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its also the only way to keep the 'rolling car show' concept of GT racing alive
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Jun 17, 2016 17:10
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Cygni posted:its also the only way to keep the 'rolling car show' concept of GT racing alive I mean, I get that, but they have 70 loving classes make a GTX class, I dunno, but it's bullshit that a team can work their asses off only to be told to put weights in their pockets
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VikingSkull posted:I mean, I get that, but they have 70 loving classes i hear ya, i would be more than cool with axing P1 and bringing back the ultra GT1 cars personally. i mean for all intents and purposes, the ford GT's are a prototype that vaguely resembles a streetcar anyway
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Jun 17, 2016 17:24
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Keep the P1s, add in GT1s and have 2 classes that can fight for the overall win like in the late 90s and if one implodes due to crazy spending (like in the late 90s) you won't lose the entire top half of the grid in one go.
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Jun 17, 2016 17:31
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VikingSkull posted:I mean, I get that, but they have 70 loving classes Um, we tried that once. It turns into a manufacturer arms race and you end up with two Corvette GT1s racing each other. No thanks.
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Jun 17, 2016 17:49
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drgitlin posted:Um, we tried that once. It turns into a manufacturer arms race and you end up with two Corvette GT1s racing each other. No thanks. Well yeah, but it's fun as hell until you get to that point
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Jun 17, 2016 17:52
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drgitlin posted:Um, we tried that once. It turns into a manufacturer arms race and you end up with two Corvette GT1s racing each other. No thanks. thats kinda how every sportscar class ends up eventually i guess, which is why they are always changing the rules/classes and im one of the people that really doesnt like the current P1 regs or environment so im looking forward to it going away
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Jun 17, 2016 18:35
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P1 is da best
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Jun 17, 2016 18:44
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drgitlin posted:Um, we tried that once. It turns into a manufacturer arms race and you end up with two Corvette GT1s racing each other. No thanks. I might be in the minority here but I always kinda viewed endurance racing as a manufacturers arms race. That's like, the entire point of it. It's pretty easy to cut down on some of the costs, homologation (and loving hold to your required numbers! no exceptions!) and a requirement that x numbers of cars must be available for privateer teams. Xisticide posted:Keep the P1s, add in GT1s and have 2 classes that can fight for the overall win like in the late 90s and if one implodes due to crazy spending (like in the late 90s) you won't lose the entire top half of the grid in one go. this is cool and good
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Jun 17, 2016 18:45
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Xisticide posted:Keep the P1s, add in GT1s and have 2 classes that can fight for the overall win like in the late 90s and if one implodes due to crazy spending (like in the late 90s) you won't lose the entire top half of the grid in one go. I like this idea muchly. Porsche 918 all done up for racing vs Mclaren P1 GTR vs Koenigsegg One:1 vs FXX K vs some sort of Chiron racer vs Huayra R would be amazing (and probably sadly too fast for most racetracks to handle safely)
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Jun 17, 2016 19:19
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MazeOfTzeentch posted:I like this idea muchly. Porsche 918 all done up for racing vs Mclaren P1 GTR vs Koenigsegg One:1 vs FXX K vs some sort of Chiron racer vs Huayra R would be amazing (and probably sadly too fast for most racetracks to handle safely) The current P1 hybrids have more horsepower, more downforce, and weigh less than any of those cars. (Obviously the Chiron has more power but more than double the mass.) We are in a true golden age for endurance racing right now.
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FYI, in case anyone is wondering. I got the SlingTV multi-device beta and I found the whole 2016 NHRA season!
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drgitlin posted:The current P1 hybrids have more horsepower, more downforce, and weigh less than any of those cars. (Obviously the Chiron has more power but more than double the mass.) .... and on the flip side, most of the GT classes are made up of detuned street cars 
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Jun 17, 2016 20:41
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Engine wise yes, but they have considerably more downforce.
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Jun 17, 2016 20:54
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drgitlin posted:We are in a true golden age for endurance racing right now. We really are, it's pretty amazing TBH.
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George Zimmer posted:Engine wise yes, but they have considerably more downforce. Of course, but that's only because of regulations for street cars. Before 15 years ago or so, nearly every GT car was a stroked up street engine.
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Jun 17, 2016 21:42
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drgitlin posted:The current P1 hybrids have more horsepower, more downforce, and weigh less than any of those cars. (Obviously the Chiron has more power but more than double the mass.) Closer than you might think in power, definitely way off in weight FXX-K 1086 bhp P1 GTR 986bhp One:1 1341hp (1MW) 919 "approx 900 hp" TS050 986hp R18 "in excess of 1000" If you put those cars on a crash diet (of course they still wouldnt be as light as the P1s), gave them more power and upped their aero chops, I think you could find reasonable challengers to the P1 cars in a delimited GT field. But like we've said you'd probably start reaching straight-line speeds that the FIA doesn't want to see for safety reasons and they'd shut it down, or one company would dominate and everyone else would take their ball and go home.
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The only way it could work, really, is if the ACO and IMSA could get together and pick 6 or 8 12 and 24H races to run as a combined world series, so the draw for manufacturers is as wide as possible. Say, Bathurst, Le Mans, Nurburgring, Daytona, Sebring and Spa lol @ that, though
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Jun 17, 2016 21:56
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dont get together or work with the ACO dont ever work with the ACO
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Jun 17, 2016 22:06
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Straight-line speed isn't the issue, it's the ever faster cornering enabled by stupid aero rules.
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yeah i really dont think yall understand just how loving quick these things are through the corners now. Theyre not breaking lap records because theyre pushing trap speeds to the limit, theyre coming out of the loving corners 20mph faster than 20 years ago
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go3 posted:yeah i really dont think yall understand just how loving quick these things are through the corners now. Theyre not breaking lap records because theyre pushing trap speeds to the limit, theyre coming out of the loving corners 20mph faster than 20 years ago Indeed. And that's not just downforce; tire technology has come a LOOOOOONG way in the past couple of decades.
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Jun 18, 2016 01:46
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And suspension as well, but I'm pretty sure if you were to look at the advancement in sophistication and importance over the past twenty years it would be overwhelmingly slanted towards aero.
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Warm-ups start in 2h15m  Are we hijacking an irc channel for play by plays? orange juche fucked around with this message at 07:45 on Jun 18, 2016 |
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WEC stream is live for warm-ups and pre-race stuff E: and red flagged for oil on the track near Indianapolis. One of the P2s clouted the wall hard as gently caress and will likely miss the start. orange juche fucked around with this message at 08:11 on Jun 18, 2016 |
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Jun 18, 2016 08:00
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#35 crashes now too, we;re gonna be down 2 cars already
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CactusWeasle posted:#35 crashes now too, we;re gonna be down 2 cars already He hit hard as gently caress, I hope he didn't crack the tub 
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Jun 18, 2016 08:42
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Ferrari Challenge race is great, and then Lemans Cup in about 40 minutes
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Man, it's 5am on a Saturday and I woke up to watch people drive cars in a big circle in France. I have lost control of my life.
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Road to Lemans live now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKedBm-_WTU
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What am I doing wrong that the app is telling me there is no current stream? Also where on their website is the stream? I've created an account and it says you can watch on multiple devices but this poo poo is not very well layed out. *edit* the answer to my 2nd question is members.fiawec.com but that says theres no current stream either. also, unrelated http://blackflag.jalopnik.com/the-fascinating-way-this-quadruple-amputee-will-drive-a-1782186560  *4th edit* its finally giving me a stream Basticle fucked around with this message at 13:34 on Jun 18, 2016 |
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Jun 18, 2016 13:20
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Ford has a stream and they are using the radio le mans for commentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq8Slcs84Ic
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Jun 18, 2016 13:31
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It just started raining really heavily
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just lol if you're relying on that dumpster fire Fox to watch this
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Is there a place to sign in to my WEC account in the app on an iPad? I bought the stream, works on my phone, but every time I try to open in the iPad it just asks if I want to create an account, restore, or buy. Restore does zero, sign up doesn't have an option for sign in, etc...
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Stupid paid stream wont stay full screen for me; if I click anywhere else it goes back to window mode
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Got a bunch of energy drinks, got the WEC stream through my desktop to the living room TV, ready to do this. As there are a bunch of IndyCar drivers in the race and there's no IndyCar race this weekend, should we use #ics for IRC chatting?
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uwaeve posted:Is there a place to sign in to my WEC account in the app on an iPad? I bought the stream, works on my phone, but every time I try to open in the iPad it just asks if I want to create an account, restore, or buy. Restore does zero, sign up doesn't have an option for sign in, etc... On the left hand side, the very last tab, which looks like the outline of a human head, should have it.
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Maaaaan I wanted rain, but not enough rain for a SC start
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