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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:I meant the party. It'll take a couple of years, as all these things to. Disentangling from a 300+ year old union can't just happen in an instant.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:I meant the party. Sorry, I was being silly. They'll probably hang around for a couple of years because of inertia but the SNP is not a bunch of people who agree on most things. There's a lot of Tartan Tories from the rural north-east, there's the more recent converts down in the central belt who tend to be more social democrats, and it'll all come crashing down before too long assuming we get independence. That's the saving grace really. Or I hope so anyway. Maybe they can stay together purely under the force of power. I hope not.
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Prince John posted:Totally. It's her entire reason for being. If you'd booked at a proper hotel that obeys basic trading regulation and so on in the first place, instead of chancing on this spiv, then they couldn't have cancelled on you. Or at least would've walked you to a substitute if their room was unexpectedly unavailable.
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Prince John posted:Totally. It's her entire reason for being. This is a report from the "Residential Landlords Association": The RLA posted:For many members, the key reason for joining the RLA is to support a landlord's association which is leading campaigns on behalf of private residential landlords on issues of importance to the sector. Hmmmmm. The 61% of properties available for lets more than 3 months claim is a bit suspect. Is that just based on the listing calendars not being blocked out? Edit: This article suggests there are approx 900k private rental households in London. This would suggest the 22k "Full Homes" listings on AirBnB accounts for 2.4% of the market assuming every single one of them would be rented out normally otherwise. Lord of the Llamas fucked around with this message at 11:23 on Sep 2, 2016 |
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Apparently Corbyn said a thing about afterwork drinking cultures and how they are gendered and naturally this means that Corbyn hates mothers who want to be Aspirational and Get On and is the real sexist. Just to preface the next fifty pages of the thread.
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J_RBG posted:Apparently Corbyn said a thing about afterwork drinking cultures and how they are gendered and naturally this means that Corbyn hates mothers who want to be Aspirational and Get On and is the real sexist. Just to preface the next fifty pages of the thread. They're also a bit poo poo for non-drinkers, and can create an unpleasant working environment.
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Pesmerga posted:They're also a bit poo poo for non-drinkers, and can create an unpleasant working environment. sounds like somebody's afraid of a little bit of banter lads lads lads lads p.s. that's not sexist because Carol on our team is also one of the lads, she doesn't complain when we keep making jokes about dicks she's not like the others Angepain fucked around with this message at 12:08 on Sep 2, 2016 |
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What did he actually say? I saw some kerfuffle about it on Twitter but can't find any articles about it nor the controversial quote itself.
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Pesmerga posted:They're also a bit poo poo for non-drinkers, and can create an unpleasant working environment. Interestingly enough I'm going to such an event tonight where one of the two people it's for doesn't drink, so he's not coming. To his own farewell party.
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Just have an irn bru and don't be a fanny.
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Coohoolin posted:Just have an irn bru and don't be a fanny. this can work, but only if the people with you aren't a fanny to you when they notice you're not drinking. There were a lot of people like that in my student days but I'm sure in the grown up world of work such people have greatly matured and have become fully professional well-adjusted adults, right?
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Being around a load of people who are drinking when you don't drink can be hell, tbh. Depends on the person - at uni one of the guys couldn't drink due to medication but he came out with us and by the end of the evening you couldn't tell he was sober from the way he was there on the dancefloor with the rest of us. That said, sometimes everyone becoming a braying jackass while you're not even enjoying a buzz can be a real mood killer.
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Coohoolin posted:Just have an irn bru and don't be a fanny. You've never tried not drinking at one of these events - unless you claim you're on antibiotics (and even then, some prick will start asking which specific ones with absolutely no medics knowledge in order to prove you can still drink), you're considered either weird, suspicious or a recovering alcoholic if you don't drink with everyone else. This can be a huge problem in law firms, which are already known for having lovely working cultures.
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Pesmerga posted:They're also a bit poo poo for non-drinkers, and can create an unpleasant working environment. Are you expected to go to the pub with your workmates in the UK? Doesn't sound very fun. I like my work and free time to have a crisp, clear line between them and no overlap. But granted I am an antisocial nerd who prefers to spend evenings in my workshop or my family, rather than the pub. But, I am also an uncle scrooge level cheapskate and a pub sounds like a waste of hard earned cash I'd rather use to buy tools with.
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His Divine Shadow posted:Are you expected to go to the pub with your workmates in the UK? Doesn't sound very fun. I like my work and free time to have a crisp, clear line between them and no overlap. Some companies yes, other companies no. These aren't formal things it's just a case of someone in the office going "anyway fancy a pint after work?" and a bunch of regulars going with the occasional special guests.
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Sounds like the gendered bit is more about how women have to get home to their kids after work and not that they don't want to go to after work drinks, and so the root cause here is unequal sharing of childcare duties, not afterwork drinks being inherently bad.His Divine Shadow posted:But granted I am an antisocial nerd who prefers to spend evenings in my workshop or my family, rather than the pub. 
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Coohoolin posted:Just have an irn bru and don't be a fanny. Somehow you manage to take "being a social butterfly" & still be massively loving goony about it so well done I guess. Some people are utterly insufferable if you're there and not drinking, convinced you're trying to make them feel bad. Which is super fun when you're not drinking because you're on some meds but don't really want to talk about why you're on them with work colleagues. Also, when you're not drinking and around a bunch of people who are drinking you realise how loving dull drunk people are, unless they are making a total tit of themselves & barely able to walk. And honestly I don't see much value seeing my colleagues in that state. The only times I ever did the post-work drink was after 13 hour night shifts. Something about a 7am pint is just better than a 7pm pint. RobotNinjaHornets posted:An old Owen Smith tweet has just resurfaced Surprisingly funny for a politician to be honest.
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Guavanaut posted:Sounds like the gendered bit is more about how women have to get home to their kids after work and not that they don't want to go to after work drinks, and so the root cause here is unequal sharing of childcare duties, not afterwork drinks being inherently bad. Most definitely, yes.
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His Divine Shadow posted:I like my work and free time to have a crisp, clear line between them and no overlap. Here's the thing, long hours are just plain bad for work/family balance and guess which gender won't, on average, feel the need to balance it quite so much? Here's what I'm talking about.
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Coohoolin posted:Just have an irn bru and don't be a fanny. irn bru is awful
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forkboy84 posted:Surprisingly funny for a politician to be honest. Funny or no, essentially tweeting that the female FM should shut up like that isn't exactly the best look
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Tesseraction posted:Being around a load of people who are drinking when you don't drink can be hell, tbh. every Lent I give up alcohol, and one time I went out with my friends clubbing in London. At one point, I was stood stone cold sober with my mates wife while he and two of my friends were having a drunk conversation 50 yards behind us and refusing to move. I turned to his wife, who was also fairly sober and said "loving hell, are we always like this when we're drunk?" to which she gave me the most incredulous look and said "this is actually not bad for you lot". I felt quite ashamed to be honest
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RobotNinjaHornets posted:Funny or no, essentially tweeting that the female FM should shut up like that isn't exactly the best look I can't check the dates on my phone, is this a follow up to "You're only on this panel because you're a woman", or is it a prequel? He's probably not an actual misogynist, but if he was the labour leader, he'd be getting loving savaged over stuff like this. And more deservingly than "man can't tell Ant from Dec"
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Not Operator posted:I can't check the dates on my phone, is this a follow up to "You're only on this panel because you're a woman", or is it a prequel? The insult to Leanne Wood was back in 2015, that tweet is from April. And he's not a full-blown misogynist but he does seem to gravitate towards casual misogyny, which really isn't much better, especially for a politician in the public eye.
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forkboy84 posted:Some people are utterly insufferable if you're there and not drinking, convinced you're trying to make them feel bad. Maybe that changes in some career sectors or if you head a few miles over where being a different religion makes you some kind of alien. A tidal wave of piss upon the east coast of England.
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Jose posted:irn bru is awful I will fight you for making me agree with Coohoolin but Irn Bru is, after whisky & tablet, the only good thing to come from Scotland. Guavanaut posted:Most jobs I've worked recently around Leicester have had enough Muslim or trad. Baptist employees that having a few people say "no thanks, I don't drink" or wanting to go for food instead of a pub isn't that unusual. Yeah, working in ethnically diverse Glasgow was 100% different to the attitudes in utterly homogeneous Inverness, where English white settlers are quite exotic. A lot easier to bail out with little comment if you're in an area with a reasonably large muslim population.
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When I worked in a care home the after works drinks often turned into staggering home at about dawn while trying to find people to cover for you for the shift starting in half an hour that weren't also out on the piss with you. It wasn't healthy but it was a vent for stress. When I worked for the dwp it was more of a weird clique thing where some people were invited and some were not, so I quickly found excuses. Drinking culture in the UK is hosed up, largely because most people, myself included, don't have healthy relationships with booze. After work drinking, especially in high stress or high drama jobs is asking for trouble. I just drink during work hours now.
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Lord of the Llamas posted:This is a report from the "Residential Landlords Association": So? Just cos you don't like someone doesn't automatically make everything they say wrong. e: the times article is better http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/buy-to-let-landlords-move-in-on-airbnb-7q2dpv92p quote:Almost half the properties on Airbnb in Britain’s big cities are being offered by landlords as they convert long-term rentals into lucrative holiday lets, a report suggests. Cerv fucked around with this message at 13:18 on Sep 2, 2016 |
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DesperateDan posted:I just drink during work hours now. Working in finance I see.
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forkboy84 posted:I will fight you for making me agree with Coohoolin but Irn Bru is, after whisky & tablet, the only good thing to come from Scotland. quote:Yeah, working in ethnically diverse Glasgow was 100% different to the attitudes in utterly homogeneous Inverness, where English white settlers are quite exotic. A lot easier to bail out with little comment if you're in an area with a reasonably large muslim population. Whether they'll be more understanding of abstaining from drink or will use their newly reasoned liberation to be dicks to the traditionalists I don't know.
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His Divine Shadow posted:Are you expected to go to the pub with your workmates in the UK? Doesn't sound very fun. I like my work and free time to have a crisp, clear line between them and no overlap. What do you do in your workshop Cool stuff, I assume
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Guavanaut posted:Lorne sausage too. And Mogwai. And Teenage Fanclub were alright.
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forkboy84 posted:I will fight you for making me agree with Coohoolin but Irn Bru is, after whisky & tablet, the only good thing to come from Scotland. Peter Capaldi
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ThaumPenguin posted:What do you do in your workshop Furniture mostly, and homemade tools to help me make more stuff.
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