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masam posted:How did you get techniques above 21 at level 18 though? Where did I do that? It's probably an error.
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D tabia, level 17 elite with beat own as a lv20 technique is one. I believe
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Max tech level is character level + 3, Tabia is a LV17 Elite, 17 + 3 = 20. It checks out.
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Herp derp I'm an idiot and forgot that it was plus three. I have t right for my players and my npcs just looking at it it didn't make a whole bunch of sense in my head. Sorry prof! Also since this is the valor thread is anyone planning on a forum or online game?
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masam posted:is anyone planning on a forum or online game? There was a brief DBZ Super game a couple months ago, but it didn't last - I generally think Valor's more suited to roll20 than PBP. I'd totally run something myself but I'm already running several games unrelated to the forums, so I don't have the time.
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Still really want to find a game for this, preferably for roll20 as you noted, but finding anyone talking about this game is seemingly impossible outside this forum and google is useless. Specifically the name makes it basically impossible to find anything about the game itself searching for it. Cirina fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Jul 3, 2016 |
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I'm at least toying with the thought of making an attempt at a Valor game, but to date the extent of my active familiarity with the system is said Dragon Ball game. I'm game to give it a whirl in some one else's game if there's a cool pitch, but if I did try to run it, it probably wouldn't be immediately, just because I sort of play with systems by myself for a bit before I try running them.
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I'm currently running a Persona game for my IRL gaming group with Valor; once I've worked out the kinks and gotten some experience with roll20 I'll probably scavenge it for useful material and run it here. Don't honestly know when that's going to be, though.
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I'm drat near positive that if I told my roommate there was the POSSIBILITY of a persona game in valor he would join the forums just to play. Dudes obsessed with persona games.
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masam posted:I'm drat near positive that if I told my roommate there was the POSSIBILITY of a persona game in valor he would join the forums just to play. Dudes obsessed with persona games. BeholdTheVoid and I are actually co-running a pair of connected Persona games right now! His leans more Persona 3, mine leans more Persona 4. We just hit level 9. In case it's at all useful or interesting, the mechanics I'm using for PC Shadow confrontations:
e: I just remembered I posted an excerpt from this very campaign earlier in the thread, so, less new info here than I thought. Quinn2win fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Jul 4, 2016 |
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masam posted:I'm drat near positive that if I told my roommate there was the POSSIBILITY of a persona game in valor he would join the forums just to play. Dudes obsessed with persona games.
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TheArchimage posted:I think if there was a Persona game recruiting on the forum it would immediately sell about twenty Valor books. The last Persona game I'm aware of that recruited here saw something on the order of forty apps. This could actually be right, since the reason each of the writers are running one is that there were too many interested players for one game but just enough for two.
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So it turns out a Master class enemy with Repositioning attacks and an improved Damage increment really put the fear of god into a party, especially when the party tank couldn't make it and the other front-liner respecced. They spent the entire combat running around the room as the boss tried to punt them like footballs into and through the terrain. One particularly lucky attack brought one of the PCs from full to critical health in one blow. The battle turned pretty dramatically once the boss got to critical health and Berserker kicked in; its armor and defenses were so weakened it almost didn't get another turn. But the players won and gained entrance to the Velvet Room, so they were perfectly happy. I'm still mostly playing around with the system to see what's possible, but designing enemies and gimmicks is a real joy. Next time I'll have them face a minor enemy which can use the blood of its enemies to buff or heal itself and a mini-boss who can separate their head from their body to set up counter-attacks. Very worth it.
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What's the point of the muscular strike, intuitive strike, etc. modifiers, exactly? Does it mean they must use that attribute to defend without substitution?
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Nope, they're just there if you want to substitute which attack attribute you want to use for some reason. At least, that's what I recall the answer being when that question was asked in the F&F thread. There's probably some edge cases where you want to build a core with a specific attribute for the modifier bonuses but would prefer to use a stronger attribute for the attack and think it'd be worth using a level for that. Cirina fucked around with this message at 07:51 on Aug 10, 2016 |
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I always thought the use of those modifiers was that certain techniques interact differently with certain damage types, like using a Spirit Damage Core to get more range on the Line modifier but using Mind to attack.
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CHaKKaWaKka posted:I always thought the use of those modifiers was that certain techniques interact differently with certain damage types, like using a Spirit Damage Core to get more range on the Line modifier but using Mind to attack. Theoretically yes, but I'm having trouble thinking of hypothetical techniques where that kind of tradeoff is really worth it. High Muscle characters who want a good ranged attack could take an Agility/Spirit technique to turn their penalty into a bonus while taking only a minor hit in damage, or in Season 1 you could build a Mind technique to get the early access to Smart AoE and replace the attack roll with an attribute you're actually good with. Otherwise it's probably more cost-effective to just forgo the bonus and just build it with a high attribute to start. On a side note I was planning to run an encounter where the boss' head detaches from their neck and floats around the room (an Attack Node); it then changes shape into the heads of the PCs to Mimic their techniques. Refraction Limit (attack can't be used directly, has to be channeled through a Refraction Point) is mechanically a perfect fit for this but it's limited to Season 2, and we're still in Season 1. If I adapt Refraction Limit to work with Attack Nodes instead, is that going to cause a really obvious problem I'm not seeing?
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TheArchimage posted:On a side note I was planning to run an encounter where the boss' head detaches from their neck and floats around the room (an Attack Node); it then changes shape into the heads of the PCs to Mimic their techniques. Refraction Limit (attack can't be used directly, has to be channeled through a Refraction Point) is mechanically a perfect fit for this but it's limited to Season 2, and we're still in Season 1. If I adapt Refraction Limit to work with Attack Nodes instead, is that going to cause a really obvious problem I'm not seeing? It would work fine - Refraction Point itself is an S2 skill if I remember correctly. NPCs and especially NPC Masters and Elites can freely ignore season restrictions (like the invisible goblin fan club a boss of a campaign I'm in had). That said you may consider tweaking the Stamina cost reduction for making that change... AweStriker fucked around with this message at 14:25 on Aug 10, 2016 |
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I might also consider making the head a Companion, then giving the boss a Mimic technique with Companion Limit.
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ProfessorProf posted:I might also consider making the head a Companion, then giving the boss a Mimic technique with Companion Limit. This might work better than my original plan, as having the head be targettable but not have its own HP means the players have the option to disable it without adding additional bookkeeping on my end. Thanks!
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 Valorous Foes kickstarter is live!Relatedly, literally everything in our storeenvy store is on sale right now. Quinn2win fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Sep 15, 2016 |
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How easy would it be to model Stands as per Jojo's Bizarre Adventure in this system?
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:How easy would it be to model Stands as per Jojo's Bizarre Adventure in this system? Houserule: Everyone gets the skill "Companion" for free, and if it gets hit, instead of being disabled, the user takes the damage as if they were hit themselves. And you're good to go.
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Hard to tell - nine months later, does the PDF have bookmarks yet?
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bewilderment posted:Hard to tell - nine months later, does the PDF have bookmarks yet? Not on the .pdf from DriveThru, or at least not my version which I just got.
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Hello Valor thread! Lots of things are going on behind the scenes that I can't really talk about right now, but here's a fun thing I've been sinking the last few months into: Really in-depth API/character sheet scripting for running Valor on Roll20. poo poo you get:
Disclaimer, this is unofficial as hell and probably still full of bugs, but I'm still actively working on it. If nothing else, it's the fastest known way to create NPC sheets in a hurry.
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ProfessorProf posted:Hello Valor thread! Lots of things are going on behind the scenes that I can't really talk about right now, but here's a fun thing I've been sinking the last few months into: Really in-depth API/character sheet scripting for running Valor on Roll20. Man, I picked a good time to get the book then didn't I? This'll be helpful for whenever I get around to rounding up my players for a DBZ game.
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Okay, so instead of DBZ we're doing a Berserk-style game. The character sheet/API stuff has been really helpful in offloading some of the initial mathing edge for my players, easier for them to change around stats and figure out their build while looking at things. So I'm just posting again to say thanks a ton for the scripts!
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Ysengrin posted:thanks a ton for the scripts! You're welcome! There's still a lot of bugs, and it's in active development, so keep an eye on the link and you'll probably see the version number go up every couple weeks as I get more play data.
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Also, was there ever errata published? I ask partially because in the character sheets for roll20 the Improved Damage Increment skill progression is 4/2 instead of 5/3, and was wondering if that was a mistake or a change to the rules.
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Ysengrin posted:Also, was there ever errata published? I ask partially because in the character sheets for roll20 the Improved Damage Increment skill progression is 4/2 instead of 5/3, and was wondering if that was a mistake or a change to the rules. There's a semi-official errata list that's probably going to get published once the next book comes out (which might take a while, since our kickstarter was a flop), and it's included in the API. The rules tweaks aren't finalized, but the list looks something like this. On my to-do list for the API is adding a setting that disables the errata and lets you play by RAW.
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Thanks for the pastebin! Shame about the kickstarter, I was looking forward to Foes.
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Foes is still going to happen, it's just going to take a lot longer now that it isn't pre-funded.
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As someone who has been playing with Prof I'm putting together an "Unofficial Official Errata List" so that people know what is happening with certain changes. I was also the person who hassled Prof about the Improved Damage Increment changes the most, so you can thank me for that one.  (notably, it's getting changed to 4/2 to 4/2 because Ive been rigorously testing it in a campaign Prof's running and its a weeee bit too powerful as-is.)I haven't finished it yet, but I'll throw it up here when I'm done. Monathin fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Feb 12, 2017 |
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Double-Post, but worth it, The Unofficial Changelog of Official Changes is more or less live right now. As far as I know between both Void and Prof, these are the main "balance changes" (with added reasoning) that are going to be making it to an updated errata list as of right now. Disclaimers abound: This is an unofficial list and obviously not officially endorsed as errata, and this list is obviously not final. Other changes may make their way down the pipe, some changes might get rolled back as testing proves they're less feasible than thought, and this list doesn't take into account minor errata on a various number of things (of which I am told there are numerous), only major balance changes. For those that don't wanna jump to the doc, the quick list is as follows:
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Any chance these changes could be made to a .pdf copy of the book, to avoid having an unofficial reference sheet around?
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John Lee posted:Any chance these changes could be made to a .pdf copy of the book, to avoid having an unofficial reference sheet around? As I understand it (so take with a huge grain of salt), that's the plan, but since the Kickstarter didn't manage to get where it needed to go the schedule's getting pushed back a bit as the work on VCF takes precedence.
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So last Friday I ran a game, and everyone had a blast. PCs were the officers of their own little mercenary band made out of 50 flunkies grouped by unit class. First session ended with them killing their potential employer and sacking the military camp, then selling their actions to their enemies. Had a morale meter for the battles, both to let people use their skills (one of the players took inspire and focused on commanding groups of units) and so that the mass combat could be abstracted a little. Having the character sheet was nice because a lot of the players weren't fans of doing math but loved messing around with the roll20 sheets to figure out powers, and made a team that really synergized well. One player now even wants to GM their own game, based on Armored Core.
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Ysengrin posted:One player now even wants to GM their own game, based on Armored Core. Full mecha support is on the eventual timeline, but in the interim I'm planning a game based on Code Geass, so I created a quick-and-dirty framework for making it work. You can see it here, it shouldn't be hard to adjust it for Armored Core.
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ProfessorProf posted:Full mecha support is on the eventual timeline, but in the interim I'm planning a game based on Code Geass, so I created a quick-and-dirty framework for making it work. You can see it here, it shouldn't be hard to adjust it for Armored Core. Ohhh, this is really neat! My friend's plan is we'll have separate sheets for both our mecha and pilots, but I think once I get around to running my own mecha game I'll be cribbing that. Also, any recommendations for running mass combat? I've been treating "units" of flunkies as moving and rolling on the same turn order, and in mook v mook combat I just abstract it to "everyone in the unit rolls to hit, everyone in the unit rolls to defend, remove however many hits went through from the defenders without caring about the range" but any other thoughts? Edit: Said friend was interested in getting a physical copy of the book, is there anywhere that she can? The storenvy shop is "Under Construction." Ysengrin fucked around with this message at 00:43 on Feb 26, 2017 |
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