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Doc Block posted:He secretly lived, and *did* go to Montana, but instead of raising rabbits he began digging up dinosaur bones, and got so good at it and learned so much about dinosaurs that he was asked to come inspect some rich a-hole's theme park on some island down by Costa Rica... The less said about the political officers weird crossdressing house where he was roommates with Meatloaf the better
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they likely tested the caterpillar drive on other subs first or retrofitted older subs for it, while the Typhoon was the first class specifically built around it
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Internaut! posted:sending an experimental boat loaded with nukes to park off DC and not stocking enough food for the crew is actually 100% pure soviet
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My gripe is that Sean Connery should have known that GRU could be infiltrating anywhere, especially a lowly cook
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I didn't appreciate how insane the other Russian sub was until I read more about it. http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/russias-alfa-class-was-the-terrifying-hot-rod-sub-of-th-1637540064 Lead-bismuth cooled fast reactor.
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The Russian-to-English language transition was dope.
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John Denver Hoxha posted:So, was Jack Ryan or Captain Rameus right about Admiral Halsey? Rameus was right, but for narrative reasons and because Ronald Reagan, we had to be shown that Alec Baldwin smart and USA always right, gently caress you commie. Halsey was acting with extreme negligence and almost got thousands of US sailors, airmen, etc... killed at Leyte because he thought his dick was big and tried throwing it around Halsey was extremely lucky that US sailors and pilots back then were balls of steel crazy bastards, and also lucky that the Japanese were even more incompetent than Halsey's mistake.
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# ? Aug 12, 2016 21:12 |
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Crimson Tide: Also A Good Sub Movie As a matter of fact, I may spin up 1-5 and 20-24 this weekend
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I love the discussion of that little exchange, I thought it was an interesting side debate within the film (and those little moments were part of why I could stomach the over the top jingoism that had its way of coming out in clancy books... I miss the guy even if I wouldn't agree politically or think his novels were anything amazing) You bring up a good point, basically Halsey was integral in winning the Pacific in WWII even if he blundered his way through many of the encounters (something to be said for luck I guess) and I doubt that Clancy would be much for talking disrespect on him. I also just remembered, (it was a Gawker article so please don't get too mad at the source) some folks at the CIA wrote a parody version of it made more realistic in terms of how office politics work and how much investigation into soviet naval uniform fitting procurement is involved http://gawker.com/read-the-cias-parody-version-of-tom-clancys-most-famo-1440143480 [it's very long, and it isn't like hilariously funny, but I think the fact that bored people in the CIA did it was pretty funny, here are a few quick chapters] quote:Here it is—the CIA's tribute to one of its biggest fans—in its entirety.
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The spy who loved me is a good movie with submarines
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# ? Aug 12, 2016 21:48 |
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Hector Beerlioz posted:The spy who loved me is a good movie with submarines And Caroline Munro was in it
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numberoneposter posted:I didn't appreciate how insane the other Russian sub was until I read more about it. The alpha was a cool looking expensive pile of poo poo.
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John Denver Hoxha posted:And Caroline Munro was in it Curd Jürgens omg He was also a sub captain in The Enemy Below, another cool and good submarine movie Robert Mitchum was trying to blow up his sub
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Applewhite posted:Raiders of the Lost Ark would have turned out exactly the same way even if Indiana Jones had stayed at home. Applewhite, no. Remember how they the Nazis were digging in the wrong place? That because the staff they built was based on the measurements from th image of the amulet that was burned in that guys hand. The staff they made was the wrong length so the map room led them to dig in the wrong area. Since Indy could read both sides he was able to discover the ark and because of that the Nazis found it. If indy stayed at home they never would have found it. E: dang if indy stayed at home they would have just stolen the amulet from marion no problem and would have found the ark, wow ur right.
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Vasily Tokarev posted:I'll take a look through my kindle at current stuff and write up what's good. Please do, this is all good poo poo. Reading The Lieutenants now and wow, Griffin is really determined that everyone knows exactly what guns every character has on them at all times
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i think you will find that if indy had stayed home he couldn't have told the americans where the ark was once it had melted everyone's face. so the nazis would have hung onto it and it would be in a huge german warehouse instead of an american one then when the warehouse got bombed to bits in 1945 it would have blown up the ark and unleashed face-melting demons on the whole world
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the one thing I remember about this movie is that it starts in russian and switches to english on the word "armageddon" which is the same in both languages. pretty clever imo. also the vhs tape we had was red.
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Clipperton posted:Please do, this is all good poo poo. Reading The Lieutenants now and wow, Griffin is really determined that everyone knows exactly what guns every character has on them at all times WEB Griffin's obsession with making all of his characters obscenely wealthy and able to just hop in the family jet to go save the day gets a little wearisome.
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Where can you find pleasure Search the world for treasure Learn science technology Where can you begin to make your dreams all come true On the land or on the sea Where can you learn to fly Play in sports and skin dive Study oceanography Sign up for the big band Or sit in the grandstand When your team and others meet In the navy Yes, you can sail the seven seas In the navy Yes, you can put your mind at ease In the navy Come on now, people, make a stand In the navy, in the navy Can't you see we need a hand In the navy Come on, protect the mother land In the navy Come on and join your fellow man In the navy Come on people, and make a stand In the navy, in the navy, in the navy (in the navy) They want you, they want you They want you as a new recruit If you like adventure Don't you wait to enter The recruiting office fast Don't you hesitate There is no need to wait They're signing up new seamen fast Maybe you are too young To join up today Bout don't you worry 'bout a thing For I'm sure there will be Always a good navy Protecting the land and sea In the navy Yes, you can sail the seven seas In the navy Yes, you can put your mind at ease In the navy Come on be bold and make a stand In the navy, in the navy Can't you see we need a hand In the navy Come on, protect the motherland In the navy Come on and join your fellow man In the navy Come on be bold and make a stand In the navy, in the navy, in the navy (in the navy) They want you, they want you They want you as a new recruit Who me? They want you, they want you They want you as a new recruit But, but, but, I'm afraid of water. Hey, hey look Man, I get seasick even watchin' it on the TV! They want you, they want you in the navy Oh my goodness. What am I gonna do in a submarine? They want you, they want you in the navy In the navy Yes, you can sail the seven seas In the navy Yes, you can put your mind at ease In the navy Come on be bold and make a stand In the navy, in the navy Can't you see we need a hand In the navy Come protect the motherland In the navy Come on and join your fellow man In the navy Come on be bold and make a stand
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I read it when I was young. I thought it was good. The film is good too, although they miss a whole plot arc about the other soviet submarine which I think they pretend to scuttle or something (can't quite remember). The other books of his I read I enjoyed too. But then I was like 15.
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numberoneposter posted:I didn't appreciate how insane the other Russian sub was until I read more about it. 105% on the reactor possible. But not recommended.
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numberoneposter posted:I didn't appreciate how insane the other Russian sub was until I read more about it. it was a piece of poo poo, like all russian subs its one of those sort-of conspiracies that admiral rickover pretended to be terrified of the soviet submarine fleet to ensure his own programs would get funding from congress
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Ewan posted:The other books of his I read I enjoyed too. But then I was like 15. 15 is the demographic that can read and understand what is happening in Clancy's books, but lacks the more developed thought processes that tell them "this is schlock".
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# ? Aug 13, 2016 15:22 |
Clear and present danger is the best Clancy movie.
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cheesetriangles posted:Clear and present danger is the best Clancy movie. I would argue murky strife
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LegoPirateNinja posted:it was a piece of poo poo, like all russian subs I enjoy how the article goes on about how 'quiet' the alpha was. lmbo Did you know that one alpha is the longest sub in the world? it was cut in half
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Just started reading "Flight of the Old Dog" by Dale Brown. It's the first in a long series of aviation / spy novels. The writing is okay I guess. The plot is a little out there, but it was written in the 80's so I can forgive it. The star of this book is the Old Dog- a top secret B-52 test platform that they use to test weapons / gear on before it gets loaded onto real planes. The blunt nose has been replaced by a sharp SST style cone, rotatory AMRAAM and HARM launcher, radar absorbing skin, this new tech called GPS, and other poo poo. My one huge gripe is that this guy really likes the phrase "RING LASER GYRO." because everything has one... including a train.
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I don't think it's a proper bookstore unless there are Clive Cussler novels in the bargain bin
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LegoPirateNinja posted:it was a piece of poo poo, like all russian subs That being said the audacity of their projects is commendable, the Alpha being one of them.
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ded posted:I enjoy how the article goes on about how 'quiet' the alpha was. lmbo funny thing about that "caterpillar" drive in the movie: the russians didnt have anything like it, but we did.
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Vasily Tokarev posted:Just started reading "Flight of the Old Dog" by Dale Brown. It's the first in a long series of aviation / spy novels. The writing is okay I guess. The plot is a little out there, but it was written in the 80's so I can forgive it. Dale Brown is really mediocre, but at least he hasn't gone nuts to the point of having a talking self-aware B70 Valkyrie poke its nosecone up McNamara's butt for being the guy who cancelled the B70 program IRL. Which happens in a novel that both exists and wasn't written by Chuck Tingle.
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blowfish posted:Dale Brown is really mediocre, but at least he hasn't gone nuts to the point of having a talking self-aware B70 Valkyrie poke its nosecone up McNamara's butt for being the guy who cancelled the B70 program IRL. Which happens in a novel that both exists and wasn't written by Chuck Tingle. Keep going, I'm almost there
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Hector Beerlioz posted:I don't think it's a proper bookstore unless there are Clive Cussler novels in the bargain bin I have read every single one of these books. I like when the IRL Clive Cussler shows up in the book to help out with something small.
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These pictures from inside a Typhoon class sub are amazing: http://ru-submarine.livejournal.com/17486.html Highlights include: - missile launch tube hatch - lots of buttons - the reactor room - torpedo rack and tube hatch - submarine-themed video game for sailors to play off duty - swimming pool
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Do nuke subs just operate submerged all the time when at sea?
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yes underwater they move faster, they can't be detected by satellite, and they're impervious to weather
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"like a swimming pool in a submarine" feels like it should be an expression but I guess i'ts not
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Vasily Tokarev posted:
Lmbo. What's a good one to read?
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Hector Beerlioz posted:Lmbo. Everyone reads Sahara. I'm a fan of Dragon: In 1945, a B-29 bomber carrying a third nuclear bomb to Japan is shot down over the sea off the coast of Japan. In 1993, terrorists want to restore Japan's former glory by taking out the United States economy by planting nuclear bombs. If you're looking for airport fiction, you can't go wrong. There's a ton of them. He's super old now. His kid (who he named after his main character in the books loving lol) is writing them now.. and there are a ton of different spin-off series. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clive_Cussler Scroll down to the bibliography for the list Vasily Tokarev fucked around with this message at 16:51 on Aug 15, 2016 |
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Clipperton posted:Cheers for this. What are some good mil fic books written in the last few years? Looking for small-unit level stuff with proper combat, not a bunch of scenes of guys walking down Pentagon corridors or terrst-hunting in New York or whatever Not really what you specified, but I remember Without Remorse as being my favorite Clancy novel. Mostly because it's about one man trying to redeem himself through both a personal and a military mission, rather than Clancy's normal wanking over military hardware. And Down Periscope is the best submarine film.
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