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90s Cringe Rock: Nov 29, 2006

FractalSandwich posted:

Had this game passed the Bechdel test before that conversation between Welch and Limb, or did it take nine and a half hours just to get that far?

"a FETUS!" yells the fourth-dimensional god-being at the traumatised child

# ? Oct 3, 2016 07:02

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# ? May 18, 2024 01:39

FractalSandwich: Apr 25, 2010

90s Cringe Rock posted:

"a FETUS!" yells the fourth-dimensional god-being at the traumatised child

yes, this is exactly the kind of positive representation of women that games need more of. I'm glad you agree

# ? Oct 3, 2016 07:22

Mega64: May 23, 2008; I took the octopath less travelered,

And it made one-eighth the difference.

I'm glad Wet and Sam Raimi are really committed to their fake relationship.

# ? Oct 3, 2016 23:24

Pork Lift: Oct 9, 2007; Winner of the 2012
Highway Traffic
Prediction Razzies

Mega64 posted:

I'm glad Wet and Sam Raimi are really committed to their fake relationship.

Like wateyad and I

# ? Oct 4, 2016 19:05

Suspect Bucket: Jan 15, 2012; SHRIMPDOR WAS A MAN
I mean, HE WAS A SHRIMP MAN
er, maybe also A DRAGON
or possibly
A MINOR LEAGUE BASEBALL TEAM
BUT HE WAS STILL
SHRIMPDOR

Pork Lift posted:

Like wateyad and I

Your fake love is the realest I know. Wateylift 4 eva

# ? Oct 4, 2016 21:13

Great Joe: Aug 13, 2008

I'll continue to watch this LP willingly and on purpose

# ? Oct 5, 2016 12:55

wateyad: Nov 17, 2007; The power of the Outsider is

...dat ass

Episode 24: "Let's Hope There Are No Random Encounters"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TShgEqnpZhQ

# ? Oct 5, 2016 14:15

Thesaya: May 17, 2011; I am a Plant.

So, we're either on planet cyberpunk or planet Borg. Or something else. I am personally hoping for cyberpunk.

# ? Oct 5, 2016 15:22

Poulpe: Nov 11, 2006; Canadian Santa Extraordinaire

I picked up Star Ocean 5 on a whim because it was on sale.
Hoooo boy. Saying that SO4 is actually pretty good in comparison should be testament enough to what a hot mess that game is.

The only saving grace is that for the first time in the series the main female protag deviates a bit from "sheepish/demure waifu" personality-wise.

# ? Oct 5, 2016 17:29

Artix: Apr 26, 2010; He's finally back, to kick some tail! And this time, he's goin' to jail!

Poulpe posted:

I picked up Star Ocean 5 on a whim because it was on sale.
Hoooo boy. Saying that SO4 is actually pretty good in comparison should be testament enough to what a hot mess that game is.

The only saving grace is that for the first time in the series the main female protag deviates a bit from "sheepish/demure waifu" personality-wise.

I'm sorry? Star Ocean 5 has a lot of problems, most notably an incredibly obvious lack of budget, but I have a hard time calling it a worse game than SO4. The combat feels better (if a bit messy due to up to 7 people fighting at once), the crafting systems open up MUCH faster, you get your full party much faster, and in general it doesn't waste nearly as much of your time.

# ? Oct 5, 2016 17:43

Poulpe: Nov 11, 2006; Canadian Santa Extraordinaire

Artix posted:

I'm sorry? Star Ocean 5 has a lot of problems, most notably an incredibly obvious lack of budget, but I have a hard time calling it a worse game than SO4. The combat feels better (if a bit messy due to up to 7 people fighting at once), the crafting systems open up MUCH faster, you get your full party much faster, and in general it doesn't waste nearly as much of your time.

It just feels like everything added to the game was done as lazily as possible, and the things they did do don't matter!

The plot is so simple and the characters have next to no motivation for the things they do, and so far literally nobody has actual in-plot characterization
Except in very rare scenarios all plot is done in voiced lines while your character is able to haplessly walk within a zone of invisible barriers, all of these are unskippable
90% of the gameplay is walking between the four towns they could afford to put in the game, with the occasional dungeon stapled on nearby
Combat itself is simplified with AI-adjusting "role assignment" for strategizing your MMO battle team (which is always well received in every RPG it's in)
Most bosses have wide aoe instakill attacks to try to add any relevancy to said role assigment system
"Protect the party member" scenes, when all enemies beeline for that character and, again, you have at best limited control of your allies through AI roles
Crafting is pointless unless you choose to do postgame, you really don't need the bonuses it affords you, and even if you want to break the game over your knee you can simply spend the time you would spend collecting resources for crafting overleveling your party since there's no experience scaling
Sidequests are all "go defeat this/these monsters," either for them to die or to collect their spoils, with very rare exceptions

I could probably list more, but this is all just off the top of my head
I just feel like the entire thing is resting on lazy tropes and an incoherent plot and there's just nothing redeeming it

Poulpe fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Oct 5, 2016

# ? Oct 5, 2016 18:35

Pork Lift: Oct 9, 2007; Winner of the 2012
Highway Traffic
Prediction Razzies

Were almost at the point where I need to apologise and promise the game gets funnier and more interesting! I'm so excited to be ashamed of dead air!

# ? Oct 5, 2016 20:29

coleman francis: Aug 8, 2007; Tap tap
The ketchup bottle
None will come
Then axolotl; Hair Elf

Is Faize just secretly Canadian?

# ? Oct 6, 2016 01:15

FractalSandwich: Apr 25, 2010

Why is Sam Raimi talking about "secondary school"? I thought this game was translated by yanks.

# ? Oct 6, 2016 01:43

wateyad: Nov 17, 2007; The power of the Outsider is

...dat ass

Episode 25: An Ill Omen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxlOFdnsZ5E

# ? Oct 8, 2016 16:58

Admiral H. Curtiss: May 11, 2010; I think there are a bunch of people who can create trailing images. I know some who could do this as if they were just going out for a stroll.

Vesperia does definitely have the "you can't hold this item, do you want to put it back?" prompt.

# ? Oct 8, 2016 17:14

Polsy: Mar 23, 2007

iirc it would have left the blackberries if you had exactly 20 of them, but if you have 19 it picks them all up and discards any more than one

also this is definitely my least favourite "planet"

# ? Oct 8, 2016 18:18

goatface: Dec 5, 2007; I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.; Grimey Drawer

The female spelf appears to have combat wear even less appropriate than Sam Raimi.

# ? Oct 8, 2016 19:04

coleman francis: Aug 8, 2007; Tap tap
The ketchup bottle
None will come
Then axolotl; Hair Elf

Twilight of the Spirits is a wonderful game, I loved the art and the characters. How do you find the game porklift?

Also, all three original Arc games were released in the west in a big box collection on the PSX, they are also pretty rad.

# ? Oct 9, 2016 13:04

wateyad: Nov 17, 2007; The power of the Outsider is

...dat ass

coleman francis posted:

Twilight of the Spirits is a wonderful game, I loved the art and the characters. How do you find the game porklift?

Also, all three original Arc games were released in the west in a big box collection on the PSX, they are also pretty rad.

I'm pretty sure Twilight of the Spirits is the only one that came out in Europe.

# ? Oct 9, 2016 14:06

Pork Lift: Oct 9, 2007; Winner of the 2012
Highway Traffic
Prediction Razzies

coleman francis posted:

Twilight of the Spirits is a wonderful game, I loved the art and the characters. How do you find the game porklift?

Also, all three original Arc games were released in the west in a big box collection on the PSX, they are also pretty rad.

I'm really enjoying it but play it in very short bursts. I think I'm near the end now though. The two main dudes have terrible names and some of the English voice direction is highly suspect, but I enjoy it nonetheless.

# ? Oct 9, 2016 21:17

Shei-kun: Dec 2, 2011; Screw you, physics!

*highly impractically dressed and incredibly out of place character shows up*
"It's a new party member!" :buddy:

This game is not subtle.

# ? Oct 10, 2016 05:31

sleepy.eyes: Sep 14, 2007; Like a pig in a chute.

Shei-kun posted:

*highly impractically dressed and incredibly out of place character shows up*
"It's a new party member!"

This game is not subtle.

Could still be a reoccurring villain. Part of a group of 2-3 who sacrifice themselves for the final boss.

# ? Oct 10, 2016 05:37

Shei-kun: Dec 2, 2011; Screw you, physics!

Nah, she didn't look even remotely evil enough for that.

# ? Oct 10, 2016 05:50

Kurui Reiten: Apr 24, 2010

It's funny you think this game is coherent enough to have actual villains.

# ? Oct 10, 2016 14:42

Vapor Moon: Feb 24, 2010; Neato!; The Human Font

Did you know: You can only have 100 save files before it stops letting you make new ones and you have to save over old ones.

# ? Oct 10, 2016 15:03

ultrabindu: Jan 28, 2009

Shei-kun posted:

Nah, she didn't look even remotely evil enough for that.

How could you tell? All I saw were her rear end and tits.

# ? Oct 10, 2016 21:10

HMS Boromir: Jul 16, 2011; by Lowtax

Presumably she saw enough to determine that her rear end and tits were, in fact, righteous.

# ? Oct 10, 2016 21:26

racerabbit: Sep 8, 2011; "HI, I WANT TO HUG PINS NUTS."

ultrabindu posted:

How could you tell? All I saw were her rear end and tits.

she was dressed "sexy" and not "sultry". If the women are sexy, they are Good, but if they are Sultry, they are Evil.

# ? Oct 10, 2016 23:19

Libluini: May 18, 2012; I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...; Grimey Drawer

Poulpe posted:

I picked up Star Ocean 5 on a whim because it was on sale.
Hoooo boy. Saying that SO4 is actually pretty good in comparison should be testament enough to what a hot mess that game is.

The only saving grace is that for the first time in the series the main female protag deviates a bit from "sheepish/demure waifu" personality-wise.

You forgot Rena from SO2. That girl starts out just knowing some martial arts and ends up astonishingly bloodthirsty by the end. Hell, if you start with her as the main protagonist, you even get a sidequest ending with you punching someones face in.

# ? Oct 10, 2016 23:32

Captain Walker: Apr 7, 2009; Mother knows best
Listen to your mother
It's a scary world out there

Libluini posted:

You forgot Rena from SO2. That girl starts out just knowing some martial arts and ends up astonishingly bloodthirsty by the end. Hell, if you start with her as the main protagonist, you even get a sidequest ending with you punching someones face in.

Another reason 2 is the only good Star Ocean game.

# ? Oct 11, 2016 17:05

wateyad: Nov 17, 2007; The power of the Outsider is

...dat ass

Episode 26: Let's Head for That Isolation Chamber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCniImGXtoY

# ? Oct 11, 2016 17:33

Poulpe: Nov 11, 2006; Canadian Santa Extraordinaire

Libluini posted:

You forgot Rena from SO2. That girl starts out just knowing some martial arts and ends up astonishingly bloodthirsty by the end. Hell, if you start with her as the main protagonist, you even get a sidequest ending with you punching someones face in.

Oh I forgot about Rena! Yeah she was pretty swell

Captain Walker posted:

Another reason 2 is the only good Star Ocean game.

Pretty much this, yeah

# ? Oct 11, 2016 18:06

Bobbin Threadbare: Jan 2, 2009; I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

wateyad posted:

Episode 26: Let's Head for That Isolation Chamber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCniImGXtoY

You might want to double-check your video title.

# ? Oct 11, 2016 18:09

Ometeotl: Feb 13, 2012; It's MISSEL! Or SISSLE!
I confused myself...

No, it's perfect as is.

# ? Oct 11, 2016 18:48

Great Joe: Aug 13, 2008

I want everyone to be happy, including Pork Lift, so there. Also, my favourite party member so far is that who just appeared without her face even in frame because she's said the least amount of dumb things.

# ? Oct 11, 2016 22:38

Wrestlepig: Feb 25, 2011; my mum says im cool; Toilet Rascal

Sam Raimi and elfboy seem fine because they're fairly normal and painless for anime archetypes. That said I can't remember their real names. It'd be Edge if they went further with him being a young and kinda stupid hotshot captain but right now he can be summed up as Protagonisty.

# ? Oct 11, 2016 23:23

Momomo: Dec 26, 2009; Dont judge me, I design your manhole

555 seems like the best character so far since he hasn't really done anything to put him on the bad list. Raimi's entire character arc can be seen from a mile away (as soon as you hear her voice really) and Edge is too Wet behind the ears.

# ? Oct 11, 2016 23:52

McDragon: Sep 11, 2007

I am glad you didn't seclude yourselves in a caravan in Wales to play this, I don't think it would have been good for your health.

Also my favourite party member is Cerberus, he is a good dog.

# ? Oct 11, 2016 23:56

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# ? May 18, 2024 01:39

i81icu812: Dec 5, 2006

Momomo posted:

555 seems like the best character so far since he hasn't really done anything to put him on the bad list. Raimi's entire character arc can be seen from a mile away (as soon as you hear her voice really) and Edge is too Wet behind the ears.

counterpoint: he's an elf.

# ? Oct 12, 2016 03:59

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