by parasite, leaving them alone on an island together. He was also the only reason Sahelanthropus was moving at all; the thing wasn't mechanically capable of supporting its own weight, so that was all telekinesis, one of Mantis' powers otherwise unexhibited by the child. It's still technically possible that kid wasn't Psycho Mantis, but it would be a bigger reach if it wasn't him than if it was.
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Apr 6, 2016 09:39
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Cleretic posted:The remains of Mission 52, the intended conclusion, doesn't really confirm it, but it makes more sense than anything else. The game never explicitly says "Yo, Tretij is Psycho Mantis" but he is. His theme song is called "Angering Mantis" on the soundtrack, Kojima called him Man-Chan when revealing his Play Arts Kai figure on Twitter, and one of the tapes in the game from Ocelot mentions the use of the gas mask to shield his mind from outside influence. If the kid isn't Psycho Mantis, I don't know what the hell he could be.
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Apr 6, 2016 15:06
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HOOLY BOOLY posted:Well that's Liquid being gay vicariously through Ocelot. You assumingly beat the hypnosis off of Ocelot right before he dies? So it technically wasn't him. Pretty certain it's just Ocelot at that point. You've already beaten the hypnosis out of him in the first two stages of that fight (Liquid and Liquid Ocelot.)
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Apr 6, 2016 15:13
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I love how Big Boss continues to always be the best at everything. They explain Mantis' powers get activated and controlled by anger and hate, and in one of the logs they say that power was dormant until BB wakes up from his coma and his anger was so powerful that it awoke Mantis' powers from miles away.
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Apr 6, 2016 19:29
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Spiritus Nox posted:You're joking, right? Ocelot is the gayest character in a pretty gay series. Ocelot is gay as all hell, but you are saying he is more gay than Vamp. *links Vamp v Raiden fight*
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Apr 7, 2016 15:16
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Lid posted:Ocelot is gay as all hell, but you are saying he is more gay than Vamp. Isn't there a codec conversation in MGS2 that explicitly states that Vamp is bisexual?
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Apr 7, 2016 15:55
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Zereth posted:Isn't there a codec conversation in MGS2 that explicitly states that Vamp is bisexual? Isn't that why he's called Vamp? Instead of because of him being a literal vampire?
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Apr 7, 2016 16:01
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Lid posted:Ocelot is gay as all hell, but you are saying he is more gay than Vamp. I think it's a fair assessment, actually.
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Apr 7, 2016 16:03
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Zereth posted:Isn't there a codec conversation in MGS2 that explicitly states that Vamp is bisexual? I don't know the exact scenes or conversations its mentioned in but before ( or possibly even concurrent with ) his relationship with Fortune he was in one with her father. Yes he's bisexual.
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Apr 7, 2016 16:06
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Raiden: okay, he's an ageless superman who drinks blood, was impaled by a cross, has superhuman strength, speed and is from Romania, I see that's why they call him Vamp... Snake: no u fuckin retard they call him VAMP cause he's a bisexual MGS2 owns
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Apr 7, 2016 16:53
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MGS2 is the best MGS. Granted, I've only experienced Metal Gear through Chip Cheezum LPs, so that might skew me a bit, but what a wild ride. LPs are a very different experience because it already feels like watching a TV show so there's no difference between gameplay and cutscene. Probably why I enjoyed MGS4 so much...listening to Chip and Ironicus take the piss out of 90 minute cutscenes was very entertaining, probably far more so than to actually play that game.
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Apr 8, 2016 00:28
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MGS 3 is the best - the way all the different elements come together in the game: the story, the mechanics, the level design, the endless little touches and easter eggs. It's still an incredible game. MGS V is better from a techinal view, but the way MGS 3 tells its story through the world it creates - incredible game design.
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Apr 8, 2016 00:54
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You can throw snakes at men while they're distracted by porn. Also The Boss. MGS3 is the best metal gear.
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Apr 8, 2016 01:01
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Geemer posted:Isn't that why he's called Vamp? Instead of because of him being a literal vampire?
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Apr 8, 2016 01:06
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OldMemes posted:MGS 3 is the best - the way all the different elements come together in the game: the story, the mechanics, the level design, the endless little touches and easter eggs. It's still an incredible game. MGS V is better from a techinal view, but the way MGS 3 tells its story through the world it creates - incredible game design. MGS3 certainly has the most restrained and IMO strongest writing. I'm saying this about a game with a man who turns bees into machine guns and a Russian who is a lightning wizard.
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Apr 8, 2016 03:02
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3 is the best overall package, 5 is the most fun to actually play. phantom pain dropped the ball on some things, but it's mechanically one of the best stealth games ever made
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Apr 8, 2016 03:25
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OldMemes posted:MGS 3 is the best - the way all the different elements come together in the game: the story, the mechanics, the level design, the endless little touches and easter eggs. It's still an incredible game. MGS V is better from a techinal view, but the way MGS 3 tells its story through the world it creates - incredible game design. This is how I feel. It's got what feels like more gameplay than 1 and 2 did (definitely more than 4, which literally has more cutscenes than gameplay) and some unique features to the series like the eating. It's also got the most rockin' theme song of the whole series.
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Apr 8, 2016 04:04
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There is a new Pittsburgh Watchdog app where you can use your phone to become a vigilante on finding fraud. Sadly, no underscore.
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Apr 8, 2016 04:08
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chitoryu12 posted:This is how I feel. It's got what feels like more gameplay than 1 and 2 did (definitely more than 4, which literally has more cutscenes than gameplay) and some unique features to the series like the eating. It's also got the most rockin' theme song of the whole series.
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Apr 8, 2016 04:27
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Zereth posted:I'm pretty sure I got asked to save twice during a series of cutscenes in MGS4 that weren't interrupted by any gameplay whatsoever, not even "now walk five feet" technically giving me control back stuff. Probably during the Eva infodump after the already fairly uninteresting city section. You definitely get a save in the middle somewhere, and I seem to recall you get another towards the end before the lead-in to the bike chase starts.
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Apr 8, 2016 04:35
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Act 3 is where I gave up playing MGS4 myself, to be honest. After the not so interesting sneaking and an hour long cutscene that I had to save in the middle of, any momentum I had for the game was killed. Which apparently was the wrong thing to do because having watched Chip's LP I quit pretty might right before the game gets really good.
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Apr 8, 2016 04:45
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kalonZombie posted:Act 3 is where I gave up playing MGS4 myself, to be honest. After the not so interesting sneaking and an hour long cutscene that I had to save in the middle of, any momentum I had for the game was killed. Which apparently was the wrong thing to do because having watched Chip's LP I quit pretty might right before the game gets really good. Act 3 is a lot of things. Well-paced is not one of them. Actually, it's a lot of not-great things. Some good things, most definitely. But a lot of the not-good things in the game are here.
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Apr 8, 2016 04:50
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On an unrelated note: I'm somewhat baffled Konami still hasn't ever released 4 on anything but PS, considering how much of the rest of the series they ported over or designed for from the start.
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Apr 8, 2016 06:58
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Regalingualius posted:On an unrelated note: I'm somewhat baffled Konami still hasn't ever released 4 on anything but PS, considering how much of the rest of the series they ported over or designed for from the start. But then how would they get that sweet joke about disc swapping in, huh? You gonna pay Christopher Randolph to come in and record 4th wall breaking gag lines about the 360/PS4/Xbox one's processors? That would take forever.
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Apr 8, 2016 07:34
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TwoPair posted:But then how would they get that sweet joke about disc swapping in, huh? You gonna pay Christopher Randolph to come in and record 4th wall breaking gag lines about the 360/PS4/Xbox one's processors? That would take forever. Yeah, honestly it's reasons like that that MGS4 never hit any other consoles. There's a lot of really minor bits to the whole experience that being on a PS3 is crucial to; that line, Mantis' bits about the hardware, Mk. III being controlled by a Dualshock. The flashback to MGS1 just before Act 4 requires a working PS1 emulator, too. Replacing or removing any of that would require more effort than most companies that actually wanted to do that would go through, and this is Konami we're talking about.
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