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TMMadman posted:What are your suspicions? Honestly the main reason I think he is scum was from that bandwagon tunnel on d1 where he cried real baby tears and lived through the lynch. And now, here he is pushing a lynch on Tobbs and finding any little reason to lynch him.
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dongsbot 9000 posted:also my fake claim is survivor who wins if it gets to day 5
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Jul 26, 2016 15:05
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dongsbot 9000 posted:like I'll provide most of the details of my role just to establish I'm survivor and not SK because it's so fiddly
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Jul 26, 2016 15:06
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JimsonTheBetrayer posted:Honestly the main reason I think he is scum was from that bandwagon tunnel on d1 where he cried real baby tears and lived through the lynch. And now, here he is pushing a lynch on Tobbs and finding any little reason to lynch him. Except that my reasons are far from little. 1. He is an anti-town 3p, because it's the only way for his wincon to make any sense. 2. He was given a fakeclaim, which means his actual role is something town would not find favorable. 3. He just lied to try and defend his own fakeclaim
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Jul 26, 2016 15:08
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Absurd Revolver posted:Except that my reasons are far from little. Tell me how I lied.
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Jul 26, 2016 15:10
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:Tell me how I lied. Unlike dongsbot, who admitted to his fakeclaim before ever using it, you hid your actual role from us until the pressure was on. Plus, he was actually a survivor, just not with the wincon his fakeclaim provided. You lied to us about your claim, dongs did not.
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Jul 26, 2016 15:13
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Absurd Revolver posted:Unlike dongsbot, who admitted to his fakeclaim before ever using it, you hid your actual role from us until the pressure was on. God forbid someone not immediately self claim their role and ruin the rest of the game for themselves. tmm & ar for scum team calling it now.
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Jul 26, 2016 15:17
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dongsbot 9000 posted:i like how aa gives me fake claims for survivor Except survivor was his fake claim. His role was basically a pizza delivery man who had to make it to end game.
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Jul 26, 2016 15:20
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Absurd Revolver posted:Except that my reasons are far from little. how do u know that the truant is town?
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Jul 26, 2016 15:20
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JimsonTheBetrayer posted:God forbid someone not immediately self claim their role and ruin the rest of the game for themselves. I even stated dongsbot hosed up by full claiming. However, I think it is indicative of a difference in how the two players handled their roles. dongsbot thought his role was innocuous enough that he could full claim and survive, while Tobbs knew his role would get him lynched and pushed his fakeclaim.
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Jul 26, 2016 15:21
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Absurd Revolver posted:Unlike dongsbot, who admitted to his fakeclaim before ever using it, you hid your actual role from us until the pressure was on. He used his fake claim first. I actually think one of the scum is the truant, and if not, they'll never reveal their flavor now anyways. Why are you so upset that people don't want to lynch the 3P AR? Who has the most to gain from lynching 3P two days in a row? Only scum.
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Jul 26, 2016 15:22
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Absurd Revolver posted:Except that my reasons are far from little. You forgot: 4. He used a dayvig that he claimed was given to him, and that claim was refuted by someone with an uncountered claim of Inventor.
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Jul 26, 2016 15:23
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I'm not opposed to lynching someone other than Tobbs today, but it would have to be one of Tomm/Moat/Retro. Probably in that order. I don't really think AR is scum and felt his frustration on D1 was real because it gets irritating to catch early heat several games in a row. I think Tomm might not be a bad choice if we don't lynch Tobbs. He didn't give us any thoughts overnight and I've been wondering if he killed Kash to try to slow the game down some and because of the lovely way Kash attacked him on D1.
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Jul 26, 2016 15:23
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Jedit posted:You forgot: Also this is a huge reason to lynch Tobbs because the person he shot was confirmed town.
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Jul 26, 2016 15:26
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Jedit posted:You forgot: I'm not sure how to respond to this. I'm scum who made up two fake claims with two different alignments to hide the fact that I had a dayvig, rather than hold onto it and claim, uh, that I'm a townie with a dayvig?
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Jul 26, 2016 15:28
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TMMadman posted:Also this is a huge reason to lynch Tobbs because the person he shot was confirmed town. Slash would have joined the scum team.
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Jul 26, 2016 15:29
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the issue this game is that there's so much setup speculation. we have no idea what the setup is. we dont know what or how aa set up the game. sure, a flavor lyncher that has to lynch scum is more balanced, but we, as players, have no way to know. likewise, the setup speculation also diverts away from, you know, finding scum. like we should be, which is the way we actually win. scum want us to speculate about the setup instead of actually trying to kill them. so here are some of my thoughts on trying to find some gosh darn scum AR -was a little baby that  'ed to survive day 1 lynch-pushing the adahn lynch to kill a relatively unthreatening 3p (something scum RLY wants esp if it moves the game into lylo) -claims role d1 with not too much pressure, then says he failed n1. kinda odd, hard to tell if genuine or not. tomm -no real posts, can go either way. hes lurked scum and town b4 i think. -some1 saying "slash slash" doesnt make me think theyre scum just an fyi -lurker jerk adahn -lied about his role -possible fake claim as flavor lyncher? idk flavor claim -shot copped teen guy imgay -prob just a stupid 3p flavor lyncher tho. jimson -a few randy votes like on tmmadman and ar that kinda come out of nowhere. -has been kinda inconsistent w/ posting but the randy votes generally have some explanation to them. idk if i agree w/ them but i think they come from a town place. -my lover so i cant vote 4 him. rf -disappeared -same thing as tomm basically. hasnt posted so theres no way to find out their alignment -lurker jerk im good w/ an ar, tomm, or rf vote myself. the lurkers can be scum and well prob have to deal w/ them eventually.
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Jul 26, 2016 15:29
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:Slash would have joined the scum team. why r u believing imgay, noted shitposter and person who doenst take mafia seriously at all
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Jul 26, 2016 15:30
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flerp posted:how do u know that the truant is town? Because why would scum ever reveal their flavor in a flavor heavy game. Tobbs Gnawed posted:He used his fake claim first. They never would have revealed it in the first place you knob, it's a bad argument you keep dredging up. I'm upset because we killed a good 3p who could have helped us win, and yet you, a 3p who can only be anti-town, is still alive. Also, Town gains from getting a guaranteed hostile 3p out of the way before they can meet their wincon, and maybe once you're dead we can actually talk about lynching scum.
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Jul 26, 2016 15:31
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flerp posted:why r u believing imgay, noted shitposter and person who doenst take mafia seriously at all Because Kash said as much too, they were both town, and the only way for them to reveal that info would be to say "If one of us dies make sure you kill the other one."
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Jul 26, 2016 15:31
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:He used his fake claim first. Dongs fake claim is basically his real claim because most 13 player games don't last more than 5 days anyway. And town stands to gain from lynching a 3P because we can't be sure of your wincon. There's always the possibility that you're lying about being a 3P and you are actually scum.
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Jul 26, 2016 15:32
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:Slash would have joined the scum team. You don't know that at all.
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Jul 26, 2016 15:32
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:Because Kash said as much too, they were both town, and the only way for them to reveal that info would be to say "If one of us dies make sure you kill the other one." Ahhh yes, the word of noted truth teller Kash.
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Jul 26, 2016 15:35
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TMMadman posted:Ahhh yes, the word of noted truth teller Kash.
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Jul 26, 2016 15:37
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It's much more reasonable that Kash and imgay, football star and head cheerleader, were not in a masonry and that Kashuno made it up. Also imgay voted for Kashuno and said he would turn into a killer if she died as a joke. His flavor name of 'Slash' after I shot and killed him is just there to be funny. No chance that he would have turned into a slash-aligned player or self-aligned serial killer. Nope.
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Jul 26, 2016 15:39
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:It's much more reasonable that Kash and imgay, football star and head cheerleader, were not in a masonry and that Kashuno made it up. You didn't know his name was Slash until after you killed him. And yes, I'm basically positive that his name was Slash as a joke since he was the star QB. Plus it's a nice little reference to star NFL QB Kordell 'Slash' Stewart. His nickname was Slash because of his scrambling and running abilities.
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Jul 26, 2016 15:48
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the more u know
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Jul 26, 2016 15:49
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TMMadman posted:Ahhh yes, the word of noted truth teller Kash. Tmm why do u hate Kashuno soooo much lol
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Jul 26, 2016 15:57
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TMMadman posted:You didn't know his name was Slash until after you killed him. We'll see I suppose. You're playing with fire, though. Ask yourself again why AR wants a 3P lynched so badly and why he has no interest in finding the 2-3 scum who are in this game.
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Jul 26, 2016 16:00
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:I'm not sure how to respond to this. No, I'm saying you were given the dayvig by a scum Inventor. Consider: I'm Town and give boons, Dongsbot was 3P and gave boons. Logically it makes sense that there's also a scum player who gives boons, no?
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Jul 26, 2016 16:01
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JimsonTheBetrayer posted:Tmm why do u hate Kashuno soooo much lol I just like needling him. Although I'm pretty sure he's scum irl
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Jul 26, 2016 16:02
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TMMadman posted:I just like needling him. Although I'm pretty sure he's scum irl Oh I mean no loving doubt. I know him irl. Super scummy
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Jul 26, 2016 16:03
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if u play mafia ur scum irl
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Jul 26, 2016 16:03
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:We'll see I suppose. I really don't like how you keep insinuating town is going to lose if we lynch a claimed 3P. We don't actually know for a fact that you're a 3P and we only have your word about your wincon. Thats why it's almost always a safer play for town to remove any 3P sooner rather than later.
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Jul 26, 2016 16:05
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Jedit posted:No, I'm saying you were given the dayvig by a scum Inventor. Consider: I'm Town and give boons, Dongsbot was 3P and gave boons. Logically it makes sense that there's also a scum player who gives boons, no? I think it is a weird decision for AA to give people in the game access to the mod doc. But hey to each their own right?
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Jul 26, 2016 16:12
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TMMadman posted:I really don't like how you keep insinuating town is going to lose if we lynch a claimed 3P. Let me work this out for you then. I made up two fake claims, a 1-shot rolecop/alignment cop and a Principal with a governor ability who wants to lynch the truant to hide the fact that I'm scum with a dayvig that I used to shoot someone who said he would turn into a killer if his mason buddy died. Also, AA, why would you give a 3P alignment cop/rolecop as a fakeclaim? I can't use it, you know.
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Jul 26, 2016 16:16
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Jedit posted:No, I'm saying you were given the dayvig by a scum Inventor. Consider: I'm Town and give boons, Dongsbot was 3P and gave boons. Logically it makes sense that there's also a scum player who gives boons, no? I don't think dongs actually gave boons. I think he just gave a slice of pizza to people as a fun diversion to the Survivor role.
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Jul 26, 2016 16:16
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Are we still arguing about lynching Tobbs? I'm just gonna say that I think it's a dumb idea, just like I thought lynching Dongsbott was a dumb idea. Also, just for Tobbs, would it bother you if I called you Adahn? I know you vcanged your name, so I don't want to be disrespectful, but I always type Adahn first because that's what you were originally named.
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Jul 26, 2016 16:19
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and honestly adahn1986 hasnt earned the right to be anti-dongs
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Li Dawny posted:Are we still arguing about lynching Tobbs? I'm just gonna say that I think it's a dumb idea, just like I thought lynching Dongsbott was a dumb idea. I only changed it because someone was able to use it to find personal information about me which made me uncomfortable.
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