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Abbott's motivation for pulling funding from landcare was probably because he saw it as a massive repository for greens voters, with the added bonus of giving youth something to do instead of play video games or do drugs or whatever kids do these days.
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The Peccadillo posted:John Key quit for some reason? Prob sick of Turnbull hanging around him at summits.
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Dec 5, 2016 01:37
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:One of my sister-in-laws works in managing part of the green army. I hope she doesn't lose her job.
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Dec 5, 2016 02:26
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Oh good....GuardianAU posted:[snip] World fukt.
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Dec 5, 2016 03:19
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Put trade sanctions on us IMO
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Dec 5, 2016 03:21
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I'm glad that my skin will melt off before I'm thrown in a camp.
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Dec 5, 2016 03:21
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Climate change is a problem and should be combated. A regressive taxation system where the polluters pass the price onto the consumers is not a good method for combating it. Should spend the green army money on reforestation, purchasing and protecting old growth and funding renewable subsidy schemes imo.
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Anyone who thinks that any combination of carbon tax, reforestation or other grand scheme to address climate change will succeed is delusional. [EDIT: I should probably point out that I'm all for a carbon taxes and reforestation, just very pessimistic.]
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Dec 5, 2016 03:35
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hooman posted:Oh good.... link please
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Dec 5, 2016 03:36
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open24hours posted:Anyone who thinks that any combination of carbon tax, reforestation or other grand scheme to address climate change will succeed is delusional. The two data points we have for whether the carbon tax effectively reduced emissions are not enough for a statistical sample, but nevertheless those two years it was in effect saw a reduction in real emissions by like 10% or something? All of which has been made up since. Whether it helps mitigate climate change or not is another story but still.
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Les Affaires posted:link please Whoopsy, I meant to attach it at the bottom... https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/dec/05/australia-is-blowing-its-carbon-budget-projections-reveal
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http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-pirates-australia-tax-20161024-snap-story.html I'm glad we have plenty of money to help out struggling companies like Disney.
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open24hours posted:I'm glad we have plenty of money to help out struggling companies like
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The Peccadillo posted:John Key quit for some reason? 
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Byolante posted:Climate change is a problem and should be combated. A regressive taxation system where the polluters pass the price onto the consumers is not a good method for combating it. Should spend the green army money on reforestation, purchasing and protecting old growth and funding renewable subsidy schemes imo. Source your quotes.
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Dec 5, 2016 05:40
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actually putting a price on carbon that is regressive is exactly what we should be doing
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Les Affaires posted:actually putting a price on carbon that is regressive is exactly what we should be doing You think putting the burden on the people who can afford it least is the correct way to behave?
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Byolante posted:You think putting the burden on the people who can afford it least is the correct way to behave? Yes.
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Les Affaires posted:Yes. Fair enough
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Dec 5, 2016 05:53
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HEY REMEMVER THE CPRS?
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Dec 5, 2016 05:56
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Nab And Westpac have raised interest rates on investment home loans
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tithin posted:Nab And Westpac have raised interest rates on investment home loans I think I want to say 'good' but I'm happy to be corrected. Economics isn't my strong suit. E: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-05/italian-prime-minister-matteo-renzi-to-resign/8092314 quote:Mr Mattarella will have to embark on a round of consultations with party leaders before naming a new prime minister — Italy's fifth in as many years — who will be tasked with drawing up a new electoral law. Haha what a garbage almost-country. Pick a leader, guys!
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Starshark posted:I think I want to say 'good' but I'm happy to be corrected. Economics isn't my strong suit. short answer: yes it is good if your goal is to tip the balance back towards owner-operators
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flapy vajannawings posted:
anyone have a graph that compares our current carbon spike to conditions like the carboniferous era? like, 'the poles are covered in rainforest' is not exactly a great goal but i'm curious if we're going to exceed carbon levels that have existed ever or just beyond the scope of human experience
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Dec 5, 2016 06:49
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tithin posted:Nab And Westpac have raised interest rates on investment home loans And owner occupiers....
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ungulateman posted:anyone have a graph that compares our current carbon spike to conditions like the carboniferous era? Lord Moncton told me of the benefits of tropical beaches on the coast of Antarctica and hell, I am all for it. Always wanted to make a summer trip to Mount Vinson.
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"Barnaby Joyce needs to clarify any arrangement he has with Don Burke and why he is preferring to take advice from a celebrity gardener as opposed to industry representative bodies who have direct contact with those who will be most affected by this ill-conceived relocation," Mr Fitzgibbon said. lmaooooo
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Dec 5, 2016 07:04
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tithin posted:Nab And Westpac have raised interest rates on investment home loans Is this to meet bank capital adequacy regulations? Does it increase profits too?
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open24hours posted:How are kids going to learn the value of a hard day's work now? Anidav posted:WftD. Work for the dole on an undocumented asbestos reclamation project without any safety gear or workcover.
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Dec 5, 2016 07:13
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quote:Mr Burke acknowledged that it was politically advantageous for Mr Joyce to move the agency to the heart of his electorate with taxpayers footing the bill, but Mr Burke said he believed the minister was working, ultimately, for the good of the nation. Don burke, rambly old man
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I know it looks like corruption but it totally isn't in this case, just trust me! SLY WINK *applause sign lights up*
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tithin posted:Nab And Westpac have raised interest rates on investment home loans It's happening? Starshark posted:
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‘It’s a bad principle to axe your own policy for the Greens policy,’ former prime minister complains
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DancingShade posted:Which party is the Commodore 64? The Australian Democrats. It was a great console in its day, but now its only remembered in deference to it being superceded by the Commodore Amiga (The greens) The Socialist Worker Party (Or any one of its descendents) was the MSX. A fragmented family of vaguelly related consoles that where awesome in theory , but nobody owned at all. And the Democratic Socialists where the Dick smith wizard, owned by even less people. and wasnt actually very good at all. I'm not sure who the Amstrads where, but Amstrads owned.Probably just the Anarchists. All good fun, until someone got their eye poked out.
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You Am I posted:It's happening? If anything, European democracy is the future of Australian democracy unless they seriously "fix" the system to prevent it.
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Dec 5, 2016 07:55
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Surprised they haven't had higher investment property rates already since the interest is part of what people claim.
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Nibbles! posted:Surprised they haven't had higher investment property rates already since the interest is part of what people claim. It's all a balancing act. the rates go down, people increase their lending so as to run as close to $16k as possible in order to avoid tax. People don't want to be running a profit greater than the tax free threshold. Interest rates increase, repayments increase, which would normally be a good thing, but because people are gearing themselves out the arse, they've got no money left to account for the increase.
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