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ninjahedgehog
Feb 17, 2011

It's time to kick the tires and light the fires, Big Bird.


Thronde posted:

I hope they do some more to the buildings and all of NY, being able to run around and fight room by room in a vertical level scenario would be great fun. Staircase battles, etc.

A floor-by-floor gauntlet mode at the Empire State Building or 30 Rock or One World Trade Center would be pretty sweet.

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Chasiubao
Apr 2, 2010


Any opinions on the Custom M44 at the BoO DZ vendor? It's expensive but it has Coolheaded and all five mod slots :ohdear:

Lady Naga
Apr 25, 2008

Voyons Donc!
Are they ever going to add more than like four hairstyles and five faces

Croccers
Jun 15, 2012

Capn Beeb posted:

That's what really bums me out as the whole area is gorgeous and I'm a sucker for ruined cityscapes. Setting the place against winter just makes it even prettier. But you're right, you really can't just take a moment to soak it in and really appreciate the work the art team did :(
Just looking up every two minutes gets you amazing views. Honestly I forget I'm in the middle of TOWERING buildings.
I wish the game had more actual roof-top stuff or fighting through the mid-levels of the taller buildings to get a good high view. Make it like Underground but it's offices and layouts instead, and with windows to look out of.

Hammerstein
May 6, 2005

YOU DON'T KNOW A DAMN THING ABOUT RACING !
I found an LVOA-C with Predatory (heal over time on kill), Sustained (6% heal on kill) and Ferocious (10% vs Elite, in 3rd slot so no requirements).

Any ideas for gimmick builds centered around massive health regen ?

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

Hammerstein posted:

I found an LVOA-C with Predatory (heal over time on kill), Sustained (6% heal on kill) and Ferocious (10% vs Elite, in 3rd slot so no requirements).

Any ideas for gimmick builds centered around massive health regen ?

I imagine that'd meld well with anything Alpha Bridge if you want a legit good build that isnt necessarily gimmicky. I've got those stats on an ACR, and gonna get another AR with the other poo poo to flesh it out then go 4/2 Alpha Bridge/Nomad to be the baseline endgame nerd.

Thronde posted:

Exactly what I want. It's loving NEW YORK, use that verticality!

Also, this. Yeah the NY Subways are logical, but still...

Thronde
Aug 4, 2012

Fun Shoe

Croccers posted:

Just looking up every two minutes gets you amazing views. Honestly I forget I'm in the middle of TOWERING buildings.
I wish the game had more actual roof-top stuff or fighting through the mid-levels of the taller buildings to get a good high view. Make it like Underground but it's offices and layouts instead, and with windows to look out of.

Exactly what I want. It's loving NEW YORK, use that verticality!

Hakarne
Jul 23, 2007
Vivo en el autobús!


Hammerstein posted:

I found an LVOA-C with Predatory (heal over time on kill), Sustained (6% heal on kill) and Ferocious (10% vs Elite, in 3rd slot so no requirements).

Any ideas for gimmick builds centered around massive health regen ?

I posted something earlier similar to this. You could go 4 Alpha/2Nomad. Stick self-preserved on your second AR and stack as much crit as you can and you'll end up with a HoT on kill, heal on crit, and 21% heal on kill (15% from the 2 piece Nomad set bonus). Another fun thing to try might be running the Tech Support talent (kills extend deployed skill duration) with the support station for crazy amounts of regeneration, and if you do manage to drop you'll have both recovery link and the support station to revive you.

Danith
May 20, 2006
I've lurked here for years

Capn Beeb posted:


You have opted out of PvP in the Dark Zone. To maintain the element of risk, AI spawn cells have been increased accordingly with party size.

Oh god yes :gizz:

Electric_Mud
May 31, 2011

>10 THRUST "ROBO_COX"
>20 GOTO 10
How do you folks decide when an item is worth recalibrating vs. just vendoring and hoping for something better? I'm getting the point where I should think about recalibrating stuff but I'm not sure what makes an item "good enough" to start throwing cash at it to hope it get's better.

isk
Oct 3, 2007

You don't want me owing you

Roman posted:

Predatory and Meticulous proc when you kill enemy skills, like turrets, support station, seeker mine, mobile cover.

Good info, thanks.

robziel posted:

How do you folks decide when an item is worth recalibrating vs. just vendoring and hoping for something better? I'm getting the point where I should think about recalibrating stuff but I'm not sure what makes an item "good enough" to start throwing cash at it to hope it get's better.

For me it's whether the item has all but one thing I want. I focus on firearms/stamina/armor, damage to elites, and primary weapon damage. If all but one of those are present and high, I'll reroll a few times to get the thing I want. I keep a few million cash on hand just in case daily/weekly vendor rolls are good.

I'd be interested in mathematology/others' experiences.

cage-free egghead
Mar 8, 2004
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QUTygu2eeTk6TlREtlgGIoJHLTXl9IrixvoaUq8xaZg/preview#heading=h.ojyzfmzcyws3

This is a great read for figuring out best in slot equipment and loadouts.

Croccers
Jun 15, 2012
Aww crap has the Amazon deal finish already? What's the next cheapest place to nab it from for PC? Getting it for a friend, they're not interested in the DLC.

Photex
Apr 6, 2009




after rolling around with a Predator set i'm not really feeling the set bonus, am I wrong for thinking that I have to roll pulse and first aid all the time? If so is the FireCrest set as good as it looks on paper? I know Alpha is rated higher but boooooring.

Javes
May 6, 2012

ASK ME ABOUT APPEARING OFFLINE SO I DON'T HAVE TO TELL FRIENDS THEY'RE NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR MY VIDEO GAME TEAM.
Haven't played with in months but I decided to boot up the game due to good response to 1.4. How is the DZ/what is the cheating situation on PC? I really enjoyed the pvp despite its flaws and I'm looking forward to gearing up again.

Roman
Aug 8, 2002

Photex posted:

If so is the FireCrest set as good as it looks on paper? I know Alpha is rated higher but boooooring.
AB is only rated higher on a tryhard scale. FireCrest is tops on the good times scale. Use incendiary pokeball and stock up on fire grenades for extra fun

Javes posted:

Haven't played with in months but I decided to boot up the game due to good response to 1.4. How is the DZ/what is the cheating situation on PC? I really enjoyed the pvp despite its flaws and I'm looking forward to gearing up again.
you'll see people complain about hackers occasionally but it's exaggerated, there's much less since they started zero tolerance and I personally have never seen one. The patch didn't directly address PVP but the NPCs are much more manageable and you can't abuse skills now like before. Well you can, but you have to do crazy optimized builds to do it, instead of just bouncing off smart cover over and over

Roman fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Oct 31, 2016

Lyer
Feb 4, 2008

Is there a reason to do the daily missions over farming underground? Aside from birdbucks, the amount of loot that drops doesn't seem worth the time.

ZombyDog
Jul 11, 2001

Ere to fix yer gubbinz

Photex posted:

after rolling around with a Predator set i'm not really feeling the set bonus, am I wrong for thinking that I have to roll pulse and first aid all the time?
For solo DZ sure, pulse ( with conceal ) and first aid ( with booster shot ) - but that is the only time I would consider either mandatory ( even then concealed pulse really isn't mandatory - Flash stickies or Gas seekers are still a godsend for crowd control when solo ). For solo LZ or group activities where you have way more flexibility ( and 4 guys running pulse just means half those pulses are wasted ), BFB stickies and multi ball seekers synergize well with Shrapnel ( assuming you're using Predator's Mark ), and you don't have to tack in a healing skill if you don't want to.

That said, Firecrest does look like the fun havers set even if the 4 piece damage bonus doesn't come up enough to warrant it. You could roll 3 piece Firecrest with 3 piece Lonestar to amp up your M60 and backup shotgun, 3 piece Firecrest and 3 piece Predator's Mark for that damage boost to your assault rifle or 3 piece Firecrest and 3 piece Nomad for solo tank action. I'm personally trying to build a 4pc Firecrest with Savage and Specialised, I have a nice MP5 to go with it and I'm looking for a decent DMR with coolheaded.

Beeb
Jun 29, 2003

Good hunter, free us from this waking nightmare

ZombyDog posted:

I'm personally trying to build a 4pc Firecrest with Savage and Specialised, I have a nice MP5 to go with it and I'm looking for a decent DMR with coolheaded.

I'm currently using a 3pc Firecrest with Savage and Specialized and it's loving hilarious. Also I went with the headshot an enemy to pulse them and with an M60 I'm seeing crazy poo poo like 90k headshots :stare: Could only get better with Lone Star but Specialized is really, really nice. Get one with electronics built in, roll armor on it, party time.

Also something that hasn't happened in ages happened today: I met a friendly pub in the DZ. We were both at the library, and two heavy gunners spawned so even with my 290k toughness or so I got chewed up a bit. Took cover and I hear the WOOOSH sound of a launched skill and I think oh boy some jerkass decided to sticky bomb me :(

But instead I get healed by a random.

Then we teamed up and wandered the DZ for a good hour just having a really fun time :)

It's times like this that I love the dark zone and would be all over a pure co-op PvE only version.

Also holy loving poo poo the spawn timers for named enemies and crates and purple areas seems really short now. Like we cleared the refuel depot, and within ten minutes it was full of enemies again.

Morter
Jul 1, 2006

:ninja:
Gift for the grind, criminal mind shifty

Swift with the 9 through a 59FIFTY

Lyer posted:

Is there a reason to do the daily missions over farming underground? Aside from birdbucks, the amount of loot that drops doesn't seem worth the time.

I get a decent amount of loot above ground, no more or less than underground.

I mean if you have fun running the same thing repeatedly then do what you want? But there are plenty of ways to make this something beyond a 'looping the same sequence simulator'. S&D/HVT, missions on higher difficulties, DZ, underground, and eventually more with DLC.

Journey, not just destination :buddy:

Lyer
Feb 4, 2008

Honestly I just have a hard time match making into the daily missions vs. underground. I get into teams immediately for underground and its a few minutes before a single person joins up for the daily mission. If I'm lucky the team fills up halfway through, just wondering if I'm missing anything if I don't run the daily missions.

Electric_Mud
May 31, 2011

>10 THRUST "ROBO_COX"
>20 GOTO 10

isk posted:

For me it's whether the item has all but one thing I want. I focus on firearms/stamina/armor, damage to elites, and primary weapon damage. If all but one of those are present and high, I'll reroll a few times to get the thing I want. I keep a few million cash on hand just in case daily/weekly vendor rolls are good.

I'd be interested in mathematology/others' experiences.

Makes sense, thanks.

ZombyDog
Jul 11, 2001

Ere to fix yer gubbinz

Lyer posted:

Honestly I just have a hard time match making into the daily missions vs. underground. I get into teams immediately for underground and its a few minutes before a single person joins up for the daily mission. If I'm lucky the team fills up halfway through, just wondering if I'm missing anything if I don't run the daily missions.
All of the matchmakers are pretty balls for me but I suspect that is more to to do with lack of population in my region ( Oceania / SE Asia ) than anything else.

Pound_Coin
Feb 5, 2004
£


Edit: did that exist two nights ago?

2: wow CTS is closing? :rip:

Pound_Coin fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Nov 1, 2016

Morter
Jul 1, 2006

:ninja:
Gift for the grind, criminal mind shifty

Swift with the 9 through a 59FIFTY
Don't know if anyone keeps track elsewhere--I certainly don't--but if you're a season pass holder, new supply drops have come in. :toot:

Photex
Apr 6, 2009




please don't use mumble, everyone is really using https://discord.gg/0blIq7586QA4EQhM

mellowjournalism
Jul 31, 2004

helllooo
How's pvp

Beeb
Jun 29, 2003

Good hunter, free us from this waking nightmare

Is Sustained a good gun trait to have? 6% health on kill seems nice, but I'm looking at a Sustained, Destructive, and Responsive black market Saiga-12 and I'm thinking roll for Brutal and smash faces in :stare:

Edit:

Wow 6% is nothing :(

Beeb fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Nov 1, 2016

hey welcome to the show!
Jan 22, 2014

nobody loves me

Its OK. Who ever starts shooting first usually wins. Also don't be worried about the rouge timer because for 1 person it is meaningless. It's only 80 seconds and they can't even get back to you to do anything about it in time. So if you feel like someone is going to start something just kill them first.

GET MY BELT SON
Sep 26, 2007

back after a long hiatus

should i be dismantling all my extra pieces?

Inside Out Mom
Jan 9, 2004

Franklin B. Znorps
Dignity, Class, Internet
sell sell sell

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Sell everything. I broke down everything for crafting thinking I would craft everything at level 30, I couldn't craft poo poo. 30 levels of saving mats didn't get me anything useful.

GET MY BELT SON
Sep 26, 2007

I said come in! posted:

Sell everything. I broke down everything for crafting thinking I would craft everything at level 30, I couldn't craft poo poo. 30 levels of saving mats didn't get me anything useful.

Excellent thanks fellas

I guess I'm back in the fray

Xb1: AFFLUENZA TEEN

ZombyDog
Jul 11, 2001

Ere to fix yer gubbinz
Yeah crafting got nerfed hard early on so outside of gear mods where you want a lot of rolls of the dice ( and you can't recalibrate ), crafting isn't the big deal it once was. From early on to end game selling the majority of your trash is the way to go. Early game your character is progressing faster than the mission content, so you may be level 15 but your enemies may only be level 12 and dropping level 12 gear - so buying current level gear from the vendors isn't such a silly thing to do, and by endgame you can turn cash into caches.

GET MY BELT SON
Sep 26, 2007

So can I still run embassy over and over again with a good group and rake in bird coins? What's the current preferred method for farming as a PvE type guy?

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream
The game really shits loot all over you now.

The "Random Set Piece" packages for 100 Phoenix Credits are nice; or at least nice for me because I bought 3 and they rolled up items for my 3 lowest-ilvl slots. Nothing amazing, but hey 229 set-pieces.

I still feel insanely weak compared to the heavily optimized guys but I think running dailies works well. I need to wrangle my friends back into this game to get a group for HVTs.

Video Nasty
Jun 17, 2003

Hey this game is pretty alright again. :shobon: I might jump back in once in a while, but I'm clueless on things to do besides running daily challenges; and I'm fine with whomever wants to play team captain. xb: R0BERTC0P

Electric_Mud
May 31, 2011

>10 THRUST "ROBO_COX"
>20 GOTO 10

Two of those were from one crate, I feel like the game is trying to tell me something.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

robziel posted:


Two of those were from one crate, I feel like the game is trying to tell me something.

HOT ENOUGH FOR YA????

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ZombyDog
Jul 11, 2001

Ere to fix yer gubbinz

robziel posted:


Two of those were from one crate, I feel like the game is trying to tell me something.

If the middle one is a natural armour roll then it's the keeper as you can either reroll the Stam if needed or the minor bonus.

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