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calandryll
Apr 25, 2003

Ask me where I do my best drinking!



Pillbug

Nostratic posted:

No good for slap shots, but it's perfect for wristers

What about a quick snap shot?

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xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

To the dismay of everyone I've shown it to, my snap shot is lightning fast.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

xzzy posted:

To the dismay of everyone I've shown it to, my snap shot is lightning fast.

Your wife's opinion doesn't count, unfortunately.

RC Cola
Aug 1, 2011

Dovie'andi se tovya sagain

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

Your wife's opinion doesn't count, unfortunately.

:drat:

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

Your wife's opinion doesn't count, unfortunately.

Will it help if I post film? Can someone critique my technique?

sellouts
Apr 23, 2003

eat arbys

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I stopped going to Arby's when they stopped offering 5 for $5.

Vital Signs
Oct 17, 2007

xzzy posted:

Will it help if I post film? Can someone critique my technique?
Maybe we can get Shanny to offer some voice-over commentary on what went wrong?

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

sellouts posted:

eat arbys

Top 5 post in this thread. Maybe top 3.

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


xzzy posted:

Will it help if I post film? Can someone critique my technique?

PornHub.com - 2 In the Box

Habibi
Dec 8, 2004

We have the capability to make San Jose's first Cup Champion.

The Sharks could be that Champion.
"Two Minutes Well Worth It"

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


calandryll posted:

What about a quick snap shot?

If you're warmed up, yes

JollyPubJerk
Nov 10, 2009

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
my 110 flex z bubble grip has lasted me over a decade

*knocks on wood*

sellouts
Apr 23, 2003

Double deflection into the nose of one of the best players in the league. poo poo was sideways. Stay safe everyone.

T-Bone
Sep 14, 2004

jakes did this?
Cracked the poo poo out of my jaw on the post but we beat the team with pro/d1 ringers for the first time all year. I think they'll probably destroy us in the playoffs but it was good to get them once. For some reason I score against them a lot. Their goalie is pretty athletic but he makes some weird reads that are exploitable and they're kinda lazy on D knowing they can just pass it to Pro Player X and score 8.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

Last night, we were up 4-3 with 3 minutes left. Our team is like 1-4000 this season. We're on the PK, and the one guy who shouldn't have been on the ice killing a penalty jumps on the ice with 24 seconds left on the PK. My line is on the bench.

My Line-mate: Man, that guy shouldn't be out there on the PK.
Me: Meh, there's only 24 seconds left on the kill. It'll be fine.

*literally 9 seconds later*
*dude trips over the blue line*
*their forward skates around him and buries it*

Then we lose in a shootout.

z0331
Oct 2, 2003

Holtby thy name
Finally made it to the end of the thread!

I did some learn to skate classes years ago at Kettler Ice, then promptly moved and lived somewhere for three years where I could go to a rink only about once a month at most. Now I'm in the NYC area and have started doing the learn to skate with hockey gear on class at Chelsea. No car, so it's really the only option despite it being really expensive. Classes have been good, though, and each time (if you pay a little more of course) the last half our or so is a coached stick and puck with various drills. Last time they did a one-on-one scrimmage where the coach dumps a puck in, two people fight for it and try to pass back to the coach, then get open for a pass to score. First time ever doing something like that and I was terrible - I think I looked slightly better than the guy in the Bobby vs. Beerleaguer board battle video. Could barely stay on my skates. But at least the other guy didn't score either. I'm not a terrible skater, but it made me realize just how little mobility I have in terms of going anywhere I want in a small area. So much fun, though.

One thing I really want to work on is quick starting. I always feel like I put myself off balance when trying to really dig in and push myself forward, and I'm thinking partly it's from not having my head/shoulders far enough forward. Also probably just need to be lower overall.

My work has summer Fridays for July and August so I'm planning to try Friday drop-in. They also have a hockey instructional class that I might look into.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

What do you mean by quick starts? Building speed from a complete stop, or adding speed while moving?

z0331
Oct 2, 2003

Holtby thy name

xzzy posted:

What do you mean by quick starts? Building speed from a complete stop, or adding speed while moving?

Building speed from a complete stop - like those first three or so pushes they say should be getting you roughly to top speed.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Invest your effort into crossovers and transitions, standing starts don't happen all that often in a game. Accelerating while already moving will get you a heck of a lot further.

z0331
Oct 2, 2003

Holtby thy name
I actually just figured out (to an extent) backward crossovers recently! I also have been getting better at transitions and where my skates should be to not slow down or get caught. Stuff's coming along!

JollyPubJerk
Nov 10, 2009

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

z0331 posted:


One thing I really want to work on is quick starting. I always feel like I put myself off balance when trying to really dig in and push myself forward, and I'm thinking partly it's from not having my head/shoulders far enough forward. Also probably just need to be lower overall.


Box jumps, a couple feet off the ground at least. Jump up quick and bounce back down, don't destroy your knees, repeat

Make sure you extend your legs mostly straight before hopping back down, that's what'll burn. The whole motion will get you to build the muscle getting your center of gravity where it needs to be when you want to explode on the ice (the head/shoulders thing you describe).

JollyPubJerk fucked around with this message at 19:25 on May 19, 2016

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

z0331 posted:

Building speed from a complete stop - like those first three or so pushes they say should be getting you roughly to top speed.

I swear heavy barbell squats in the gym made me more explosive off the line.

You should do those anyway, to be fair.

z0331
Oct 2, 2003

Holtby thy name

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

I swear heavy barbell squats in the gym made me more explosive off the line.

You should do those anyway, to be fair.

I did powerlifting for years up until a few months ago. I had wound my hips up so tight that one day I crouched down and my back seized up like an eighty-year-old. I've laid off the barbell squats for a while and have been spending the past few months working on core stuff, unilateral movements like weighted pistols, etc.

So luckily leg strength I don't think is too much of an issue at the moment. I think it's finding the right balance/position. From lifting I'm likely so ingrained with "weight back on your heels" that I'm still not letting myself go forward enough.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

Ha, that's actually pretty funny. I just got into powerlifting at the beginning of the year (just did my first comp a couple weeks ago). My squat day is the same day as hockey :v:

Zip!
Aug 14, 2008

Keep on pushing
little buddy

Sled pushes for explosive power off the line, pulls for backwards.

Its also great from a hockey start perspective, you get all of your weight forward in front of your body which is what you need for a strong powerful start off the line.

T-Bone
Sep 14, 2004

jakes did this?

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

Ha, that's actually pretty funny. I just got into powerlifting at the beginning of the year (just did my first comp a couple weeks ago). My squat day is the same day as hockey :v:

I can't even walk up stairs after my squat days gently caress that

z0331
Oct 2, 2003

Holtby thy name

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

Ha, that's actually pretty funny. I just got into powerlifting at the beginning of the year (just did my first comp a couple weeks ago). My squat day is the same day as hockey :v:

If you're anything like me, take extra time to work on hip mobility. Figure-4 stretches were a godsend until I cranked it a bit too much and my knee popped. :saddowns:

communist kangaroo
Oct 2, 2006

those are my principles, and if you don't like them...well, i have koalas.
When I'm feeling lazy I'll do a few squats with zero weight and then get back to playing video games

Mediocre in the D League: A How-To Guide

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I curl 12 packs when it's my turn to buy beer for the team.

Like.. lift them from the cart to my trunk. Then again when unloading to bring into the locker room.

Pleads
Jun 9, 2005

pew pew pew


There are 0 sports in my life so I went for a jog and it turns out skating is a lot easier and more fun. Somehow my legs hurt a lot even though I could go skate for an hour and never have any muscle pain?

Time to buy my own rink.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

xzzy posted:

I curl 12 packs when it's my turn to buy beer for the team.

What do the other 13 players drink?

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


T-Bone posted:

I can't even walk up stairs after my squat days gently caress that

No kidding. I used to skate with a guy who did legs before our 8am Sunday games, he was fast as hell. I don't know how he did it.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Pleads posted:

There are 0 sports in my life so I went for a jog and it turns out skating is a lot easier and more fun. Somehow my legs hurt a lot even though I could go skate for an hour and never have any muscle pain?

I noticed that too, wife's been dragging me out to train for a 5k so she doesn't have to go out running alone and jogging is pretty goddamn brutal. I guess it works the muscles differently.

I'm actually losing weight too which hasn't happened for like 5 loving years so who knows what the hell.

MajorJohnSteed
Dec 20, 2014

z0331 posted:

Finally made it to the end of the thread!

I did some learn to skate classes years ago at Kettler Ice, then promptly moved and lived somewhere for three years where I could go to a rink only about once a month at most. Now I'm in the NYC area and have started doing the learn to skate with hockey gear on class at Chelsea. No car, so it's really the only option despite it being really expensive. Classes have been good, though, and each time (if you pay a little more of course) the last half our or so is a coached stick and puck with various drills. Last time they did a one-on-one scrimmage where the coach dumps a puck in, two people fight for it and try to pass back to the coach, then get open for a pass to score. First time ever doing something like that and I was terrible - I think I looked slightly better than the guy in the Bobby vs. Beerleaguer board battle video. Could barely stay on my skates. But at least the other guy didn't score either. I'm not a terrible skater, but it made me realize just how little mobility I have in terms of going anywhere I want in a small area. So much fun, though.

One thing I really want to work on is quick starting. I always feel like I put myself off balance when trying to really dig in and push myself forward, and I'm thinking partly it's from not having my head/shoulders far enough forward. Also probably just need to be lower overall.

My work has summer Fridays for July and August so I'm planning to try Friday drop-in. They also have a hockey instructional class that I might look into.

I play at Chelsea Piers as well. I did the Wednesday night hockey instructionals, for a bit and I've been skating with one of the coaches every week. I just finished up my first season in the lowest level rec league and I'm loving it. I was wondering if there were other NYC/Chelsea Piers goons out there.

Habibi
Dec 8, 2004

We have the capability to make San Jose's first Cup Champion.

The Sharks could be that Champion.
I'm not a big fan of typical squats, period. It's great if you're a bodybuilder or a strongman competitor or something, but for purposes of athletic performance and injury avoidance, I think there are as or more effective exercises that don't place the same strain on the back, hips, knees, even shoulders.

And while you're probably right that it's mostly a question of technique, I'm going to second some sort of plyometric work for those quick starts. Strength is great, but what you're looking for is explosiveness.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Squats are a really effective exercise, but they're also really easy to do completely wrong and gently caress you up majorly as you increase the weight.

Also basically no one is qualified to teach you how to do it so good luck not destroying your back!

So I just stick with lunges and planks. And leg raises.

Habibi
Dec 8, 2004

We have the capability to make San Jose's first Cup Champion.

The Sharks could be that Champion.

xzzy posted:

Squats are a really effective exercise, but they're also really easy to do completely wrong and gently caress you up majorly as you increase the weight.

Also basically no one is qualified to teach you how to do it so good luck not destroying your back!

So I just stick with lunges and planks. And leg raises.

They are effective, not arguing that point. But at a certain weight 'completely wrong' becomes subjective as no form will protect your back, etc... Lunges and their variations are awesome. My current strength exercise is a hockey lunge (feet @ 90 degree angle, step out diagonally along said angle) with a ~70lb barbell on my shoulders. Several months ago it was a TRX pistol squat. I like exercises that force the legs to work independently (and reduce strain on the back), given that's how most sports use them 95% of the time.

V for Vegans
Jan 30, 2009
I was looking at jerseys for beer league teams today and it made me kind of sad that I play in a league where everyone wears the same reversible jerseys. Maybe after a couple seasons of stinky socks I'll look into a more legit league with standings and stuff, or do they not normally have those leagues at the D level?

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sellouts
Apr 23, 2003

A bunch of people here started in the never ever league in LA and they had whatever jerseys they wanted.

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