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Spiritus Nox posted:It'll be a weird narrative if they're POC but their manifesto is all about Aliens and the Rapture and tinfoil hat poo poo and never mentions actual racial justice. Oh the news narrative will obviously settle on "BLM kills cops" whatever their motive is if they're POC, but I'd be morbidly curious to see the churns it would take to get there in that scenario. So that's a vote for a Nation of Islam splinter group then.
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disjoe posted:Someone who isn't as dumb as I am tell me, is there any chance we get an identity tonight? I'd guess earliest reliable ID at about 5-6 am.
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disjoe posted:Someone who isn't as dumb as I am tell me, is there any chance we get an identity tonight?
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Spiritus Nox posted:How easy is it to get your hands on a protest route? I wouldn't think it'd be that tough, but I've never tried. Timeline seems to be shooting starts, this guy finds a cop and turns his gun in, goes home, hears that he's being sought for questioning, and then turns himself into police. He did everything exactly how he should.
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Bryter posted:You sure are keen for a race war for someone who claims to prioritise mitigating black people's fears of being shot for being black. You say that as if there hasn't been a race war on black lives for 400 years. You just don't like it when the rabbit has the gun.
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Kobayashi posted:This is awful and it all feels so hopeless. Yesterday in my exasperatation I couldn't help but fantasize about some vigilante justice being done against the cops who keep murdering black people and now here we are with dead cops and it feels awful. I feel complicit in the racism that lets these kinds of shootings keep happening and guilty and stupid for wishing that something like tonight would happen and frustrated and powerless to do anything meaningful. Worst of all, I can't help but realize that my "worst of all" can't even begin to compare to what black people must internalize and deal with every day. I wish I knew how to channel all of this into something useful. You aren't a bad person for having those thoughts. In fact it's the opposite. Having those thoughts, not acting on them, and rejecting them are signs that you are a good and normal person. Go to a BLM rally. Try to convince your town/city to adopt body cams for police officers.
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McAlister posted:Soooo I was a network administrator for the NPS in college when 9-11 happened. Homeland security did some bullshit trying to see how easy to penetrate various federal networks were. I'm actually not sure 5% is a bad mark for the 2001/2002 time period
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ComradeCosmobot posted:I mean I'm glad this particular incident ended as peacefully and as nicely as it did but god drat if there isn't some sad unstated subtext here. A good guy with a gun was on scene at a mass shooting, his first action was to give the gun to the cops. There's probably a lesson here.
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Atrocious Joe posted:So that's a vote for a Nation of Islam splinter group then. I'd figure groups like that are more about terrorizing their own members/interests than trying to grab headlines.
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bango skank posted:You really are the worst, you know that? i mean this event is the logical conclusion (or maybe just an extension?) of BLMs gently caress everyone else philosophy, at least they didn't set anything on fire this time. and all over a dude who was literally on camera fighting the cops with a gun immediately at hand. really, are there any BLM events that don't devolve into shitshows? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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gfsincere posted:You say that as if there hasn't been a race war on black lives for 400 years. You just don't like it when the rabbit has the gun. U should stop talking dumb rahowa poo poo and get an ounce of an inkling of how the stupid future u want would turn out.
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semper wifi posted:i mean this event is the logical conclusion (or maybe just an extension?) of BLMs gently caress everyone else philosophy, at least they didn't set anything on fire this time. and all over a dude who was literally on camera fighting the cops with a gun immediately at hand. because it didn't take the first time 
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semper wifi posted:really, are there any BLM events that don't devolve into shitshows? Yes, there are.
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:U should stop talking dumb rahowa poo poo and get an ounce of an inkling of how the stupid future u want would turn out. Would that future look something like this? [url=]https://twitter.com/2tanks_dre/status/751294232866852864[/url] Go gently caress yourself.
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gfsincere posted:You say that as if there hasn't been a race war on black lives for 400 years. You just don't like it when the rabbit has the gun. The rabbit doesn't have the gun, you idiot. What you're agitating for isn't a race war. It would be a race slaughter. How can you possibly not get that? You cannot overwhelm the local & state authorities with violence: they will not stop killing you just because you choose to legitimize their ridiculous fear of you.
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May be nothing https://twitter.com/HaggertyCBS11/status/751296155066077188 Tiler Kiwi posted:I'd figure groups like that are more about terrorizing their own members/interests than trying to grab headlines. I don't think it's likely, I just like pointing out how crazy NoI philosophy is (was? They may have shifted closer to mainstream).
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semper wifi posted:i mean this event is the logical conclusion (or maybe just an extension?) of BLMs gently caress everyone else philosophy, at least they didn't set anything on fire this time. and all over a dude who was literally on camera fighting the cops with a gun immediately at hand. Yes, plenty. The rallies in Minnesota for a black man killed despite doing everything "right" have been without incident. So, you know, gently caress off.
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Throwing Turtles posted:A good guy with a gun was on scene at a mass shooting, his first action was to give the gun to the cops. There's probably a lesson here. He is black. It's the smart thing to do. There was another piece of throwaway video where they showed people running away. A black man was running away from the scene through a police line. A black man running saw the police and made sure to put his hands up as he ran through.
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Stereotype posted:Yeah they are throwing blame everywhere because again, some random guys with assault rifles just killed a ton of cops very easily. People are always loving confused. Killing people isn't hard. We're fairly fragile. Getting away with it is hard, but if you don't care about that...
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WHOOPS posted:Yes, plenty. The rallies in Minnesota for a black man killed despite doing everything "right" have been without incident. Don't respond to Swifi.
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Atrocious Joe posted:May be nothing Yeah they're fuckers, but they're "just" a cult.
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Voyager I posted:Don't respond to Swifi. His title change was $10 well-spent
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mdemone posted:The rabbit doesn't have the gun, you idiot. Lol you think less than 500k cops nationwide will slaughter 42 million people? Nope. If you thought Brexit was bad, something like that would destroy the US. Literally too many things that society relies on to function is on the back of underpaid black people. And if white people cant see the difference between going after racist cops and going after white people, that kinda speaks to the fact that the police are agents first and foremost agents of white supremacy, and that finally striking back against them IS the moral thing to do.
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Anyone who thinks a domestic insurrection against the US government would succeed in 2016 without pretty much the entire military defecting including the upper brass doesn't know what the gently caress they're talking about.
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JonathonSpectre posted:I wonder if we're going to hear about how the cops smoked weed and had weapons on them so this is regrettable but perfectly fine. Well it looks like multiple white fascists killing cops because said cops were actually doing their jobs, so... Either way, this is the loving Carpenter's Cup of mass shootings, so we're going to see the Very Serious People contort themselves in interesting ways. Maybe the Dallas Police Department will erase the stain and do honor to themselves. Right now MSNBC is trying to make it clear that this isn't their fault while also repeatedly bringing up their fear that it's rogue blm doing it.
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semper wifi posted:i mean this event is the logical conclusion (or maybe just an extension?) of BLMs gently caress everyone else philosophy, at least they didn't set anything on fire this time. and all over a dude who was literally on camera fighting the cops with a gun immediately at hand. 
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WHOOPS posted:Yes, plenty. The rallies in Minnesota for a black man killed despite doing everything "right" have been without incident. even i'm giong with ftp on that one so the protesters there were probably of a higher quality, or there were less of them gfsincere posted:Would that future look something like this? yeah i agree rahowa now gas the whites anything is preferable to slightly questionable arrests
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ErichZahn posted:Well it looks like multiple white fascists killing cops because said cops were actually doing their jobs, so... Where is this being said?
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Anyone who thinks a domestic insurrection against the US government would succeed in 2016 without pretty much the entire military defecting including the upper brass doesn't know what the gently caress they're talking about. 
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gfsincere posted:You say that as if there hasn't been a race war on black lives for 400 years. You just don't like it when the rabbit has the gun. No, I say that as if I had relatives killed in the conflict you're apparently eager to emulate. Scaling the victims of the troubles to America's population would leave a total of around 600000 dead were the conflict to be replicated on your shores. Assuming that the number black people killed in the violence is proportional to the black population overall (which is rather optimistic I feel), that's 65000 dead black people. If there is absolutely no reduction at all in the rate of unarmed black men being shot by cops in the USA, it would take 650 years for the black lives saved by your campaign to outweigh the black victims of your "solution". So yeah, when you say "look at what the IRA accomplished", you sound more like an angry young man than someone with any particular concern for anyone's life.
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gfsincere posted:You say that as if there hasn't been a race war on black lives for 400 years. You just don't like it when the rabbit has the gun. Just stopped by the thread for a sec and, yep, the guy with the Iron Man av is toughguying it up and essentially advocating for continued violence, keep doing you bud
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ErichZahn posted:Well it looks like multiple white fascists killing cops because said cops were actually doing their jobs, so... This post right here is why this is all poo poo. All over poo poo.
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If this was previously planned by a group waiting for a protest for cover it's weirdly close to what happened in BenghaziTiler Kiwi posted:Yeah they're fuckers, but they're "just" a cult. That offputting devotion does actually seem to help them keep crowds disciplined when they attend protests.
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Two posters have shown up who are eager for a race war, one on each side. They are ignoring each other to argue with the people who don't want a race war. How loving stupid is that.
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semper wifi posted:i mean this event is the logical conclusion (or maybe just an extension?) of BLMs gently caress everyone else philosophy, at least they didn't set anything on fire this time. and all over a dude who was literally on camera fighting the cops with a gun immediately at hand. No, it's more the logical conclusion of the police murdering black people with impunity and never facing any repercussions over it. I don't know how much of a poo poo eating mongoloid you have to be to blame one reaction to oppression on another reaction to that same oppression instead of the initial cause but then again having the most reprehensible opinions on every subject is kind of your gimmick, isnt it?
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Atrocious Joe posted:If this was previously planned by a group waiting for a protest for cover it's weirdly close to what happened in Benghazi I knew Hillary had something to do with this. e: sorry, Lyin' Crooked Hillary
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