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Chip Cheezum posted:I banish this t-rex armed hacker man and summon a new update where a tiny bit of plot happens! Rock Thunderheart sounds like a Flintstones character.
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Chip Cheezum posted:I banish this t-rex armed hacker man and summon a new update where a tiny bit of plot happens!  I never knew about that alternate "ending", holy gently caress that's brutal ADA. drat this LP made me really start to love her when I just completely hated her in first starting this game years ago.
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May 4, 2016 17:24
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I mean none of the characters have been all that good but ADA is great for spending much of the game making GBS threads on Leo.
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May 4, 2016 17:32
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I actually feel for Leo in this game. He's just 14-15 y/o boy who's had a lovely, lovely life and damnit, I gotta give him tons of credit for having the balls to disobey orders and consistently stick to his guns about not killing anybody right to Elena's face and all the while gettin sassed by a killer rear end in a top hat AI the whole time. Kid's got an iron will.
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May 4, 2016 17:54
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beep by grandpa posted:I actually feel for Leo in this game. He's just 14-15 y/o boy who's had a lovely, lovely life and damnit, I gotta give him tons of credit for having the balls to disobey orders and consistently stick to his guns about not killing anybody right to Elena's face and all the while gettin sassed by a killer rear end in a top hat AI the whole time. Kid's got an iron will.
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May 4, 2016 18:00
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Rock Thunderheart is pretty notmal for a gundam-style name. It's no Bring Stabity.
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May 4, 2016 18:05
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This is as far as I got in my playthrough back in the day. I beat Neith, but got stuck in the next area for some reason. And wow. I really never knew that this alternate ending even existed. That's amazing.
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May 4, 2016 18:06
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So, Celvice basically only existed to have someone besides ADA for Leo to talk to and to fill a fridge so we can see how goddamn crazy Viola is, eh?
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May 4, 2016 18:07
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Night10194 posted:So, Celvice basically only existed to have someone besides ADA for Leo to talk to and to fill a fridge so we can see how goddamn crazy Viola is, eh? Well, and to give us the awesome hint "I saw one somewhere! I won't tell you where though!" when we had to find the raptor. I'll admit it took me forever even though the camera pans over it because I thought that one was too destroyed to use  
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May 4, 2016 18:12
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Funny how you guys mention all the Evangelion stuff since this game feels like it was trying to lift specific things from Eva's plot. Also, that bad ending is a bit of a surprise though I should've expected it from Hideo Kojima.
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May 4, 2016 18:22
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May 4, 2016 18:25
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MonsieurChoc posted:Rock Thunderheart is pretty notmal for a gundam-style name. It's no Bring Stabity. Don't forget the Gundam classic names such as: Paptimus Scirocco, Jamitov Hymen, Quattro Bajeena, Bright Noa, Sleggar Law, Lockon Stratos, Kacricon Cacooler... well there's lots. I like Gundam a bunch and i've seen tons of it's influence in ZOE already.
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May 4, 2016 18:26
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Zortzico posted:Don't forget the Gundam classic names such as: Paptimus Scirocco, Jamitov Hymen, Quattro Bajeena, Bright Noa, Sleggar Law, Lockon Stratos, Kacricon Cacooler... well there's lots. Gym Gingham! Ribbons Atmark! Wootbit Gunhale! It's like someone watched the Space Mutiny episode of MST3K and started taking notes.
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May 4, 2016 19:03
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Hilling Care
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May 4, 2016 19:07
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Kaboom Dragoon posted:Gym Gingham! Bask Om!
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May 4, 2016 19:09
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Zortzico posted:Don't forget the Gundam classic names such as: Paptimus Scirocco, Jamitov Hymen, Quattro Bajeena, Bright Noa, Sleggar Law, Lockon Stratos, Kacricon Cacooler... well there's lots. Excuse you, it's Quattro Vagina. And, on that subject, how you could forget about FULL FRONTAL!
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May 4, 2016 19:13
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It's funny, but when Tyrant transforms, he looks a lot like the Shagohod.
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May 4, 2016 19:16
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Brunom1 posted:Excuse you, it's Quattro Vagina. Rolla Roller, or whatever the alias name was in Turn-A
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May 4, 2016 19:25
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Kaboom Dragoon posted:Gym Gingham! Damnit, beat me too it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFHlJ2voJHY
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May 4, 2016 19:29
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Night10194 posted:So, Celvice basically only existed to have someone besides ADA for Leo to talk to and to fill a fridge so we can see how goddamn crazy Viola is, eh? I was going to say the same thing. Celvice is a pointless character, but at least she isn't as annoying as Leo. I can understand Leo's objection to killing. It is a very real world response, but that is the problem because ZOE is a game, one about crazy cool robot fighting in space. If I want to play a game about piloting a fighting robot then I don't want to be told every cutscene that my character hates piloting a fighting robot. It is extremely annoying to have a protagonist that is constantly whining about the core concept of the game he is in.
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May 4, 2016 19:54
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Kurieg posted:I think the "backstage areas" are because there aren't actually mountains on the space colony, they're just stone or a stone-alike attached to a superstructure so the people living on the colony can have pretty mountains. The fact that there's a lake up there too leads me to believe that the colony might be big enough that it has it's own water cycle, and if that's the case then having mountains would definitely help that but having several tons of solid rock on a space colony isn't precisely necessary. Nah, I think Antilia station is actually Disneyland Jupiter.
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SweaterGear posted:I was going to say the same thing. Celvice is a pointless character, but at least she isn't as annoying as Leo. I can understand Leo's objection to killing. It is a very real world response, but that is the problem because ZOE is a game, one about crazy cool robot fighting in space. If I want to play a game about piloting a fighting robot then I don't want to be told every cutscene that my character hates piloting a fighting robot. It is extremely annoying to have a protagonist that is constantly whining about the core concept of the game he is in. Not to mention gets an 'out' so that he can play around and fight unmanned robits while keeping his hands clean.
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May 4, 2016 20:10
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For what its worth, I can kind of see Tyrant as looking like a cuttlefish, at least once it transforms.
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May 4, 2016 20:19
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General Ironicus posted:Nah, I think Antilia station is actually Disneyland Jupiter. If so then their rides leave something to be desired. I'm pretty sure whoever came up with the "Teacup Ride Through A Microwave" ride was fired. It's a world of gasses, a world of fears It's a world with massive gravitational shear If we ever fall down, we will find there's no ground It's a huge world after all.
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May 4, 2016 20:20
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That reminds me of Golden Sun where you can end the game super early if you say no to taking the quest to save the world.
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May 4, 2016 20:35
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There's nothing that'll get me laughing quicker than "Flashback to 30 seconds ago" Also, when Viola appears in that last cutscene there are some extremely MGS2 musical stings.
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May 4, 2016 20:55
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I'm really enjoying the music in this game. It's so good.
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May 4, 2016 21:51
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The Factory theme is my favorite in the first game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23MD3acnz4A
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May 4, 2016 22:05
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The conflict in the game's universe is ill-defined at this point, there's a dude named Rock Thunderheart, and all the robots have dicks, but the music has always made it feel to me like something really big was happening. The theme kicking in when Leo gets in Jehuty at the end of this episode is really great, too.
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May 4, 2016 22:07
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I wonder why the mouth animations are so bad when this is supposed to be a tech demo for MGS2 Weird thought, Viola and Random Hajile would make a cute couple
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May 4, 2016 22:37
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The aesthetics of it all are definitely the first game's strongest point. Art direction, animation, mech design...maybe not character design, but everything else about how the production looks and sounds is top-notch, for drat sure.
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Chip Cheezum posted:The theme kicking in when Leo gets in Jehuty at the end of this episode is really great, too. YES. I can't wait to post more about this once you get to the ending. By the way about the bad ending there, one thing I have a very strong memory of was browsing the old Konami boards back when I was like 15 looking at the ZOE1 stuff, there were tons of posts about how to get the bad ending and is there a bad ending, etc. There was some Konami employee (maybe what's known as a community manager now or whatever?) who would reply to everyone and I will NEVER EVER forget their response to inquiries about the bad ending: "We do not recommend achieving the bad ending for this game. It is extremely unpleasant." 
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May 4, 2016 22:40
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Celvice acting like Leo just failed at Crazy Taxi was great
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May 4, 2016 22:43
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Liking the voice-break Ada had there
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May 4, 2016 22:45
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Sinners Sandwich posted:I wonder why the mouth animations are so bad when this is supposed to be a tech demo for MGS2 Pretty sure it took till MGS4 to get decent lip movements.
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May 4, 2016 23:09
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Oh yeah, another thing, that Bulb boss could have been straight out of Star Fox 64 but just sped up
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May 4, 2016 23:10
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Sinners Sandwich posted:I wonder why the mouth animations are so bad when this is supposed to be a tech demo for MGS2 Maybe they're lip synced to Japanese only?
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May 4, 2016 23:14
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MGS3 did not have english lip sync either and all of its cutscenes were in-engine, all of ZOE1's are prerendered.
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May 4, 2016 23:27
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A bit late, I don't know if it's been mentioned yet, or how well known it is, but the song that plays at the title screen, and played when ADA was cleaning out that virus is a backwards version of Flowing Destiny. I never hear anyone talk about it, it's a neat touch  It also fits well thematically when used during the final boss fight
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I think you should save that tidbit for the ending since that's when we hear the actual song and the sample that is used for what you're talking about.
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