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Darth Walrus posted:Chill bearded officer guy seems more likely. Mohawk seems more like an uptight, out-of-his-depth Bright Noa character who'll be required to take command after poo poo goes sideways. Mikumo, though? Yeah, odds are slim on her making it to the end of the series (on the heroes' side, at least). She's just too vast a presence for a secondary character. I dunno, Messer doesn't seem out of his depth to me. He's the most professional and together of all of Delta squadron. He just seems like he doesn't grasp the overarching point of Magic Macross Music at all, given that his immediate response to the controlled Spacy troops was "loving kill them all, they knew the risks" and he has absolutely no loving time for people having fun with music at any point because this is war. To me that's a definite setup for him to catch the VAR(they had some very clear setup for this with him groaning and clutching his head a lot when the Evil Space Prince began singing) and then be saved by Magic Macross Music and start to grasp the actual point of the music besides "This is pretty good for stopping Space Riots". I could see Mikumo hanging around in a cryptic advisory sort of role, but for her to fit that bill she's going to need to scale back her direct interventions in events because it's going to be hard for the other characters to shine if she keeps getting the ball rolling on fixing everything for them.
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May 7, 2016 14:09
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Kanos posted:I could see Mikumo hanging around in a cryptic advisory sort of role, but for her to fit that bill she's going to need to scale back her direct interventions in events because it's going to be hard for the other characters to shine if she keeps getting the ball rolling on fixing everything for them. They could easily throw something in with Mikumo's fold waves being weaker than the rest once Freyja's got a grasp on things. Mikumo then is more about coordinating the folks pulling the real weight.
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May 7, 2016 14:11
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Mikumo and Freyja are the only ones who can generate fold waves at all without loads of mechanical assistance.
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May 7, 2016 15:20
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At least eps 4 and 5 actually help me want to keep watching. Depending on how they went I was possibly gonna quit. So now there is some semblance of THIS IS WHAT THE SHOW IS ABOUT. If it wasn't a Macross show I probably wouldn't have even made it this far though. Everyone still acts kind of weird however. I know this is both anime and Macross so things got really nutters back in the mid 90s and all but.. being able to relate and understand the actions of your characters is a good thing IMHO.
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May 7, 2016 21:25
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Captain Rufus posted:At least eps 4 and 5 actually help me want to keep watching. Depending on how they went I was possibly gonna quit. I don't have trouble relating to anyone in this show. edit: except for the characters who's motivation we aren't supposed to know that is.
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May 7, 2016 21:36
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I'm not really sure how any of the characters in this show are supposed to be unrelatable. Hell if anything, they're all kinda cookie cutter.
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May 7, 2016 21:45
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Captain Rufus posted:Everyone still acts kind of weird however. I know this is both anime and Macross so things got really nutters back in the mid 90s and all but.. being able to relate and understand the actions of your characters is a good thing IMHO. Who acts weird besides Mikumo, who is intentionally intended to be The Mysterious One? Hayate: Snotty kid who finally found something he likes doing in life after drifting for a while. Has problems with authority, tends to do whatever he feels like without considering consequences. Freyja: Up and coming newbie singer with magic powers. Mirage: By-the-book pilot with a huge familial legacy to live up to. Messer: By-the-book pilot, stickler for regulations, very combat-focused, has a goddamn grim reaper on his plane. The Bad Guys: Believe themselves to have been wronged by the Spacy government, seek to fight a war of independence by manipulating the Var syndrome with alien artifacts and music in order to compensate for the gigantic gap in military strength. Nobody else has really had enough screentime with us yet for us to care about them. Kanos fucked around with this message at 23:11 on May 7, 2016 |
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May 7, 2016 23:06
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The more I think about it the more I think Hayate is kind of a poor man's Isamu; "problems with authority, tends to do whatever he feels like without considering consequences" is basically him to a T as well but man was he far more entertaining/charismatic to watch than this punk.
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May 8, 2016 10:57
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That kind of describes Basara too. It even kind of describes the lead in Zero really, considering he didn't care about any of his co-pilots and just piloted however he wanted at the beginning. I guess Kawamori just likes that kind of character.
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May 8, 2016 17:17
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"Dickhead who acts impulsively and doesn't like authority" is one of the most common protagonist tropes in anime.
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May 8, 2016 18:06
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May 8, 2016 21:50
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Cuuute
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May 8, 2016 22:59
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http://i.imgur.com/JnJCh7Z.gifv
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May 9, 2016 00:09
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dude dude Episode six is the poo poo. https://cdn.streamable.com/video/mp4/7wyp.mp4 a kitten fucked around with this message at 05:13 on May 9, 2016 |
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May 9, 2016 04:50
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It was very very Macross. Also, I stand by my theory that Mikumo is a robot who does not understand human emotions. Next episode: Mirage with animal ears. We haven't reached peak anime/Macross, but we're trying!
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May 9, 2016 05:25
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That was a really great episode. Messer revealing that he's intentionally playing Bad Cop instead of just being a huge toolbox makes him an instantly more likeable character, more Space Magic Music, and Hayate and Mirage actually developing a relationship besides "Hayate does something stupid, Mirage gets mad" are all excellent things.
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May 9, 2016 09:53
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Think messer is going to bite the dust
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May 9, 2016 10:19
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Messer seems to have done an impressive job of kicking the jerk out of Hayate, and for that, I thank him.
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May 9, 2016 10:24
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Kanos posted:That was a really great episode. Messer revealing that he's intentionally playing Bad Cop instead of just being a huge toolbox makes him an instantly more likeable character, more Space Magic Music, and Hayate and Mirage actually developing a relationship besides "Hayate does something stupid, Mirage gets mad" are all excellent things. I don't think it made a huge difference to be honest, cause he's still just as stiff and formal with everyone else that he's not trying to make a better pilot. Arad and Kaname tried to be nice to him after that reveal and he just stone-walled them and walked off. There's presumably something bad in his backstory, but until it's revealed he's still a tool to me. I was more interested in what caused the scarring on Windermere and the fact that the Prince seemed to be singing at ruins on another planets for some reason. Also, Keith seems far more invested in making this war a personal matter and killing people than anyone else.
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May 9, 2016 13:26
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RIP Bellri.
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May 9, 2016 17:57
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a kitten posted:
Whoa, Osomatsu! (And some macross girls on the cover too).
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May 9, 2016 18:56
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tsob posted:I don't think it made a huge difference to be honest, cause he's still just as stiff and formal with everyone else that he's not trying to make a better pilot. Arad and Kaname tried to be nice to him after that reveal and he just stone-walled them and walked off. There's presumably something bad in his backstory, but until it's revealed he's still a tool to me. I was more interested in what caused the scarring on Windermere and the fact that the Prince seemed to be singing at ruins on another planets for some reason. Also, Keith seems far more invested in making this war a personal matter and killing people than anyone else. Yeah, Messer is definitely still a big jerk, it's just nice that there's a glimmer of something besides contempt in there to flesh out the character. He definitely has a long way to go before he's a Cool Dude, but by all appearances he's going to be getting a fair amount of story focus so it's okay that he's not a nice guy yet. Keith looks like a straight up revenge story. Whatever conflict has the Windermerians so pissed at the Spacy probably involved their planet getting hosed up, so Keith wants blood vengeance. The ruins the prince was singing to looked like the alien artifact room on Windermere itself, so I would bet they're some kind of relay stations for the Var Control Song.
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May 9, 2016 19:47
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After the whole speech about Hayate and Mirage only shooting to disable rather then kill, I'm guessing Messer will get Var'd and Hayate will end up saving him doing what he got scolded for. Whatever that will make him more nicer or go on the whole "you should have totally killed me" will be a different thing.
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May 9, 2016 20:11
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They got new orders from lady M? Mikumo, don't pretend it's not you.
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May 10, 2016 00:38
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I hope it's Minmei.
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May 10, 2016 00:49
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Myung needed to find a new career.
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May 10, 2016 00:50
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trucutru posted:They got new orders from lady M? Mikumo, don't pretend it's not you. I don't think they're hiding that at all. They referred to her as that to her face earlier.
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May 10, 2016 00:56
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Mokinokaro posted:I don't think they're hiding that at all. They referred to her as that to her face earlier. Yeah, but normally you just don't stand there when somebody else is relaying your orders. Can't she just put her hair in battle-mode (looks better that way anyways) and just tell them directly?
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May 10, 2016 01:15
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a kitten posted:I hope it's Minmei. The SDF-1 was lost en-route to the center of the Galaxy. Not destroyed necessarily - it literally up and disappeared, getting lost. It's not likely to be found either with Minmei's VA not having any real love for the role and Hikaru's having commit suicide. Lady M is more likely to be Mylene if it's a previously featured character. That said, I don't recall Mikumo being referred to as Lady M, but I could easily have forgotten it. She doesn't make sense to me though, since she never acts in command of even Walkure (that's Kaname), never mind Delta Squad too.
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May 10, 2016 01:37
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I'm pretty sure that Kawamori has said he has no interest in revisiting those characters in any case, even without those rather huge reasons. To be perfectly honest i'm fine with just wondering what happened to them forever, even if i occasionally say stuff like that.
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May 10, 2016 02:04
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tsob posted:The SDF-1 was lost en-route to the center of the Galaxy. Not destroyed necessarily - it literally up and disappeared, getting lost. It's the Megaroad-01 or SDF-2. C'mon, son.
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May 10, 2016 02:09
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May 10, 2016 02:15
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May 10, 2016 02:20
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Reina eats cutely.
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May 10, 2016 02:21
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Can Hayate "feel the wind" because he looks to be wearing a Vajra fold crystal?
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May 10, 2016 03:12
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Speaking of fold tech from Frontier, did Windermere get hit by an orbital Dimension Eater bombardment?  Yyyep, that'd piss anyone off.
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May 10, 2016 03:18
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Wow that was a good ep. I didn't expect Rambo First Blood to be on Hayate's hands.
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May 10, 2016 05:48
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tsob posted:She doesn't make sense to me though, since she never acts in command of even Walkure (that's Kaname), never mind Delta Squad too. Are we watching the same show? because I am pretty sure that she always acts in command (because she is).
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Kanos posted:ruins the prince was singing to looked like the alien artifact room on Windermere itself, so I would bet they're some kind of relay stations for the Var Control Song. The subs list it as being on Planet Airberl when you see it, so I doubt it's on the same planet. I note that there's also a planet Alfheim mentioned on the starmap at the start of the episode, which seems auspicious in a show with a Walkure. trucutru posted:Are we watching the same show? because I am pretty sure that she always acts in command (because she is). We mustn't be, because Kaname is in command of them. It's literally in her job description on the official site among other things. Mikumo is the lead singer, but Kaname is the leader of Walkure. It's why Mikumo is hoofing it around investigating stuff in episode one for instance, while Kaname is in the command center with Arad.
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