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I'm really disappointed by the media reaction to the UK Jo Cox murder by the right-wing extremist. Like basically if this dude was brown or something this would've been a terrorist assassination. Instead, this dude is "mental ill" even though he has a stable and long-term association with far-right/neo-nazi groups and is known within the circles which legit talk about their political opponents (the left wing) and "traitors". I've even been called a "traitor" in Australia. Like it's good that he's going for a Psych eval, there could be potential mitigating factors etc. but we shouldn't lose focus of the violence and aggression that these hate groups poo poo out.
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Recoome posted:I'm really disappointed by the media reaction to the UK Jo Cox murder by the right-wing extremist. Like basically if this dude was brown or something this would've been a terrorist assassination. Instead, this dude is "mental ill" even though he has a stable and long-term association with far-right/neo-nazi groups and is known within the circles which legit talk about their political opponents (the left wing) and "traitors". I've even been called a "traitor" in Australia. Yeah it's pretty loving ironic that when people point out that Monis and a bunch of other lone wolves didn't actually have any connections with radical Islamic groups and in Monis' case followed a completely different Islamic sect to the group he claimed to represent they're accused of being moral relativists who won't point to the real issues.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Yeah it's pretty loving ironic that when people point out that Monis and a bunch of other lone wolves didn't actually have any connections with radical Islamic groups and in Monis' case followed a completely different Islamic sect to the group he claimed to represent they're accused of being moral relativists who won't point to the real issues. Well I mean every case is different, so it's almost impossible to generalise here but the initial media reports on e.g. Monis vs. Thomas Muir are completely different, which is kind of my point. Also the general ease of attributing blame towards extremist elements of the Brown People's Religion that we don't like as opposed to the reluctance to go "hey, these people here are calling for a civil war and extermination of the left wing traitors".
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Jun 19, 2016 05:10
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Anidav posted:Oh look, a forwarded email from my Grandfather Your granddad seems pretty bright. Makes me glad my grandfathers both died before the internet was a thing
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Recoome posted:Well I mean every case is different, so it's almost impossible to generalise here but the initial media reports on e.g. Monis vs. Thomas Muir are completely different, which is kind of my point. it's almost like the media is racist like the populace
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Jun 19, 2016 08:10
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Political business as usual in 2016 islamophobic Australia.
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Jun 19, 2016 08:17
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A phobia is rational if they (extremists) really do want you dead.
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Jun 19, 2016 08:28
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LibertyCat posted:A phobia is rational if they (extremists) really do want you dead. Agreed Note it's not us having an irrational fear of offending Islamists. We recall the banks refusing us Eftpos services, ticketing services walking away from signed agreements, booked and paid venues cancelling in the last minute, paid advertising in the media refusing to publish without notice - this is the reality in 2016 Australia when we speak critically about the ideology we must not criticise. The islamophobes in the true sense of the word are cowards in the media, the regressive left in academia and morally bankrupt politicians, who can't see further than the next opinion poll. Is this the Australia we want to hand over to our children?
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Jun 19, 2016 08:30
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LibertyCat posted:A phobia is rational if they (extremists) really do want you dead.
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Jun 19, 2016 09:04
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Cartoon posted:Less than 10 billion in total taxes and royalties, but in rough terms yes? As to whether the Arts pays more taxes you get an enormous amount of discretion as to where you draw that particular fence. I suspect if you limited it to companies whose prime activity was in the arts then the figure would be less than a couple of billion which isn't to suggest the mining sector isn't tiny compared to the arts sector. Here's an article on taxation and the Arts which goes into enormous detail except for the figure you seem to want. It does highlight the issue of what counts towards 'Arts'. Mining royalties aren't taxes, exactly. They're payment for access to economic inputs - essentially a fee charged for extraction of raw material. It's like how when you tap your Opal card for a train trip, you're not being taxed per se - you're paying for use of a publicly-owned service. Mining royalties are the same thing. In terms of comparing to arts funding, it's more equivalent to the cost of paint, supplies and software.
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Waaaah the Christians are out to get me
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LibertyCat posted:A phobia is rational if they (extremists) really do want you dead. actually you're just racist
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Jun 19, 2016 09:18
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LibertyCat posted:A phobia is rational if they (extremists) really do want you dead. Heil, freunde. Wie gehts?
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It's not rational to fear something that has virtually no chance of happening even if some random person wants it to happen.
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Jun 19, 2016 09:45
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Recoome posted:Heil, freunde. Wie gehts? Sehr gut, und sie?
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Quantum Mechanic posted:Mining royalties aren't taxes, exactly. They're payment for access to economic inputs - essentially a fee charged for extraction of raw material. It's like how when you tap your Opal card for a train trip, you're not being taxed per se - you're paying for use of a publicly-owned service. Mining royalties are the same thing. In terms of comparing to arts funding, it's more equivalent to the cost of paint, supplies and software.
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Jun 19, 2016 09:52
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I0wae57nJ0 "Who just wants to get ahead with an investment property!" How out of loving touch do you have to get to run an ad on this on TV?
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Jun 19, 2016 10:40
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Great strategy LNP, tell everyone to get more investment properties then watch as the bankruptcies roll in. Sure is a sound "economic pedigree" being displayed there.
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Anidav posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I0wae57nJ0 "I reckon we should just see it through and stick with this mob for a while" A ringing endorsement
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Jun 19, 2016 10:46
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AY yeah mate stick with de mob do I sound legit aussie yet pls vote me.
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Jun 19, 2016 10:48
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Jun 19, 2016 10:56
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Anidav posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I0wae57nJ0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRJPvNf7rfs
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Anidav posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I0wae57nJ0 scoff.gif
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Jun 19, 2016 11:14
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http://www.theguardian.com/australi...tisation-attack Turnbull has dropped the plan to privatise the payment system for Medicare
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Jun 19, 2016 11:19
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You Am I posted:http://www.theguardian.com/australi...tisation-attack If Labor are smart (they aren't) they'll now attack Turnbull over this decision as it shows that he will fold at the first sign of resistance. Or that he's putting up policy that he doesn't believe in enough to give his full support in the face of a challenge. Basically paint him as the spineless opportunist that he is.
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Periphery posted:If Labor are smart (they aren't) they'll now attack Turnbull over this decision as it shows that he will fold at the first sign of resistance. Or that he's putting up policy that he doesn't believe in enough to give his full support in the face of a challenge. Basically paint him as the spineless opportunist that he is. I assume this is another one of those dream scenarios that was made up in an alternate reality thread.
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You Am I posted:http://www.theguardian.com/australi...tisation-attack When you have to deny you're doing something you've already lost that argument
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You Am I posted:http://www.theguardian.com/australi...tisation-attack Bob Hawke is essentially a nuke when it comes to campaigning
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Jun 19, 2016 11:48
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Jumpingmanjim posted:Bill Shorten Reportedly Seen Playing ‘Panda’ While Dutching Up ALP Range Rover I want to live in the world where this is true.
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Anidav posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I0wae57nJ0 Lmao is that actually running on tv?
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Tgent posted:Lmao is that actually running on tv? Yup, saw it a few times this evening during the Bond marathon.
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Tgent posted:Lmao is that actually running on tv? "I reckon we should just see it through and stick with the current mob for a while" catchy slogan.
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Mithranderp posted:"I reckon we should just see it through and stick with the current mob for a while" Pause for a moment and reflect on how many spin doctors/focus group analysts/PR dickheads spent how many hours, and were paid how many dollars, to eventually come up with this finely-tweaked line.
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And on the topic of "stick with this mob," I've noticed that over the past few days the ~*~*~The Narrative~*~*~ in the media seems to have settled on "Labor is doing well, but there's not enough dissatisfaction in the populace to vote out a first-term government." Which very much strikes me as the media gallery being hung up on the last election and not properly analysing this one.
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Anidav posted:I find the betting odds strange given it's a coin toss and highly unlikely to mimic 2013 preference flow. I raised this the other day and you gave me a grab bag of reasons why it shouldn't matter.
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I mean where the gently caress does the coalition get off talking about stability when they're the party that has now legitimised knifing an unpopular PM as bipartisan policy
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I'd like to meet the demographic this ad is supposed to be reaching out to lmao
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Mithranderp posted:"I reckon we should just see it through and stick with the current mob for a while" https://youtu.be/qABA0X6IzxU
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