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Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

Regardless of how GiTS turns out, it makes me think - has there ever been a hollywood adaptation of an anime that turned out any good? The only other thing I can even think of that's been adapted was DBZ, and, uh...

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Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

i wonder what people's excuses will be when the sao movie is about white people

Sharkopath
May 27, 2009

Parallax posted:

i think it looks kinda cool, way more minimalist than i expected
I'd have to wait for the whole thing but those clips seem like the director is really into very long shots which is neat.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Spiritus Nox posted:

Regardless of how GiTS turns out, it makes me think - has there ever been a hollywood adaptation of an anime that turned out any good? The only other thing I can even think of that's been adapted was DBZ, and, uh...

edge of tomorrow was based on a light novel and was okay

Sharkopath
May 27, 2009

Spiritus Nox posted:

Regardless of how GiTS turns out, it makes me think - has there ever been a hollywood adaptation of an anime that turned out any good? The only other thing I can even think of that's been adapted was DBZ, and, uh...

I think the capacity is there for good anime movie adaptions, it's just that it's incredibly unlikely to happen, but also would be very hard to rate favorably against the original like all condensed adaptions do.

I think the best bet would be an original story set in the setting, instead of a straight adaption.

Sharkopath
May 27, 2009

Endorph posted:

edge of tomorrow was based on a light novel and was okay

you mean Live. Die. Repeat. now

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

Endorph posted:

edge of tomorrow was based on a light novel and was okay

Oh yeah, I forgot about that one. The name change keeps throwing me off, when I even remember that movie exists.

Sharkopath posted:

you mean Live. Die. Repeat. now

I thought the original name was "All You Need Is Kill?"

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Sharkopath posted:

you mean Live. Die. Repeat. now
them flipflopping so hard on the name of all things kind of shows the problem with hollywood anime adaptations

they always seem weirdly ashamed of tying to themselves to anime and all its quirks and eccentricities, to the point that they often wash out a lot of the original's humor and character (see: dbz.)

Sharkopath
May 27, 2009

Spiritus Nox posted:

Oh yeah, I forgot about that one. The name change keeps throwing me off, when I even remember that movie exists.


I thought the original name was "All You Need Is Kill?"

The original title was All You Need Is Kill, they decided that wouldn't work so they changed it to Edge of Tomorrow, but then since it didn't do mega hot when it came time for home release they re-titled it with the original poster tagline, which I don'tr remember ever happening before in film.



so the official listing on imdb and tomatoes is Live.Die.Repeat: Edge of Tomorrow

Sharkopath fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Sep 22, 2016

Parallax
Jan 14, 2006

Sharkopath posted:

I think the capacity is there for good anime movie adaptions, it's just that it's incredibly unlikely to happen, but also would be very hard to rate favorably against the original like all condensed adaptions do.

I think the best bet would be an original story set in the setting, instead of a straight adaption.

i think anime has just as a good of a shot as anything else as being good or not, it just depends on the talent doing the adaptation. condensed adaptations aren't inherently unfavorable to material either, it just depends on how its handled

Cialis Railman
Apr 20, 2007

Sharkopath posted:

The original title was All You Need Is Kill, they decided that wouldn't work so they changed it to Edge of Tomorrow, but then since it didn't do mega hot when it came time for home release they re-titled it with the original poster tagline, which I don'tr remember ever happening before in film.



so the official listing on imdb and tomatoes is Live.Die.Repeat: Edge of Tomorrow

Starring Tom Cruise, Emily Blunt and breakout talent Edgeoftomorrow.

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

Yeah, the obvious main challenge in a hollywood anime adaptation is the simple fact that anime is a niche interest, particularly in the west, and niche products simply aren't often going to get the budget they need to bring on the kind of talent required to handle the challenges involved in adapting a TV show into a movie - even without the difference in art style.

Sharkopath
May 27, 2009

Parallax posted:

i think anime has just as a good of a shot as anything else as being good or not, it just depends on the talent doing the adaptation. condensed adaptations aren't inherently unfavorable to material either, it just depends on how its handled

The main thing I''m thinking about when I say unlikely is how long most of these projects are stuck in development hell for, I just think it's very rare for long stilled projects to really come together when they are finally released.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Sharkopath posted:

The original title was All You Need Is Kill, they decided that wouldn't work so they changed it to Edge of Tomorrow, but then since it didn't do mega hot when it came time for home release they re-titled it with the original poster tagline, which I don'tr remember ever happening before in film.

I think the reason they changed it from the original was because the people responsible for marketing this movie were recently coming off the awkward faux pas of having a trailer featuring a movie theater shootout run before Dark Knight Rises, so they kinda wanted to play it safe. They felt that the title "All You Need Is Kill" could be construed as directly promoting violence, so they changed it.

Xinder
Apr 27, 2013

i want to be a prince
I never expected superhero movies to take off the way they did, but look at Marvel now.

At this point I feel like anything could be good if the people behind it actually care about it enough.

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

Xinder posted:

I never expected superhero movies to take off the way they did, but look at Marvel now.

At this point I feel like anything could be good if the people behind it actually care about it enough.

Yeah, Anime movies totally could become a thing, it's just going to have to meet the same challenge that comics did and have someone make a really loving good movie out of what probably won't be the easiest set of building blocks.

I'd kind of like to see someone try Gundam, someday.

Parallax
Jan 14, 2006

Sharkopath posted:

The main thing I''m thinking about when I say unlikely is how long most of these projects are stuck in development hell for, I just think it's very rare for long stilled projects to really come together when they are finally released.

I feel like there's more of an impetus to get that stuff in production now as studios look for anything that's already has some established name or interest around it. like GitS has been in development since 2008, but here it is

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Spiritus Nox posted:

Yeah, Anime movies totally could become a thing, it's just going to have to meet the same challenge that comics did and have someone make a really loving good movie out of what probably won't be the easiest set of building blocks.

I'd kind of like to see someone try Gundam, someday.

G-Savior? :v:

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Spiritus Nox posted:

Yeah, Anime movies totally could become a thing, it's just going to have to meet the same challenge that comics did and have someone make a really loving good movie out of what probably won't be the easiest set of building blocks.

I'd kind of like to see someone try Gundam, someday.

About 16 years too late.

Xinder
Apr 27, 2013

i want to be a prince

Spiritus Nox posted:

Yeah, Anime movies totally could become a thing, it's just going to have to meet the same challenge that comics did and have someone make a really loving good movie out of what probably won't be the easiest set of building blocks.

I'd kind of like to see someone try Gundam, someday.

A good Gundam movie would make me so happy, you don't even know.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010

Edge of tomorrow is a good film

Xinder
Apr 27, 2013

i want to be a prince

yeah but a good one

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011


...Don't make fun of me, everybody else forgets G-Savior exists, too. :colbert:

But seriously, the right director could totally make 0079 or Zeta Gundam into a kickass hollywood movie or two.

Xinder
Apr 27, 2013

i want to be a prince

Spiritus Nox posted:

...Don't make fun of me, everybody else forgets G-Savior exists, too. :colbert:

But seriously, the right director could totally make 0079 or Zeta Gundam into a kickass hollywood movie or two.

I feel like 0079 would work best as either two movies or (as current movie studios vastly prefer) a trilogy.

Better still if they mix in some Origin stuff as well.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

But who would be a Char?

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007
i think all they need to make a successful gundam movie is a decent budget and two very handsome actors to play the gundam pilot and a char.

Xinder
Apr 27, 2013

i want to be a prince
I saw Pacific Rim in theaters 3 times.

The thirst is real.

AnoHito
May 8, 2014

Waffleman_ posted:

I think the reason they changed it from the original was because the people responsible for marketing this movie were recently coming off the awkward faux pas of having a trailer featuring a movie theater shootout run before Dark Knight Rises, so they kinda wanted to play it safe. They felt that the title "All You Need Is Kill" could be construed as directly promoting violence, so they changed it.

I thought it was because "All You Need is Kill" sounds pretty drat Engrish-y and they wanted a title that sounded less dumb to native speakers. It's also weird that my parents recommended it to me, therefore making it a time where my parents told me about a good anime.

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

Xinder posted:

I saw Pacific Rim in theaters 3 times.

The thirst is real.

Words cannot express the joy I felt at seeing how much my dear old mother enjoyed that big dumb movie. :3:

chumbler
Mar 28, 2010

I would hope they don't Hollywood up the action scenes and make them colorless, too loud, and difficult to track. But I'm mostly just worried that this hypothetical gundam movie would go to Michael Bay.

Spiritus Nox
Sep 2, 2011

chumbler posted:

I would hope they don't Hollywood up the action scenes and make them colorless, too loud, and difficult to track. But I'm mostly just worried that this hypothetical gundam movie would go to Michael Bay.

That would be the tragedy. Although it would be morbidly, tragically funny to see Tomino react to a Michael Bay Gundam movie.

Sharkopath
May 27, 2009

Spiritus Nox posted:

That would be the tragedy. Although it would be morbidly, tragically funny to see Tomino react to a Michael Bay Gundam movie.

I don't think he'd watch it.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

It would be the natural evolution of this picture I can't find anymore except in this lovely quality.

Sharkopath
May 27, 2009

In my mind, instead of going to see the big hollywood gundam adaption, tomino is having a nice cup of tea on his porch.

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

Sharkopath posted:

Who died and made you mod

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Win.

gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

Spiritus Nox posted:

Words cannot express the joy I felt at seeing how much my dear old mother enjoyed that big dumb movie. :3:

ha, my mother really liked it too

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

imo i think more thoughtful 12-episode shows with no s2 or convoluted side material would make for better anime movies than big franchises

like a hollywood anohana movie could be good.

Xinder
Apr 27, 2013

i want to be a prince

Endorph posted:

imo i think more thoughtful 12-episode shows with no s2 or convoluted side material would make for better anime movies than big franchises

like a hollywood anohana movie could be good.

Perhaps, but movie studios tend to be looking for the cash cows that will last for as long as possible, so a larger franchise is far more appealing to them.

Sharkopath
May 27, 2009

Endorph posted:

imo i think more thoughtful 12-episode shows with no s2 or convoluted side material would make for better anime movies than big franchises

like a hollywood anohana movie could be good.

most of the japanese anime adaptions are like that, usually taking the first handful of volumes of shoujo, stuff thats simple to shoot and grounded in the real world

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JordanKai
Aug 19, 2011

Get high and think of me.


Parallax posted:

i think anime has just as a good of a shot as anything else as being good or not, it just depends on the talent doing the adaptation. condensed adaptations aren't inherently unfavorable to material either, it just depends on how its handled

I think there's even room for improvement when adapting an anime or manga into film. The two live action Gantz movies combined are the best thing to come out of that series, in my opinion. That's not Hollywood obviously, but there's no reason they couldn't pull off the same.

Even if history dictates the opposite. :(

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