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So, I used to watch Chikara a bit back in the day but haven't paid any attention to it for years now. Can someone explain what the deal was with it being disbanded and the whole "wrestling is x" thing etc. I just remember most people hating it and tuning out while some people stayed behind and discussed whether or not it was just some elaborate storyline. How did all of that turn out?
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Beeswax posted:So, I used to watch Chikara a bit back in the day but haven't paid any attention to it for years now. Can someone explain what the deal was with it being disbanded and the whole "wrestling is x" thing etc. I just remember most people hating it and tuning out while some people stayed behind and discussed whether or not it was just some elaborate storyline. How did all of that turn out? Rumor is that Quack cheated on his wife (who was helping finance the company) and he didn't have money to continue the company after she left him.
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Oct 8, 2016 14:10
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Beeswax posted:So, I used to watch Chikara a bit back in the day but haven't paid any attention to it for years now. Can someone explain what the deal was with it being disbanded and the whole "wrestling is x" thing etc. I just remember most people hating it and tuning out while some people stayed behind and discussed whether or not it was just some elaborate storyline. How did all of that turn out? It was all an ill-advised elaborate storyline that Quack stuck to his guns with for a year even though it really wasn't working. Chikara was "gone" and instead there were the different Wrestling Is shows that had some Chikara wrestlers on there, but without the brand name or any interesting storylines, so nobody really went to them or cared. Then they started doing this weird guerrilla marketing stuff where Icarus was calling for get-togethers with Chikara fans. This involved a fan getting kidnapped by Titor Conglomerate's goons and some scavenger hunt thing. Anyway, two things started to happen. One, movies would be uploaded onto YouTube that told the story of Icarus trying to rally everyone to help bring back Chikara. Outside of Hallowicked, everyone either outright refused or were really reluctant, especially since Icarus is such a known douche. As the storyline got further and further along, the videos would pop up more frequently to the point of daily releases. The other thing was that the Wrestling Is shows started to get shut down. Each time by a different heel group from Chikara's past. Gekido, BDK, Dr. Cube, Sinn Bodhi, Wrecking Crew, etc. It sounded cooler than it actually was because there were like forty people watching these shows. If anything the whole experiment showed how important it is that in-ring action mixes with storytelling because when you separate them, nobody can get into it. A show that's just wrestling can only get so much support and vignettes are only as strong as the matches they connect with. So finally they were building to National Pro Wrestling Day and there was this big showdown with the Chikara guys and the Flood, the heel super group led by Jimmy Jacobs. The Flood were sent packing and due to Robbie Ellis buying the Chikara brand, the company would make its return. At the first actual Chikara show in a year, the Flood revealed their nigh-invincible end boss leader Deucalion, who would literally murder Chikara guys (and his failed underlings). The Chikara vs. Flood feud went on for that entire half-season until Icarus seemingly killed Deucalion with Thunderfrog's hammer. Since then, Chikara's been WAAAAY easier to follow and less up its own rear end. Also, they released a movie called Ashes of Chikara that they even advertised on the back of comic books. It was made up of the YouTube vignettes from that year of absence, plus some extra stuff. Even ignoring the bad acting, the sad thing is it could have sort of worked (if framed right, it's not a bad story), but it was so badly edited that it was completely incoherent. Like, important parts of the story were simply cut out and nothing makes sense because of it. Things are better now.
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Oct 10, 2016 04:42
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Gavok posted:It was all an ill-advised elaborate storyline that Quack stuck to his guns with for a year even though it really wasn't working. Chikara was "gone" and instead there were the different Wrestling Is shows that had some Chikara wrestlers on there, but without the brand name or any interesting storylines, so nobody really went to them or cared. Then they started doing this weird guerrilla marketing stuff where Icarus was calling for get-togethers with Chikara fans. This involved a fan getting kidnapped by Titor Conglomerate's goons and some scavenger hunt thing. Jesus, that all sounds really bad. Glad to know they snapped out of it eventually. Thanks for the write-up!
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Oct 10, 2016 07:59
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Chikara is holding their final shows of the season in Philly at the Wrestle Factory (not the actual finales, those are in Chicago, first weekend in December) in two weeks. "Counting Backwards" Nov 5 @ 2pm - First Time Ever - Zack Sabre Jr vs Juan Francisco de Coronado - Tag Team Grudge Match - Dasher Hatfield & Heidi Lovelace vs Icarus & Mark Angelosetti - Young Lions Cup Match - Thunderfrog defends vs Hermit Crab - Singles Match - "Juke Joint" Lucas Calhoun vs Drew Gulak - Singles Match - Officer Warren Barksdale vs The Big Deal - 4 Corner Elimination Tag - The Closers vs Sea Stars vs Chuck TaylorTM & DUSTIN vs ?? "Like Phantoms, Forever" Nov 5 @ 7pm - Grand Championship Match - Hallowicked defends vs Ophidian - Atomicos Grudge Match - Amasis, Fire Ant, Soldier Ant, Worker Ant vs Frightmare & The HeXed Men - Grudge Match - Princess Kimberlee vs Max Smashmaster - First Time Ever - Missile Assault Man vs Wani - Singles Match - Bullet Ant vs Rock Lobster Storylines The big storyline throughout the year has been the rise of Nazmaldun and his HeXed Men. Once Nazmaldun possessed UltraMantis Black, the Lord of Rot has been brainwashing former rudos into turning back to the cause of evil. This has caused former Dasher's Dugout members Icarus & "Mr. Touchdown" Mark Angelosetti to re-embrace their rudo ways, much to the consternation of Dasher Hatfield & Heidi Lovelace. Meanwhile, after their defeat by Just a Lot of Ants in August, the HeXed Men have been looking to avenge themselves on those who aided the Colony. Frightmare has already attacked Pinkie Sanchez and taken him out, and has targeted Amasis as his next victim, so the once and future Pharaoh Ant has gone to the Colony for backup. We do not know who Frightmare's partners from the HeXed Men will be, but it will probably be the Batiri. Hallowicked is on his second reign as Grand Champion, having won it in May off of Kimberlee, and has defended it three times since then. He now finds himself facing Ophidian, who overcame considerable odds after earning his third point, as the Batiri tried their best to weaken him in Haverhill last month. Hallowicked has also claimed that Nazmaldun has not assured either his victory or defeat in his title defense, casting doubt on Nazmaldun's mystic powers and suggesting Ophidian may have some of his own. Juan Francisco de Coronado is looking to further boost his standings in Chikara, and a win over the technical wizard Zack Sabre Jr will do a lot for that. ZSJ's last appearance in a Chikara ring saw him lose in a surprise upset to Hermit Crab has been on a bit of a rise through the roster this year. After a brief feud with Ophidian earlier this year, the Crab has been building his submission skills with his Flat Crab hold, getting wins with it, though he has yet to earn enough points for title contention. He is, however, young enough to challenge the Thunderfrog for the Young Lions Cup. Thunderfrog has held the Cup since he won it in February and has had only 2 defenses. The Cup has not changed hands outside of YLC tournament finals since 2010, when Tim Donst beat Player Dos. Then there's Smashmaster & Kimberlee. After losing the Challenge of the Immortals to Kimberlee's Crown & Court, Smashmaster went on the warpath, but in doing so, he assaulted officials and Mike Quackenbush, leading to him getting fired. After attempting to sneak back into Chikara by donning the mask of Abominous Rex, Smashmaster finally snapped, threatening to destroy ring announcer Vlad Radinov unless he was reinstated. Kimberlee asked Quack to do so, so she could finish what she started. Smashmaster aims to destroy Kimberlee for costing him immortality and costing him his job (blaming her for his firing) and has stated "the fun and games are over." Jay 2K Winger fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Oct 27, 2016 |
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Oct 26, 2016 21:57
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I'm working on a piece for Den of Geek on the funniest Chikara matches. I'm looking for suggestions. Ones off the top of my head: - Lance Steel vs. Darkness Crabtree match that went on for a full day. - Incoherence vs. Cheech and Cloudy - Archibald Peck vs. Ashley Remington - That eight-man tag match where they split the tag teams and Archibald Peck accidentally shot Bryce. - The comedy eight-man tag from KOT12 where they played Duck, Duck, Goose. - Gentleman's Club vs. Submission Squad - Colony vs. FIST when they did the slow motion grenade spot. - Incoherence vs. Smash Bros ("Princess Peach is a TRAMP!"). - Mysterious and Handsome Stranger vs. deviANT - North Star Express vs. Olsen Twins - Archibald Peck vs. Chuck Taylor - Lucas Calhoun vs. Chuck Taylor TM
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Nov 3, 2016 04:34
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Gavok posted:I'm working on a piece for Den of Geek on the funniest Chikara matches. I'm looking for suggestions. Ones off the top of my head: All solid choices there. I'd include UnStable & 2.0 vs Dasher, Lince, Carpenter Ant, Green Ant, Colt Cabana (the one where they played baseball - "Hiding in Plain Sight" from Season 8/2009) Edit: I have a soft spot for Team Uppercut vs the Roughnecks at King of Trios 09. There was some decent humor stuff in, and then of course there's the 100-revolution Giant Swing on Grizzly Redwood, which is funny in part because of the commentary over it. Jay 2K Winger fucked around with this message at 07:48 on Nov 3, 2016 |
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Nov 3, 2016 04:41
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Gavok posted:I'm working on a piece for Den of Geek on the funniest Chikara matches. I'm looking for suggestions. Ones off the top of my head: FIST vs Necro, Klein, Brain Damage It requires a bit of knowledge of who Necro and buddies are, but some of the spots that that match built to were amazing.
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Nov 3, 2016 04:57
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Nevermind.
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Nov 3, 2016 05:11
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There's one from years ago where there's a two count, the heel does the "C'mon ref, that was three" spot and the ref says 'Oh, alright then. Ring the bell'. I can't remember anything more than that though. If a three count was royally hosed up the ref was probably Jon Barber.
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Nov 3, 2016 09:36
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hyper from Pixie Sticks posted:There's one from years ago where there's a two count, the heel does the "C'mon ref, that was three" spot and the ref says 'Oh, alright then. Ring the bell'. I can't remember anything more than that though. That would be Darkness Crabtree vs. CP Munk. That's a good one.
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Nov 3, 2016 15:32
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It's my first time checking out a show at the Wrestle Factory tomorrow, anything I should know about the venue?
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Nov 5, 2016 00:40
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Clockwork Rocktapus posted:It's my first time checking out a show at the Wrestle Factory tomorrow, anything I should know about the venue? It's small. Also, do NOT take photos of the Max Moon poster.
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Nov 5, 2016 00:42
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yea, steal the Max Moon poster instead
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Nov 5, 2016 00:42
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Please listen to the Max Smashmaster podcast on F4W Daily today. He is the most likable guy in the world
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Nov 5, 2016 03:22
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The most important thing to take away from the Wrestle Factory is that it's gonna get really hot in there. Don't let the presence of air conditioning fool you. I will be wearing my Dev Corp jacket to the afternoon show because I am a loving idiot
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Nov 5, 2016 17:12
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ZSJ vs Juan Francisco was amazing. Both of them did some crazy hits. It was also my first time getting to see Zack wrestle live. I don't get why people say he's boring
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Nov 5, 2016 22:47
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CHIKARA did a magic move match tonight. Normally, the prize is something lame like a sticker or pen or something small like that. Tonight though, they were basically giving away all their COTI t-shirt inventory. So, I left with 3 free shirts. Pretty sweet deal.
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Nov 6, 2016 03:13
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Dangerous Person posted:ZSJ vs Juan Francisco was amazing. Both of them did some crazy hits. It was also my first time getting to see Zack wrestle live. I don't get why people say he's boring I think his style is love it or hate it, unfortunately. I like it, but the last time I tried to show people why I like it, there were glazed eyes and complaints that there weren't enough flippies. To be fair, when I ask both of my local wrestling fan friends to watch Chikara with me, they're expecting flippies, so who knows.
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Nov 6, 2016 03:47
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Ophidian vs. Hallowicked was one of the best wrestling matches I have ever seen, period. Wow. DM Punk posted:CHIKARA did a magic move match tonight. Normally, the prize is something lame like a sticker or pen or something small like that. Tonight though, they were basically giving away all their COTI t-shirt inventory. So, I left with 3 free shirts. Pretty sweet deal. Yeah I got a Crown and Court and Worker Ant shirt. My friend hit the jackpot with a free fire ant and thunderfrog shirt.
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Nov 6, 2016 06:19
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Oh, so that's why Blaster was upset with CHIKARA. https://twitter.com/DevastationCorp/status/795294668309327872
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Nov 6, 2016 18:48
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Working on my list of the 20 funniest Chikara matches, the one takeaway I'm getting here is that I really miss Eddie Kingston's solo commentary, where he gleefully called out everything as being both the best and the worst. Also, they announced that the finale will be Dasher Hatfield's team (with Ophidian) vs. the HeXed Men in a Cibernetico.
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Nov 9, 2016 23:46
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Gavok posted:Working on my list of the 20 funniest Chikara matches, the one takeaway I'm getting here is that I really miss Eddie Kingston's solo commentary, where he gleefully called out everything as being both the best and the worst. My favourite Eddie Kingston moment comes from IWA-MS when Arik Cannon countered a running move with a nasty right hand, Kingston loses his mind screaming in excitement.
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Nov 10, 2016 01:43
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El Gallinero Gros posted:My favourite Eddie Kingston moment comes from IWA-MS when Arik Cannon countered a running move with a nasty right hand, Kingston loses his mind screaming in excitement. Eddie Kingston and Punk creaming themselves over the Joe/Necro match is something.
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Nov 10, 2016 07:04
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C. Everett Koop posted:Eddie Kingston and Punk creaming themselves over the Joe/Necro match is something. Punk's response to Necro kicking out of a big move is great quote:I'm going to pull my car around, Joe's is going to throw him out the front door and I'm gonna run the son of a bitch over! If he kicks at two, I'll drive that car right into the ocean.
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Nov 10, 2016 07:20
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C. Everett Koop posted:Eddie Kingston and Punk creaming themselves over the Joe/Necro match is something. The ridiculous Exploder-off-the-apron-spot that they gently caress up and that leaves Kingston speechless is probably my favorite commentary moment of all time.
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Nov 10, 2016 07:46
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Gavok posted:Working on my list of the 20 funniest Chikara matches, the one takeaway I'm getting here is that I really miss Eddie Kingston's solo commentary, where he gleefully called out everything as being both the best and the worst. Please link this when it's up.
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Nov 10, 2016 14:09
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Cibernetico (Dasher/Ophidian/6 others vs Hallowicked/Kobald/6 others) main events the evening card of the Dec 3 Chicago finale. And now we have a major match announced for the afternoon card, as it's a Mask vs Mask Match between Amasis and Frightmare.
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Nov 10, 2016 22:07
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Jay 2K Winger posted:Cibernetico (Dasher/Ophidian/6 others vs Hallowicked/Kobald/6 others) main events the evening card of the Dec 3 Chicago finale. Gotta think Amasis is doin' the job there
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Nov 10, 2016 23:06
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Lone Goat posted:Please link this when it's up. Here we go. CHIKARA Pro Wrestling: The 20 Funniest Matches. Enjoy!
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Nov 11, 2016 02:14
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For those who aren't following the indies thread or Twitter in general, Quack cut ties with Joey Styles over his EVOLVE performance.
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Nov 14, 2016 21:30
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quote:The events of the last few days have been just cause to take a look at the state of professional wrestling. The art form that I love, and have dedicated my entire adult life to, is embarrassingly behind the times. It is beholden to outdated tenets that threaten to render it...obsolete at worst, and a punchline at best. Huge amount of respect for Quack for this
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Nov 14, 2016 22:04
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He probably didn't need to go on about "mark" for half of it, but other than that!
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Nov 14, 2016 22:12
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It was the right call. Maybe a no-brainer but people seem to struggle with those in wrestling all the time, so good for Quack.
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Nov 14, 2016 22:13
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As soon as I saw new replies in the Chikara thread I knew it would be bout Joey Styles getting fired. What a loving idiot
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Nov 14, 2016 23:46
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Joey Styles once (supposedly) punching out JBL is his only redeeming feature. A bit like when Jeremy Clarkson punched Piers Morgan.
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Nov 15, 2016 00:27
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Endless Mike posted:He probably didn't need to go on about "mark" for half of it, but other than that! His point was more about the nature of the modern business relationship with the fans. It's kind of weird, since "misogynistic, racist, and/or homophobic speech, written or verbal" would cover a lot. In any promotion? In any angle? Effective from now, or retroactively?
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Nov 15, 2016 16:51
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The Chikara Action Arcade Wrestling crowdfunding thing has just a few hours left and they're at 93%. Just $1655 left. In other words, a way better hustle than that other game they tried to make.
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Nov 17, 2016 04:06
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Looks like Cesaro topped them off, which is an insanely cool thing to do
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Nov 17, 2016 05:49
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Beef Jerky Robot posted:Looks like Cesaro topped them off, which is an insanely cool thing to do Hundred bucks more and he could have had the Ultimate Chikara VIP Package.
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