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gimme the GOD DAMN candy
Jul 1, 2007

Mraagvpeine posted:

I saw that a Dragon Quest VII remake came out recently. How's that been?

it is still dq7, warts and all

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YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW
It's a prettier, portable game with the more familiar puns & accents translation, and some more substantial tweaks to the job system. It is still very long, and still very Dragon Quest. Do you want to punch slimes, bankrupt a casino, rescue some countries, and talk to everyone? This is your game.

Zinco
Mar 27, 2005

The remake is certainly better on the whole than the original release, though I find the accents and cutesy names overbearing. But although the job grind is significantly reduced, the game is still intractably tedious. The structure of the game forces that: you solve problems of an island in the past, return in the present day, and go through a little epilogue. This far too often means repeating a journey through a dungeon you were in less than an hour earlier. Sometimes you have to go through the same location four or six or eight times. I was starting to go crazy. It's close to the last Dragon Quest game people should play (but at least it'd tide you over for a while).

Silegna
Aug 20, 2013

Hey, heads up. I'm about to unleash my rage.

Zinco posted:

The remake is certainly better on the whole than the original release, though I find the accents and cutesy names overbearing. But although the job grind is significantly reduced, the game is still intractably tedious. The structure of the game forces that: you solve problems of an island in the past, return in the present day, and go through a little epilogue. This far too often means repeating a journey through a dungeon you were in less than an hour earlier. Sometimes you have to go through the same location four or six or eight times. I was starting to go crazy. It's close to the last Dragon Quest game people should play (but at least it'd tide you over for a while).

In my opinion, VIII was the last good Dragon Quest. IX was lackluster, in both story and mechanics (Did the jobs even MEAN anything?), the multiplayer was half assed. In my opinion, 3, 4 and 5, and 8 are the best Dragon Quests to ever play. Hell, DQ3 was actually the first game I ever played on the gameboy color.

Digamma-F-Wau
Mar 22, 2016

It is curious and wants to accept all kinds of challenges

Silegna posted:

In my opinion, VIII was the last good Dragon Quest.

to be fair there's only been 2 games since 8 and one of them is a japan only mmo

ddegenha
Jan 28, 2009

What is this?!

Silegna posted:

In my opinion, VIII was the last good Dragon Quest. IX was lackluster, in both story and mechanics (Did the jobs even MEAN anything?), the multiplayer was half assed. In my opinion, 3, 4 and 5, and 8 are the best Dragon Quests to ever play. Hell, DQ3 was actually the first game I ever played on the gameboy color.


The Ayshkerbundy posted:

to be fair there's only been 2 games since 8 and one of them is a japan only mmo

Are we counting Dragon Quest Heroes? Because I had a blast with that game.

Silegna
Aug 20, 2013

Hey, heads up. I'm about to unleash my rage.

ddegenha posted:

Are we counting Dragon Quest Heroes? Because I had a blast with that game.

I haven't played it, so I can't give an opinion. Always wanted to though, hoping it goes on sale soon.

Zerbin7
Oct 15, 2014

It's a living.

Silegna posted:

In my opinion, VIII was the last good Dragon Quest. IX was lackluster, in both story and mechanics (Did the jobs even MEAN anything?), the multiplayer was half assed.

Really? While, in retrospect, the main plot is a bit... unfocused, the vignettes hit me pretty hard. It seemed that in every other city or so you encountered a tragedy that you couldn't prevent; you just cleaned up the mess as best as you could and moved on, hoping to do better, but the game rarely gave you a break. This built up until the climax, which was honestly rather weak (and maybe a bit nonsensical), except for what it cost the main character. All that to say, DQIX made me sad, and that is not a feeling that I associate with bad games.

Just my 2 G.

hey girl you up
May 21, 2001

Forum Nice Guy
Was DQ7 the one on the PS1 where you the main character raided Link's closet? I forget why, but I gave up on that game in record time. Probably loading time.

ddegenha posted:

Are we counting Dragon Quest Heroes? Because I had a blast with that game.

Rocket Slime was an amazing game (so long as you like puns). I still laugh whenever I think of this tank:

hey girl you up fucked around with this message at 05:49 on Oct 9, 2016

Alacron
Feb 15, 2007

-->Have tearful reunion with your son
-->Eh
Fun Shoe

hey girl you up posted:

Was DQ7 the one on the PS1 where you the main character raided Link's closet? I forget why, but I gave up on that game in record time. Probably loading time.

You probably gave up on it because the opening is infamously long. It takes about 2 hours of talking to basically everyone on a tiny island before you see your first slimes, but the 3DS version cut that down pretty considerably.

hey girl you up
May 21, 2001

Forum Nice Guy

Alacron posted:

You probably gave up on it because the opening is infamously long. It takes about 2 hours of talking to basically everyone on a tiny island before you see your first slimes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDxoj-tDDIU&t=125s

hey girl you up fucked around with this message at 06:06 on Oct 9, 2016

Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

my mum says im cool

Toilet Rascal

hey girl you up posted:

Was DQ7 the one on the PS1 where you the main character raided Link's closet? I forget why, but I gave up on that game in record time. Probably loading time.


Rocket Slime was an amazing game (so long as you like puns). I still laugh whenever I think of this tank:



Rocket Slime is incredible, every game should have mech battles.

Blasphemaster
Jul 10, 2008

I have no idea how far I got in DQ7, but I remember a shitload of battles on giant vine paths or something and then I couldn't figure out what to do next.

Yapping Eevee
Nov 12, 2011

STAND TOGETHER.
FIGHT WITH HONOR.
RESTORE BALANCE.

Eevees play for free.

rumble in the bunghole posted:

Rocket Slime is incredible, every game should have mech battles.
I plugged this very thread in my OP when I LP'd Rocket Slime last year; that should serve as some indication of how long this has been going on. :v:

Also my favourite pun is still the one in the top right:

Yapping Eevee fucked around with this message at 08:31 on Oct 9, 2016

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



Yapping Eevee posted:

I plugged this very thread in my OP when I LP'd Rocket Slime last year; that should serve as some indication of how long this has been going on. :v:

Also my favourite pun is still the one in the top right:



You're right. That pun is beautiful.

CptWedgie
Jul 19, 2015
I'm rather fond of Chrono Twigger, myself. (Not gonna go hunting for a screenshot, though. Sorry.) It's probably because I grew up playing Chrono Trigger, though.

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW

Blasphemaster posted:

I have no idea how far I got in DQ7, but I remember a shitload of battles on giant vine paths or something and then I couldn't figure out what to do next.

The remake streamlined that specific dungeon. You aren't the only player who lost their will to live in there.

YamiNoSenshi
Jan 19, 2010

Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:



Man, even taking screenshots of this dungeon is annoying.

The thought of trying to describe it is even worse!

I constantly erase that dungeon from my memory. Every time it's brought up, I'm like, "Oh, right, that place." Then I promptly forget again.

CptWedgie
Jul 19, 2015

YamiNoSenshi posted:

I constantly erase that dungeon from my memory. Every time it's brought up, I'm like, "Oh, right, that place." Then I promptly forget again.

Don't blame you for that. It's thoroughly unmemorable and almost completely out of place in the narrative.

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


YggiDee posted:

The remake streamlined that specific dungeon. You aren't the only player who lost their will to live in there.

Wait, which dungeon is that?

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW

Shugojin posted:

Wait, which dungeon is that?

There's a dungeon where you crawl around the roots of Yggdrasil and I've been told that the PSX version was longer and more confusing.

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


Oh I was thinking it was maybe that one but the vines wording threw me.

Rangpur
Dec 31, 2008

Rocket Slime is my favorite DQ game. The remakes of 4-6 are alright. I took one look at 7's opening and ran screaming in the other direction. 9 bored me. I'd like to try DQ8 but apparently they keep pushing back the 3DS remake, so... :shrug:

vdate
Oct 25, 2010
Honestly, DQ5 is probably my favourite DQ game. It did something fairly remarkable at the time in terms of narrative, and the DS remake is so good (especially with party member chats) that I'm genuinely surprised that nobody's LPed it yet.

mauman
Jul 30, 2014

Whoever's got the biggest whiskers does the talking.

vdate posted:

Honestly, DQ5 is probably my favourite DQ game. It did something fairly remarkable at the time in terms of narrative, and the DS remake is so good (especially with party member chats) that I'm genuinely surprised that nobody's LPed it yet.

Sancho is too manly for any one Lp'er

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Snes version was LPd.
Dont think it was ever LParchived tho

It was

Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 13:49 on Oct 27, 2016

CptWedgie
Jul 19, 2015

vdate posted:

Honestly, DQ5 is probably my favourite DQ game. It did something fairly remarkable at the time in terms of narrative, and the DS remake is so good (especially with party member chats) that I'm genuinely surprised that nobody's LPed it yet.

Which of the potential wives is your favorite? Personally, I'm rather fond of Debora.

mauman
Jul 30, 2014

Whoever's got the biggest whiskers does the talking.

CptWedgie posted:

Which of the potential wives is your favorite? Personally, I'm rather fond of Debora.

Yeah, Debora was really cool. Felt like she had actual development as a character compared to the other two, who were kinda static.

For extra bonus points, she was actually worth using unlike the other two wives who were instantly outclassed.

Silegna
Aug 20, 2013

Hey, heads up. I'm about to unleash my rage.

Rigged Death Trap posted:

Snes version was LPd.
Dont think it was ever LParchived tho

It was

God, I loved the DQ5 LP. It's a shame there aren't any SSLPs of the DQM series, I'd love DQM1 to have one.

Rabbi Raccoon
Mar 31, 2009

I stabbed you dude!

mauman posted:

Yeah, Debora was really cool. Felt like she had actual development as a character compared to the other two, who were kinda static.

For extra bonus points, she was actually worth using unlike the other two wives who were instantly outclassed.

I never played the DS version, but Flora was actually one of the better mages in the SNES version, plus you got some extra treasures along the way (including a VERY early Water Flying Clothes)

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


Silegna posted:

God, I loved the DQ5 LP. It's a shame there aren't any SSLPs of the DQM series, I'd love DQM1 to have one.

about

that

:v:

MythosDragon
Jan 3, 2016

Another Vote for Debra, she had the best party chat period.

For some unknown reason I have Nera memorized as Flora even though I've only played the DS version, its weird.

Silegna
Aug 20, 2013

Hey, heads up. I'm about to unleash my rage.


Huh, how did I never find that in the archive.

mauman
Jul 30, 2014

Whoever's got the biggest whiskers does the talking.

Rabbi Raccoon posted:

I never played the DS version, but Flora was actually one of the better mages in the SNES version, plus you got some extra treasures along the way (including a VERY early Water Flying Clothes)

Problem with Flora/Nera is that Daughter is pretty much her on steroids, and magic is generally subpar compared to physical attacks in the older DQs anyways.

Deb got around this by being a VERY good physical fighter with pretty good support magic rather than an offensive mage. She had access to a number of unique double hit weapons and she could even use the Hera Hammer as an alternative to Sancho.

Bianca's problem is that she tries to be both a mage and a physical fighter, but comes up short in both.

Also you still get the items if you marry Deb since she's from the same family as Nera.

And like I said, unlike the other 2 wives (who are kinda static in personality) Deb goes through some developments.

mauman fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Oct 28, 2016

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012





Personally, I'm still waiting on some of the DQM Joker games to be LP'd. I had no idea what I was doing the entire game so I eventually just gave up on it.

Neurion
Jun 3, 2013

The musical fruit
The more you eat
The more you hoot

RareAcumen posted:

Personally, I'm still waiting on some of the DQM Joker games to be LP'd. I had no idea what I was doing the entire game so I eventually just gave up on it.

Joker 1 is ok. Joker 2 is much better, as it feels like it has a proper story involved.

Mraagvpeine
Nov 4, 2014

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.
If you want more DQM and happen to have archives, then you can check out this Caravan Hearts LP.

serefin99
Apr 15, 2016

Mikoooon~
Your lovely shrine maiden fox wife, Tamamo no Mae, is here to help!

RareAcumen posted:

Personally, I'm still waiting on some of the DQM Joker games to be LP'd. I had no idea what I was doing the entire game so I eventually just gave up on it.

This, all the way. Preferably, it'd be a Joker 1 LP, since I've actually beaten Joker 2 before. But I'd be happy with either one to be entirely honest.

vdate
Oct 25, 2010

CptWedgie posted:

Which of the potential wives is your favorite? Personally, I'm rather fond of Debora.

Debora. I seem to recall a lot of her party chats being pretty interesting both in themselves and as a progression - there's some clear evidence of her warming to the player character over time, and she has some insightful stuff to say about a lot of random crap. In any event one of the things the DS version did right is make the choice an actual choice, rather than the choice between Bianca and 'what the hell is wrong with you', given as I think in the original Flora/Nera didn't level past 10 or some ridiculously low number.

Edit: but clearly, what I'm saying is that OFS should LP DQ5DS after this one. Y'know, when it finishes, in 2020 sometime.

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Blasphemaster
Jul 10, 2008

How do you top a tradition of princely fistbumps while wearing your binky as a turban?

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