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LemonDrizzle posted:It's a rough guideline that works fine for people who have relatively sedentary lifestyles and want to lose weight. Obviously, if you're pretty physically active then it'd be unsuitable, but someone in that situation is unlikely to be looking for basic fitness advice on the internet so... 10x weight in lb or 20x weight in kg gives two different figures, both unhealthy for anyone who isn't a blob. Stick to 1800-2000 calories per day and make sure they're made up of the right things rather than processed crap. You'll need these calories for the increased physical activity you almost certainly need to be doing. Look at what you eat and how much of it you eat. Portion control can be very difficult for people who love alone, but eating well is an easy thing anyone can do.
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Jippa posted:If you really hate that stuff even just going on two really long walks at the weekend (meaning you don't have to go to a gym multiple times a week or own any equipment at home). Just do anything.
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May 18, 2016 08:47
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A sex-haver! Get him!
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May 18, 2016 08:48
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OwlFancier posted:Running is very boring, swimming is fun, I would swim a lot if I owned a pool. Pools are very high maintenance. I can't imagine that the convenience of being able to swim after hours is worth it
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:A sex-haver! Get him! 
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Seaside Loafer posted:Dont drive so I walk or cycle, getting lots of nookie at the moment, never been overweight, ive honestly never understood why people have to make a point of exercising (unless you have a particular physical problem), its pretty simple, dont eat to much and move around a bit sometimes. Dont get me wrong im not making a hate campaign against people who like to work out its just an alien mindset to me, dont see the point of it, but enjoy yourself I guess! Because being active makes you fit as well as thin and you will live longer and have better quality of life.
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May 18, 2016 08:54
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I personally don't like exercise for the sake of it like lifting or running but I find climbing a great form if exercise since it's so goal-based (also makes you feel pretty good and athletic climbing even easy poo poo) cycling to commute is also great and I've got fatter since I moved within walking distance as opposed to cycling.
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May 18, 2016 08:55
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Namtab posted:10x weight in lb or 20x weight in kg gives two different figures, both unhealthy for anyone who isn't a blob. Stick to 1800-2000 calories per day I weigh 90kg / 200lb WHAT NOW HUH
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May 18, 2016 09:03
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Namtab posted:people who love alone the most romantic description of the UKMT I've ever heard.
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May 18, 2016 09:04
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Seaside Loafer posted:Dont drive so I walk or cycle, getting lots of nookie at the moment, never been overweight, ive honestly never understood why people have to make a point of exercising (unless you have a particular physical problem), its pretty simple, dont eat to much and move around a bit sometimes. Dont get me wrong im not making a hate campaign against people who like to work out its just an alien mindset to me, dont see the point of it, but enjoy yourself I guess! You make a point of exercising, because you don't drive.
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May 18, 2016 09:05
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Party Boat posted:I weigh 90kg / 200lb WHAT NOW HUH You're perfect as you are.
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May 18, 2016 09:10
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I also find exercise to be something of a chore despite spending several weekends a year haring around forests with fake swords, so I do sprint training for cardio and have a small collection of home equipment so I can blast out 20 mins of exercise after work.
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May 18, 2016 09:34
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I actually enjoy running, it's horrible to start with but after a few weeks at it becomes easy. It makes me feel great, look great and is wonderful for my mental health to boot.
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May 18, 2016 09:50
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It is the duty of all leftwingers to get as swole as possible so as to increase the revolutionary masses. Actually I'm lazy as hell and apart from 15 minute walks each day at work I do nothing regularly.
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May 18, 2016 09:55
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Party Boat posted:I weigh 90kg / 200lb WHAT NOW HUH  Also the correct answer is to eat more and lift more.
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May 18, 2016 10:08
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OwlFancier posted:Running is very boring, swimming is fun, I would swim a lot if I owned a pool. I like swimming because I can't get sweaty, so nobody can comment on it  Pity the public pool is so expensive.
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May 18, 2016 10:16
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Seaside Loafer posted:Dont drive so I walk or cycle, getting lots of nookie at the moment, never been overweight, ive honestly never understood why people have to make a point of exercising (unless you have a particular physical problem), its pretty simple, dont eat to much and move around a bit sometimes. Dont get me wrong im not making a hate campaign against people who like to work out its just an alien mindset to me, dont see the point of it, but enjoy yourself I guess! For lots of people it's not that simple and... I guess you have to learn to enjoy it or you'll be throughly miserable. Powerlifting is fun though, in a kind of toddler way. Here's an article about the American Biggest Losers quote:“It is frightening and amazing,” said Dr. Hall, an expert on metabolism at the National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases, which is part of the National Institutes of Health. “I am just blown away.”
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May 18, 2016 10:19
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Rolled Cabbage posted:For lots of people it's not that simple and... I guess you have to learn to enjoy it or you'll be throughly miserable. Powerlifting is fun though, in a kind of toddler way. That's one of the reasons that weightlifting is recommended to people who want to lose weight, since in addition to using up calories you will put on lean muscle mass, which uses more energy than fat thus increasing your basal metabolic rate so the amount of calories you can consume before gaining weight doesn't change too much. Purely cutting calories and doing cardio can put you in a dieting 'death spiral' where as you lose weight your BMR goes down, so you constantly have to eat less and less permanently to maintain your body weight which some people can't/won't do.
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May 18, 2016 10:34
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SSJ2 Goku Wilders posted:im the Guy on the left who is Strasserite (Hugo Boss aesthetic, natch) standing next to our red brothers. I don't understand how you haven't been ran out of this thread with your "literally a nazi" gimmick.
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May 18, 2016 10:35
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Thanks for reminding me I need to actually use my gym membership now and again you tossers. Although with the direction the world is going I don't think an extended lifespan is something to aspire towards.
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Manic_Misanthrope posted:Thanks for reminding me I need to actually use my gym membership now and again you tossers. Although with the direction the world is going I don't think an extended lifespan is something to aspire towards.
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May 18, 2016 10:58
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Weight lifting looks dumb and boring to me, but I spend a couple of hours a week training by hanging by my fingers from what is more or less a fancy door frame, so I don't feel I'm in a position to throw stones (I'd fall off).
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Manic_Misanthrope posted:Thanks for reminding me I need to actually use my gym membership now and again you tossers. Although with the direction the world is going I don't think an extended lifespan is something to aspire towards. Stop paying money to not go into a building
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Seaside Loafer posted:Exercising is loving boring I will concede that a long slow run can be mentally taxing, but that's what audiobooks are for.
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May 18, 2016 11:07
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MikeCrotch posted:That's one of the reasons that weightlifting is recommended to people who want to lose weight, since in addition to using up calories you will put on lean muscle mass, which uses more energy than fat thus increasing your basal metabolic rate so the amount of calories you can consume before gaining weight doesn't change too much. Recommended by who though? The internet, men's health magazines? The reason the researchers were so suprised is that weightlifting is just not part of the medical consensus. When I was in rehab (phys., not drugs) we were only ever told to do cardio. Although admittedly I was there for non-weight related reasons. Even when I was diagnosed as type two diabetic (mistakenly, yeah, apparently being nearly dead will do that), the advice from the NHS was eat lots of plain starches like bread and pasta and do cardio i.e. 'death spiral'.
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Seaside Loafer posted:Dont drive so I walk or cycle, getting lots of nookie at the moment, never been overweight, ive honestly never understood why people have to make a point of exercising (unless you have a particular physical problem), its pretty simple, dont eat to much and move around a bit sometimes. Dont get me wrong im not making a hate campaign against people who like to work out its just an alien mindset to me, dont see the point of it, but enjoy yourself I guess! You do exercise then. You are one of those people who made fun of the brainy kids at school but secretly did extra homework on the sly.
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Rolled Cabbage posted:Recommended by who though? The internet, men's health magazines? Admittedly IANAD(ietician) and most of my information is from stuff like Practical Programming for Strength Training, so it might be a healthy dollop of broscience. I do wonder if the recommendations are based on what people are likely to stick with though, since as discussed earlier its a lot easier and cheaper to take up running than start heavy weight training which involves a gym membership or a big initial outlay & learning complex movements.
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Got a bunch of leaflets through the post on the EU referendum today. There was the typical guff from the two campaigns, but also a leaflet advertising a free book promising 'The Biblical Perspective' on the EU. I'm almost tempted to take up the offer and see what sort of batshit is in store, Scripture has played too small a role in the referendum campaign imho.
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I much prefer lifting weights in the gym to going running, because running is really boring and repetitive, but weight training is a series of short-term goal-oriented tasks that you can feel good about after each set. The things that are easiest to stick with though are probably social things like spin classes or yoga. Maybe running is more fun with a club than by yourself I dunno
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May 18, 2016 11:29
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Rolled Cabbage posted:Recommended by who though? The internet, men's health magazines? I would imagine medical people recommend cardio because it's easier to do safely and doesn't require equipment. Things like squatting and dead lifting are incredibly beneficial for your whole body (including your heart etc) but with out the right training you can injure yourself.
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HorseLord posted:I don't understand how you haven't been ran out of this thread with your "literally a nazi" gimmick. Unfortunately we can't literally put people up against walls on the Internet (well, mods aside I guess) or there's a couple of people I'd love to see purged from the thread. Exercise-wise, I walk to work every day, half an hour each way. Seems to mostly keep the pounds off.
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Rolled Cabbage posted:Recommended by who though? The internet, men's health magazines? The big problem with health/sport sciences is that they're extremely compromised by capitalism, because any universal consensus would automatically shut down the potential for conflicting "truths". Not to say that doing cardio or weights are bad for you, but it doesn't help when an issue of a health magazine has information directly condradicted in the next edition. (don't look to me for advice though -- I'm long unable to do proper exercise due to all the horrible poo poo I've got at the mo)
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I find long distance running really relaxing, after about twenty minutes I get into this serene mindset that sticks with me for the rest of the run and usually for the rest of the day. It's a great stress reliever.
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Crameltonian posted:Got a bunch of leaflets through the post on the EU referendum today. There was the typical guff from the two campaigns, but also a leaflet advertising a free book promising 'The Biblical Perspective' on the EU. I'm almost tempted to take up the offer and see what sort of batshit is in store, Scripture has played too small a role in the referendum campaign imho. tl;dr 
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Crameltonian posted:Got a bunch of leaflets through the post on the EU referendum today. There was the typical guff from the two campaigns, but also a leaflet advertising a free book promising 'The Biblical Perspective' on the EU. I'm almost tempted to take up the offer and see what sort of batshit is in store, Scripture has played too small a role in the referendum campaign imho. To quote from some scripture that's more in line with the thread "There is not, there cannot be, a State without religion. Take the freest States in the world—the United States of America or the Swiss Confederation, for instance—and see what an important part is played in all official discourses by divine Providence, that supreme sanction of all States. But whenever a chief of State speaks of God, be he William I., the Knouto-Germanic emperor, or Grant, the president of the great republic, be sure that he is getting ready to shear once more his people-flock." That may have been true when Bakunin wrote it in the 19th century, and possibly still in recent cases like Blair's mental episode, but there has been no real appeal to religion by either side in this debate. Sounds progressive and good, but in reality all it means is that other nebulous (and possibly more dangerous) values have been waved around as a rallying flag to shear the people-flock, like "our sovereignty!" or "Britain stronger!" e: josh04 posted:tl;dr 
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MikeCrotch posted:Admittedly IANAD(ietician) and most of my information is from stuff like Practical Programming for Strength Training, so it might be a healthy dollop of broscience. Jippa posted:I would imagine medical people recommend cardio because it's easier to do safely and doesn't require equipment. Things like squatting and dead lifting are incredibly beneficial for your whole body (including your heart etc) but with out the right training you can injure yourself. I don't disagree with you guys, but ultimately if the advice is making the situation worse... it's not worth giving the advice in the first place. Thing is, there is a lot of cash (suprisingly) in the NHS for preventative/rehabilitative exercise. I probably spent about 1 year in total attending NHS exercise sessions every week. If there is room for specialised yoga and swimming (which had to be taught to us because of our injuries), then I'm sure there is room for supervised weights based work for people with obesity related problems.
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Jippa posted:You do exercise then. You are one of those people who made fun of the brainy kids at school but secretly did extra homework on the sly.
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