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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Is, "He's a libertarian," really not enough? Like if that doesn't do it, I can't imagine pointing to the ways he's acted like a libertarian would really help. Yeah that's my problem, these desires to vote for Lionface are there for a reason, which makes it really difficult to persuade for an alternative. That is a really great resource, thank you for that, I really hope that helps highlight some area's they may be in conflict with Ze Lion.
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Seagull posted:if you know someone who's actively voting for leyonhjelm they're too far gone They say life is a curse, this is why.
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Maybe point to how poo poo he is at being a libertarian? Something like his voting record on voting very strongly against letting landholders say no to mining and gas exploration? As well as the obvious stuff like his support of the current detention regime for asylum seekers, depending on whether your friend is WhiskeyWhiskers fucked around with this message at 10:23 on Jun 23, 2016 |
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Maybe point to how poo poo he is at being a libertarian? to be fair, almost every libertarian I've ever encountered has been pretty poo poo at being a libertarian for various reasons.
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Chicken Parmigiana posted:I empathise with her cynicism and scepticism, and I don't fault her as a person for like... being confused, and trying to figure things out, and having blind spots, and sometimes getting it wrong, etc. etc. -- but christ, why would I want to read any of that poo poo? You can't play My Generation this long and it not getting silly either, and if she's half as intelligent as that, she knows it. It's exactly the kind of rambling rubbish you see from other political columnists and we don't give them a pass. I totally understand she may not want to grow up but that doesn't add anything to the conversation. Playing the amateur card only works for so long. She's out of touch with her own generation let alone anyone else's.
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Redcordial posted:I'm in need of some assistance regarding how best to persuade, or at least, best inform some people I know on why they shouldn't vote for Leyonhjelm. 
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Just got a glossy mail out for the Libs (they sure love mailing me crap) and from the guy they are putting up they don't really think they can win Perth. Also apparently he is running on a state platform in a federal election. That or leaning on "Malcolm's plan".... His very secret plan.
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norp posted:Just got a glossy mail out for the Libs (they sure love mailing me crap) and from the guy they are putting up they don't really think they can win Perth. Always identify as a soft liberal vote to them whenever you can. Make them waste their time and resources on you.
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norp posted:Just got a glossy mail out for the Libs (they sure love mailing me crap) and from the guy they are putting up they don't really think they can win Perth. Their Perth candidate really meets the stock standard criteria of "male Liberal candidates must closely resemble thumbs"
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annabel crabb for campaign cabinet has a few journos in a bar drinking cocktails including sam maiden, heh
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Zenithe posted:to be fair, almost every libertarian I've ever encountered has been pretty poo poo at being a libertarian for various reasons. don't think I've ever met one who was actually libertarian they're just all FYGM
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Zenithe posted:to be fair, almost every libertarian I've ever encountered has been pretty poo poo at being a libertarian for various reasons. idk, as far as I can tell 'libertarian' means being a gigantic blubbering white privileged baby and every single one I have met has performed that role to a tee
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norp posted:Just got a glossy mail out for the Libs (they sure love mailing me crap) and from the guy they are putting up they don't really think they can win Perth. Even malcolm is running on a state platform because he has nothing to offer, he's sticking his nose way into the victorian cfa thing
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The libs actually haven't bothered to send me anything. I've gotten plenty from Kate Ellis and Robert Simms but maybe they've just given up on this seat. I vaguely remember getting a really hilarious one I think in 2010 from their candidate saying he could really relate to voters in the CBD because he once owned an investment property here  There was also a photo of his daughters at the horse races in formal dresses and those stupid hats with some quote from them like "Dad's such a card! He's always talking about politics and how he can improve things!"
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Authorised by T Nutt, Canberra
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The pirate party for the NSW senate are in group R.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP3e-OdXPrU NEW AD
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THE PLAN VOTE FOR US REMEMBER THE PLAN
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Only the Coalition can form a Stable Government, we'd never knife our leaders unlike filthy Labor.
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I'm walking down the corridor, when suddenly the PM jumps out and starts rattling out lists at me. I back away slowly.
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Anidav posted:THE PLAN 
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Redcordial posted:I'm in need of some assistance regarding how best to persuade, or at least, best inform some people I know on why they shouldn't vote for Leyonhjelm. Shouldn't you just point out his stance for decreased government gun regulation in light of the US? We have restrictions for a reason.
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David Lion Helm wants to abolish the minimum wage and restore diplomatic relations with the ROC (Taiwan) as the One True China.
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I'm going to be legit sad when labor screw up this election, because a year ago I would have said I'll probably never see negative gearing reform and now they've gone and got my hopes up.
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Redcordial posted:I'm in need of some assistance regarding how best to persuade, or at least, best inform some people I know on why they shouldn't vote for Leyonhjelm. You could talk about the deal he cut with Abbott that allowed BIG GOVERNMENT to be able to take the biometric samples, like blood or saliva, from children and the disabled without their guardian or an independent witness present. He literally expanded the scope of the government while eroding the rights and freedoms of those who needed it most for a new shotgun.
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it's my right to murder other people with a stick that goes bang
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Amoeba102 posted:The pirate party for the NSW senate are in group R. how arrpropriate pre-emptive: hi hungry, my name is QUACKTASTIC
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Andrew Elder has gone quiet on his blog. I was hoping for some more juicy Liberal news/rumours
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QUACKTASTIC posted:how arrpropriate Yeah, I was going through the ballot with my partner and she burst out laughing when I got to the pirates and their ticket. She reckons it was intentional.
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Is there an online HTV for greens in Franklin?
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 Oh look they are wheeling out the witch buzzword again Good ol Liberals.
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Ugh, look at brexit and imagining Australia doing that but for gay rights is making GBS threads me
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SynthOrange posted:Ugh, look at brexit and imagining Australia doing that but for gay rights is making GBS threads me I can totally imagine a gay rights advocate getting murdered on the street here 
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Negative Gearing Reform, and not cutting the company tax rate to 25% are really loving good reasons to hope Labor wins this election. Because once you cut that tax rate, you'll never get it back up to where it needs to be.
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Who knows, there might be a decent amount of hope after all. I was having a beer with my Dad last night and despite being a country person who reads the telegraph and generally I can't talk to about politics without wanting to stab myself said "That Shorten might actually win, I saw him speaking at something and he was very down to earth and approachable. Whether Turnbull thinks hes just better than us" Colour me surprised but if this starts being the view of people far out in the country, who knows what'll happen!
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I'm mildly hopeful of a Labor-Greens minority government but then I see Shorten wussing out on the Medicare privatisation stuff (he wouldn't commit to it on 7:30 last night) and I worry again. Just because Turnbull denies it doesn't mean they aren't thinking of it. They've been instituting policies for the past three years that are chipping away at Universal Healthcare. What's the downside? If you win the election saying that Libs were planning to privatise Medicare, good job, well done. If the Libs win and privatise Medicare, you're vindicated. If they don't, everyone will have forgotten by 2019 anyway.
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Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull says Coalition MPs will still be able to vote against gay marriage, even if voters back it in a plebiscite. Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull says Coalition MPs will still be able to vote against gay marriage, even if voters back it in a plebiscite. Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull says Coalition MPs will still be able to vote against gay marriage, even if voters back it in a plebiscite. loving lol
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Ah yes the old bait n switch
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Seagull posted:the plebescite is a several million dollar excuse for homophobes to talk poo poo If only parliament could be run on such an efficient budget
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