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prometheusbound2 posted:Western RPGs are my jam. I love well written stories that you can interact with and shape. If a game has a good, complex character and battle system I'll forgive a weak story(see, Wizardry, Divinity: Original Sin). If a game has a boring combat system with an interesting setting, good writing, compelling characters, and a wide latitude of player agency and narrative reactivity, I'm also game(see, Planescape: Torment). Hell, if a game lacks both but has intriguing exploration and a well developed world, I'm still game(see, Elder Scrolls). The thing is, I've played pretty much everything the genre has to offer, from the classics(and when I say classic, I think of the Infinity Engine games and Fallout as modern) to the AAA releases to the high profile Kickstarter games to obscure indie titles. Action based games like Mass Effect are awesome but my true love is turn based systems that most other could reasonably be called fiddly. Legend of Heroes is all one series, taking place chronologically (Trails in the Sky, followed by Trails of Cold Steel). Trails in the Sky just has PSP/Vita and PC versions, while Cold Steel's exclusively on PS3.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:while Cold Steel's exclusively on PS3. 
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The Colonel posted:isn't vii supposed to have a genuinely really good combat system It's the same combat system but a bit more refined, I've never noticed a huge difference tbh, except for it being better balanced without grinding or using plans to make enemies easier. But then my approach to all turn based combat it 'get it over with as quickly as possible' so.
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It's not exactly what you asked but, you didn't mention Witcher 3. Have you played that?
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Nihilarian posted:It's not exactly what you asked but, you didn't mention Witcher 3. Have you played that? Played and loved Witcher 3. And the Spiderweb games. Really, pretty much every western rpg.
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:Zeboyd has been getting much better since their first games. As evidenced by what?
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Valkyria Chronicles is very good but it's more of a strategy game than an RPG. There are a couple of RPG elements, like leveling up, but you level up every single character in a class, not each individual character. So when you level up your snipers, all of your snipers level up.
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prometheusbound2 posted:Legend of Heroes. It seems like there's two series, one that's released on PC and one that's on Playstation. Legend of Heroes is pretty linear, the story wasn't very gripping but I enjoyed it in a "Well I played Wild ARMs when I was a teenager" kind of way. I want to like the Persona series, but I've had consistently negative experiences. Never played Nier. I should probably play Valkyria Chronicles. Disgaea will scratch any sperglord character-building itches you might have. The level cap is 9999 and you can make walking death machines with whatever abilities you want them to have, provided you have the patience to reincarnate them over and over and--well, if you get into it, don't say I didn't warn you. But if you have a Vita, get it on there, because it seriously lends itself to lying-down-and-playing.
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The White Dragon posted:Legend of Heroes is pretty linear, the story wasn't very gripping but I enjoyed it in a "Well I played Wild ARMs when I was a teenager" kind of way. If you were playing Persona 1 and 2, 3FES and 4 are vastly different and much more accessible.
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Oh, my negative experience was P3-notFES and then Devil Survivor 1.
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For the people that have played 7th Dragon VFD, how's that game? Thinking of maybe picking it up once it comes out over here.
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Dr. Fetus posted:For the people that have played 7th Dragon VFD, how's that game? Thinking of maybe picking it up once it comes out over here. Do you like Etrian Odyssey? It's pretty much the same thing. I haven't played the recent one but I played the fan translated 1st one on DS, and it was alright, it seemed a bit easier than the EO games but doesn't hold your hand at all
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it's CALLED a PEE ESS TEE VEE
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prometheusbound2 posted:Western RPGs are my jam. I love well written stories that you can interact with and shape. If a game has a good, complex character and battle system I'll forgive a weak story(see, Wizardry, Divinity: Original Sin). If a game has a boring combat system with an interesting setting, good writing, compelling characters, and a wide latitude of player agency and narrative reactivity, I'm also game(see, Planescape: Torment). Hell, if a game lacks both but has intriguing exploration and a well developed world, I'm still game(see, Elder Scrolls). The thing is, I've played pretty much everything the genre has to offer, from the classics(and when I say classic, I think of the Infinity Engine games and Fallout as modern) to the AAA releases to the high profile Kickstarter games to obscure indie titles. Action based games like Mass Effect are awesome but my true love is turn based systems that most other could reasonably be called fiddly. My "favorite WRPG" list is pretty much identical to yours so I might have similar taste. -Legend of Heroes is a very linear story series with generally very good writing if you like realistic but somewhat light-hearted street-level stories that very organically turn into something bigger. They kind of remind me of well-written children's cartoons that way. The character progression isn't strictly linear in the games (in Trails in the Sky, for example, you level up these magic stones and can mix and match them to give you various things abilities and benefits) but it's still fairly simple and it's probably the biggest weakness of the series. -I never played a Persona game. P4 seems to be almost universally beloved across WRPG and JRPG fans though so I've been meaning to get to it myself. -Never played the others except Disgaea, which is pretty fun but should be treated more like a puzzle game than a strategy game because it works better that way. It has the systems to support a very detailed multi-class SRPG but it ends up being more fun if you don't lean too heavily onto those and instead play the game underleveled. The AI is notably the worst in any SRPG you'll ever play but again, I think that relates to the developers thinking of it more like a puzzle game. I'm going to make some recommendations. -Final Fantasy 7: it's iconic and just about everyone's played it but that's for good reason. The materia system is actually pretty fun to mess around with though granted, it was most fun to mess around with when I was 13 years old. By modern standards, it's not very complex. The story is alright if sparse and poorly translated by modern standards. -Final Fantasy Tactics - Tactics Ogre's weird younger brother that moved the gameplay systems both forward and backwards in a lot of ways. It's fun and it's very easy to get sucked into the job system. If you do play it, I recommend going into it blind since you've clearly played enough games that you can pick this stuff up without people telling you the OP ways to do or break things. -SaGa Frontier: non-linear, choose your own character from a roster each with their own story, obtuse as all hell skill/battle systems, pretty decent art and OK writing. It's a love-it-or-hate-it game but I think you might like it. -Xenoblade: Moderately deep battle/skill system, interesting world/lore, good writing and VA. If you try it, stay away from doing lots of sidequests because it will overpower you and make the game less fun. bloodychill fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Jul 7, 2016 |
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bloodychill posted:-Xenoblade: Moderately deep battle/skill system, interesting world/lore, good writing and VA. If you try it, stay away from doing lots of sidequests because it will overpower you and make the game less fun. The sequel is also an interesting game though not nearly as good as the first, It's extremely light on plot and characterization over having more of a quest focus. I'm kind of mixed on the approach.
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Mokinokaro posted:The sequel is also an interesting game though not nearly as good as the first, The plot is also missing its third act. The sheer quantity of city-filling side-content stories makes up for it a bit though. Unlike the barebones main plot, the sidequest stories tend to be really good.
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bloodychill posted:-Final Fantasy Tactics - Tactics Ogre's weird younger brother that moved the gameplay systems both forward and backwards in a lot of ways. It's fun and it's very easy to get sucked into the job system. If you do play it, I recommend going into it blind since you've clearly played enough games that you can pick this stuff up without people telling you the OP ways to do or break things. Don't forget making extra save files before the last battles of Chapter 3. That is potentially a game killer if you find out you cannot handle it.
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tactics ogre: knight of lodis
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Someone get Steambot Chronicles on PS4/Steam pretty please.
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Mill Village posted:Don't forget making extra save files before the last battles of Chapter 3. That is potentially a game killer if you find out you cannot handle it. Make extra save files for every game ever when you can because why wouldn't you
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Andrast posted:Make extra save files for every game ever when you can because why wouldn't you ahh, to be so young as to not know what memory cards were
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al-azad posted:Someone get Steambot Chronicles on PS4/Steam pretty please. This game is so good. I got scammed into getting the horrible PSP "sequel", and I'd do it again in a heartbeat just for a chance at a proper follow-up.
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The White Dragon posted:Never played Nier. Why not? Fix this problem.
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al-azad posted:Someone get Steambot Chronicles on PS4/Steam pretty please. YES I need more games where I can be mean as hell to my potential girlfriend and her sick mom? grandma? I don't remember and not have it effect my relationships and more instruments to play my really bad songs e: I guess IREM isn't a developer anymore 
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The Granzella guy made it sound like he wanted to try and get Steambot Chronicles 2 again after Disaster Report 4 is finally done (and I guess City Shrouded in Shadow, too) but didn't make any promises. Maybe, one day..
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Super Ninja Fish posted:Why not? Fix this problem. because i know cavia games and they're like sting games except they don't have sweet to go along with the bitter in the endings
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bloodychill posted:
Mokinokaro posted:The sequel is also an interesting game though not nearly as good as the first, TBH, I think these games aren't supposed to be just "do the story and ignore the sidequests for a while" given the amount and all the stuff they put into the quests. Plus, fwiw, when I tried to go through the first game without doing any sidequests I got gated by levels several times. It really feels like they intend for you to do a bunch of sidequests in the areas as you get to them. Not ALL of them (since frequently you can't do them all from the get-go) but definitely do some of them. The White Dragon posted:because i know cavia games and they're like sting games except they don't have sweet to go along with the bitter in the endings There's a tiny bit of sweetness I felt in Nier. Still pretty dour overall but it's not completely bitter.
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Hackan Slash posted:This game is so good. I got scammed into getting the horrible PSP "sequel", and I'd do it again in a heartbeat just for a chance at a proper follow-up. it was very good?? 
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The White Dragon posted:because i know cavia games and they're like sting games except they don't have sweet to go along with the bitter in the endings Sting games? Like WCW vs the World?
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Tired Moritz posted:it was very good??  YES!!!
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Super Ninja Fish posted:Sting games? Like WCW vs the World? STiNG, the company that made unique rpgs with innovative mechanics until they got bought by idea factory so they can poo poo out nepnep games at an accelerated rate
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There's some new WFF footage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUGSNxfnsFE Murder and capture baby chocobos for personal gain. The aesthetic is great, I hope the gameplay balance is good.
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Golden Goat posted:
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HGH posted:There's some new WFF footage: That Tidus summon took way too long but it made me smile. Everything about the game makes me smile. I just hope you can speed up the fights a bit though since it's a little too slow-paced.
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HGH posted:There's some new WFF footage: This game looks kind of ugly. The characters expressions are disconcerting.
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HGH posted:There's some new WFF footage: I'm ready to buy this game
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Well there goes my plan of beating dragon quest 7 before smt4:a comes out. Is it even possible to beat dq7 in four days?
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Linnaeus posted:Well there goes my plan of beating dragon quest 7 before smt4:a comes out. Is it even possible to beat dq7 in four days? Sure, if you don't sleep or do anything else. At all.
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Sakurazuka posted:96 hours would probably put you about halfway through DQ7 What is that, like, 2 bosses in?
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