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Actually, on that note...The Independent posted:Most people have no idea how many countries are in the EU, survey says http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/most-people-have-no-idea-how-many-countries-are-in-the-eu-survey-says-a7029711.html Ooh, history snipe. January 4th 1978, a national referendum in Chile shows support for Augusto Pinochet's policies, just showing that leaving important issues to referendums is loving stupid.
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# ? May 15, 2016 10:40 |
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I thought it was 29 countries tbh.
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# ? May 15, 2016 10:43 |
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Hoops posted:I thought it was 29 countries tbh. Confusion probably surrounds there being 27 with Romania and Bulgaria joining in 2007, and then Croatia becoming the 28th in 2013.
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# ? May 15, 2016 10:47 |
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The exact number of countries in the EU is pretty meaningless trivia for most people, I'm not sure why it's the headline if people were only out by 1. If people were saying there were 100 then that might be interesting but?
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# ? May 15, 2016 10:54 |
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MrL_JaKiri posted:The exact number of countries in the EU is pretty meaningless trivia for most people, I'm not sure why it's the headline if people were only out by 1. If people were saying there were 100 then that might be interesting but? Yeah, the 'number of laws' and 'EU army' parts probably would have been more relevant.
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# ? May 15, 2016 10:59 |
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I suppose it's relevant to compare to asking Americans how many states the USA has as a marker of knowledge about their European identity but it doesn't really swing it one way or the other as it's a lack of knowledge about the EU for those who want to leave but it shows the failure of education and importance of the EU for those who want to stay.
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# ? May 15, 2016 11:01 |
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Pesmerga posted:leaving important issues to referendums is loving stupid. b-b-but why do you hate you're freedoms
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# ? May 15, 2016 11:06 |
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I didn't know how many EU member states there are.
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# ? May 15, 2016 11:08 |
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Pissflaps posted:I didn't know how many EU member states there are. unsurprising
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# ? May 15, 2016 11:12 |
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Pissflaps posted:I didn't know how many EU member states there are.
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# ? May 15, 2016 11:12 |
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It's not a material point, who cares.
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# ? May 15, 2016 11:12 |
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I think id have guessed 26.
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# ? May 15, 2016 11:19 |
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I just tried to name all the EU countries but only got to 25. I forgot Greece, Cyprus and Malta. I'm never even quite sure that the latter two are even proper counties tbh.
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# ? May 15, 2016 11:21 |
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LemonDrizzle posted:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/14/boris-johnson-the-eu-wants-a-superstate-just-as-hitler-did/ *yet. Khan's been quoted as saying some pretty dumb things so far, but after reading the first article, I have no doubt he's been misquoted as having said the things he's supposed to have said.
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Also 30% of people knew what the EU's national anthem is? I'm honestly surprised it's that high. And people getting the number of EU states slightly wrong isn't newsworthy, if they said like 15 or 40 then it would be, but 29 instead of 28 is hardly extraordinary.
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# ? May 15, 2016 11:50 |
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https://twitter.com/dannykellywords/status/731779905076264960
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# ? May 15, 2016 11:52 |
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nothing to seehere posted:Also 30% of people knew what the EU's national anthem is? It has one?
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# ? May 15, 2016 12:13 |
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Well Hitler did cause the ECHR in not a roundabout way
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# ? May 15, 2016 12:15 |
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Renaissance Robot posted:It has one? It's certainly not got a 'national' anthem Yet
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# ? May 15, 2016 12:16 |
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I'm just amazed that 73% of people all guessed at the same number. Was it multiple choice?
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# ? May 15, 2016 12:23 |
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If the EU becomes a single superstate then at least we might get a national day/flag day on May 9th.
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# ? May 15, 2016 12:32 |
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Renaissance Robot posted:It has one? EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A CASSETTE INTO THE SLOT. ITS ODE TO JOY AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START SINGING THE WORDS ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, JEAN-CLAUDE JUNCKER etc. etc.
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# ? May 15, 2016 12:38 |
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What words?
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# ? May 15, 2016 12:46 |
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Guavanaut posted:What words? There are vocals.
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# ? May 15, 2016 12:48 |
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Guavanaut posted:What words? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ode_to_Joy Apparently the words aren't officially part of the anthem, I did not realise.
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# ? May 15, 2016 12:52 |
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There are specifically no words in the EU anthem variant though. (efb) I suppose there's Nur nur nur nur nur nur nur nurnurnurnur nurr-nur nurnur. Which is still a step up from the UK's 'national' anthem, and two steps up from England's lack of an anthem at all.
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# ? May 15, 2016 12:53 |
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I feel bad for England. Scotland has got at least a good three or four perfectly serviceable potential anthems, even if most of them fall into the usual "battle from hundreds of years ago we should have gotten over by now" anthem category. Meanwhile though England has to make do with goddamn Jerusalem.
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# ? May 15, 2016 13:00 |
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I don't know why the EU picked that tune, isn't Peggle an american game?
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# ? May 15, 2016 13:04 |
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The EU anthem should be whatever won the latest Eurovision contest.
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# ? May 15, 2016 13:07 |
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namesake posted:The EU anthem should be whatever won the latest Eurovision contest. Having Hard Rock Hallelujah as EU anthem for a year would have been pretty sweet
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# ? May 15, 2016 13:10 |
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Angepain posted:I feel bad for England. Scotland has got at least a good three or four perfectly serviceable potential anthems, even if most of them fall into the usual "battle from hundreds of years ago we should have gotten over by now" anthem category. Meanwhile though England has to make do with goddamn Jerusalem. Is There for Honest Poverty/A Man's A Man For A' That seems like more or less the perfect Scottish anthem. Written by Scotland's most celebrated poet, it's got a decent tune that can be adapted to be lively or solemn as required, it's immediately identifiable as Scottish, and the lyrics are laudably peaceable, noble and egalitarian rather than just about murdering the English. I guess it doesn't quite have the same appeal to raucous jiingoism as some other possibilities, but it also has precedent being used in the Scottish Parliament, so I think it'd be a plausible choice if Scotland were to select an official anthem.
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# ? May 15, 2016 13:19 |
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big scary monsters posted:I guess it doesn't quite have the same appeal to raucous jiingoism as some other possibilities, but it also has precedent being used in the Scottish Parliament, so I think it'd be a plausible choice if Scotland were to select an official anthem.
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# ? May 15, 2016 13:24 |
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Angepain posted:I feel bad for England. Scotland has got at least a good three or four perfectly serviceable potential anthems, even if most of them fall into the usual "battle from hundreds of years ago we should have gotten over by now" anthem category. Meanwhile though England has to make do with goddamn Jerusalem. Jerusalem is a Good Poem and William Blake is likewise Excellent.
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# ? May 15, 2016 13:36 |
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A Man's A Man is definitely my #1 choice for Scottish anthem. Mostly on not-being-about-killing-people points, admittedly.OvineYeast posted:Jerusalem is a Good Poem and William Blake is likewise Excellent. I've no strong views on the poem really, but the song? It is physically impossible to smile or be happy while singing the melody of Jerusalem.
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# ? May 15, 2016 13:41 |
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It's a song that rails against industrialisation it's not supposed to be happy
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# ? May 15, 2016 13:55 |
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I thought it was a song bragging on how Jesus sailed here as a ship's carpenter, and totally rocked out at Glastonbury before it was taken over by middle class hipsters?
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# ? May 15, 2016 13:58 |
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Angepain posted:I've no strong views on the poem really, but the song? It is physically impossible to smile or be happy while singing the melody of Jerusalem.
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# ? May 15, 2016 14:01 |
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When the gently caress would you sing a european anthem?
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# ? May 15, 2016 14:06 |
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I always thought "I Vow to Thee" was kinda pretty. Still, anything would be better than that god drat funeral dirge of God Save the Queen.
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# ? May 15, 2016 14:07 |
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Jippa posted:When the gently caress would you sing a european anthem?
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