|
It's probably the double-the-size L2 cache that's helping there. I, too, like any sensible person, values smoothness in frame times. Interesting.
|
#
?
Mar 6, 2017 11:24
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 23, 2024 08:22 |
|
|
Watermelon Daiquiri posted:Just because "I wish you died of cancer" (as an example of the messages he was getting) is normalized, that doesn't make it actually a good thing. If "I'll kill you' is at one point and 'die from cancer' is at another point below it, both of those are still so loving far above the ground that they look close to the same height! FFS, the internet needs some goddamn civility injected right into its rear end cheeks. You have an account on a forum called Something Awful which is notorious for pushing the envelope. Glass houses. Stones. Etc. Relax it wasn't a serious threat. To call "I hope your family gets cancer" a serious death threat for reviewing Ryzen badly is a stretch, and downplays serious death threats on the internet. Rabid Snake fucked around with this message at 12:20 on Mar 6, 2017 |
|
#
?
Mar 6, 2017 12:15
|
|
|
Rabid Snake posted:You have an account on a forum called Something Awful which is notorious for pushing the envelope. The cancer threat was just pointed out because in the sea of death threats it stood out as technically not being a death threat. Lol. This is SA but I havent read a single death threat over a review on SH SC ever. In 10 years at least. Sure GBS is full of them but that's not really equivalent to r/amd either
|
|
#
?
Mar 6, 2017 13:29
|
|
|
Hating on that reviewer could become a thing on Reddit, then it will suck for them. Theres really no chance of that happening here. Reddittors as a group can be utterly retarded. HalloKitty posted:It's probably the double-the-size L2 cache that's helping there. I think it's that. We need better reviews. GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 14:22 on Mar 6, 2017 |
|
#
?
Mar 6, 2017 13:54
|
|
|
The Ryzen chips don't look great for now, they look acceptable, but games like BF1 make it look like they might age well.
|
|
#
?
Mar 6, 2017 15:41
|
|
|
xthetenth posted:The Ryzen chips don't look great for now, they look acceptable I disagree, from all other perspectives other than gaming, the value is excellent. If you're just talking about gaming, right now, then they're merely fine. Yeah.
|
|
#
?
Mar 6, 2017 16:14
|
|
|
They looked fine to me. It's a little sad that a 50+% increase in IPC and its just merely competitive now but if I put all that behind me its quite nice that they are competitive now so... thats what matters. I did find it a ~bit misleading~ to focus completely on the "$1000 cpu bested in gaming??!!!" because while its completely true its also completely unrealistic (since, obviously, a $350 intel also beats a $1000 intel in that) although im sure thats more fleshed out in the real reviews. I think the R5's will be where its at.
|
|
#
?
Mar 6, 2017 16:20
|
|
|
HalloKitty posted:I disagree, from all other perspectives other than gaming, the value is excellent. If you're just talking about gaming, right now, then they're merely fine. Yeah. Yeah, I meant specifically for gaming use. I've actually got one sitting on my bed waiting for a motherboard because I don't only game (heck, I might want to try my hand streaming) and my motherboard and depression brain started acting up at exactly the right time to make me want to update.  I'm pretty confident that with the way it looks like game engines are starting to get some real threading going it'll be good in the long term for gaming too, and I figure that the long term performance is more important for avoiding it becoming unacceptable so it's more important than a bit better performance in the short term.
|
|
#
?
Mar 6, 2017 16:21
|
|
|
my setup: GTX 970 2x monitors at 1080p 1 1080p 65" TV 1 4K 40" TV Stuff is starting to lag once I hooked up my 65" TV. Ughhhhh, what model 1080 should I look at?
|
|
#
?
Mar 6, 2017 22:08
|
|
|
89 posted:my setup: Any are as fast as any other, get one that's really quiet like the MSI Gaming X 8G.
|
|
#
?
Mar 6, 2017 22:24
|
|
|
My setup lagging on a 970 sound normal?
|
|
#
?
Mar 6, 2017 22:30
|
|
|
The 1080 is supposed to drop to $500 this week so make sure you're not paying much more than that. Looking at the online retailers I see some down at $500 and some still up over $550.89 posted:My setup lagging on a 970 sound normal? Which games? Are you just gaming on one monitor? MaxxBot fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Mar 6, 2017 |
|
#
?
Mar 6, 2017 22:31
|
|
|
MaxxBot posted:The 1080 is supposed to drop to $500 this week so make sure you're not paying much more than that. Looking at the online retailers I see some down at $500 and some still up over $550. It's lagging on even the desktop, Google chrome, anything. It's only when I have 4 displays. 3 doesn't have a problem...but I need all 4
|
|
#
?
Mar 6, 2017 22:38
|
|
|
89 posted:It's lagging on even the desktop, Google chrome, anything. It's only when I have 4 displays. 3 doesn't have a problem...but I need all 4 Does the 4k TV lag when it's plugged in by itself? I'm guessing a 40" 4K TV might be a kinda cheap one, and I've seen some cheap TVs just absolutely wreck poo poo when being used as a monitor.
|
|
#
?
Mar 6, 2017 22:42
|
|
|
Lockback posted:Does the 4k TV lag when it's plugged in by itself? I'm guessing a 40" 4K TV might be a kinda cheap one, and I've seen some cheap TVs just absolutely wreck poo poo when being used as a monitor. Nope it's perfectly fine even when the 4K TV (it's used as a 3rd monitor) and the 2 1080p monitors are hooked in. It's just when I have the 1080p TV hooked into my display port (DisplayPort to HDMI adaptor > onkyo reciever > 65" TV). The 4K TV is a Samsung KU6300 which is one of the better TVs for monitor usage.
|
|
#
?
Mar 6, 2017 23:05
|
|
|
If it's just input lag, it's not exactly uncommon for AV receivers to add a significant amount of it, fwiw.
|
|
#
?
Mar 6, 2017 23:06
|
|
|
Gwaihir posted:If it's just input lag, it's not exactly uncommon for AV receivers to add a significant amount of it, fwiw. The mouse skips
|
|
#
?
Mar 6, 2017 23:14
|
|
89 posted:Nope it's perfectly fine even when the 4K TV (it's used as a 3rd monitor) and the 2 1080p monitors are hooked in. It's just when I have the 1080p TV hooked into my display port (DisplayPort to HDMI adaptor > onkyo reciever > 65" TV). Try connecting one of the displays that you don't use for games through the IGP.
|
|
|
#
?
Mar 6, 2017 23:26
|
|
|
AVeryLargeRadish posted:Try connecting one of the displays that you don't use for games through the IGP. It lags before I even play a game. Update: I changed the refresh rate on my 4K TV from 60Hz to 50Hz and the lag was gone. Then I changed it back from 50Hz to 60Hz and it's working fine. For now...
|
|
#
?
Mar 6, 2017 23:44
|
|
|
89 posted:It lags before I even play a game. I suspect it's not a horsepower problem with your card. Possibly a weird connection issue. A newer card may behave better, maybe not. In the 970s defense your setup is pretty unusual....
|
|
#
?
Mar 7, 2017 00:22
|
|
|
89 posted:It lags before I even play a game. I would be interested in some pics of your setup. Gotta see this "must have" 2 tv 2monitor goon cave
|
|
#
?
Mar 7, 2017 00:26
|
|
|
Lube banjo posted:I would be interested in some pics of your setup. Gotta see this "must have" 2 tv 2monitor goon cave  Living Room (50Ft HDMI cable)  Yeah yeah, cable management and stuff. I rent, so I don't really care.
|
|
#
?
Mar 7, 2017 00:36
|
|
89 posted:It lags before I even play a game. Yeah, I know, the idea is to take some stress off of the GPU by running a monitor that you don't use for games through the IGP, you would not want to play games on the IGP hence why I said to connect a monitor that you won't be playing games on via that instead of through the video card.
|
|
|
#
?
Mar 7, 2017 00:36
|
|
|
And then if I want to be Mr. Cool and take up an extra 15% of my CPU, I can make my setup do this: https://vid.me/3wAd IGP, that the integrated card?
|
|
#
?
Mar 7, 2017 00:47
|
|
|
"Rented" a ASUS PG348Q from Newegg (Open Box, trying to justify my Premier account some) and got a lucky good one. (Though it looks like some kid with candy hands repackaged the thing and just threw everything back in, amazingly without damaging the screen unlike the one my buddy with the 2 1080Ti's coming got).  Holy crap is G-Sync something I didn't know I needed. 100FPS with and without G-Sync is noticeable way more than I expected. I haven't played something that can pull down my 980Ti yet at 3440X1440 (Isn't BF1 supposed to be hard to push to 100FPS at this res?) but man is this screen tempting as hell to keep. Optimally I would like to get a mount arm so I can still have a 1440P screen to the left side of the thing on my desk to use (once you go multi monitor, its hard to go back) but I would consider a different one that isn't married to DLDVI at this point.Anyone want a QNIX 1440P that overclocks to 100hz and a ASUS VG278H 120Hz 3D Vision 2 1080P Monitor? Kinda pisses me off that a 980Ti is really this drat powerful for normal Monitor gaming, but it isn't near enough for the high end VR activities I enjoy like Elite remaining at 90FPS at all times.
|
|
#
?
Mar 7, 2017 00:49
|
|
EdEddnEddy posted:"Rented" a ASUS PG348Q from Newegg (Open Box, trying to justify my Premier account some) and got a lucky good one. (Though it looks like some kid with candy hands repackaged the thing and just threw everything back in, amazingly without damaging the screen unlike the one my buddy with the 2 1080Ti's coming got). Yeah, people really underestimate the difference adaptive sync tech can make. I was sure I would need to get a 1070 when I got my XB271HU and moved up to 1440p, but my 970 is actually holding up well because of Gsync making everything so smooth.
|
|
|
#
?
Mar 7, 2017 00:57
|
|
|
EdEddnEddy posted:Isn't BF1 supposed to be hard to push to 100FPS at this res?
|
|
#
?
Mar 7, 2017 01:46
|
|
|
so is there a way to pre-order a 1080ti on amazon or some poo poo or do I have to play with my phone during work meetings friday and hope I snipe two 
|
|
#
?
Mar 7, 2017 06:39
|
|
|
Scionix posted:so is there a way to pre-order a 1080ti on amazon or some poo poo or do I have to play with my phone during work meetings friday and hope I snipe two The last option, unfortunately.
|
|
#
?
Mar 7, 2017 07:12
|
|
|
CDHiggs posted:The last option, unfortunately. Start playing up stomach trouble on Thursday that way you get leeway for an extended emergency potty break during Fridays meeting. hope the bathrooms have wifi/reception.
|
|
#
?
Mar 7, 2017 07:20
|
|
|
Zero VGS posted:The example they posted was "I hope your family gets cancer"... which is not a death threat. As someone whose kid sister is a 12 year survivor of brain cancer with two surgeries... it's still a pretty loving uncouth thing to wish on someone over an internet review. Four out of the last 10 christmases have been wrecked by either shadows on MRIs, sudden radiation treatments, or actual brain surgery. Yeah, welcome to the internet and all that, but still, just grow the gently caress up. I think Joker's an idiot and maybe a bit of a tankie for AMD, I don't wish he had cancer. If you identify that strongly with a many-billion-dollar company... might be time to step back and rethink your priorities a little. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 07:34 on Mar 7, 2017 |
|
#
?
Mar 7, 2017 07:32
|
|
|
I really hope the supply shortages aren't as bad with the 1080 Ti as with the 1070/1080 as I'd like to wait a couple weeks and read all of the reviews before choosing a card. I'm also curious as to if the 3rd party cards will be ready for sale on the same date as the reference ones, I haven't seen much detail on that point.
|
|
#
?
Mar 7, 2017 07:34
|
|
|
Words are cheap, especially on the anonymous internet.
|
|
#
?
Mar 7, 2017 07:36
|
|
|
I've had computers with Intel CPUs and nVidia cards since i was old enough to build computers, but it sure as hell wasn't brand loyalty. At the start it was ignorance and taking what I could get and when I got older/had more money it was because those two companies had the best stuff in my price range at that time. I don't understand how people essentially brand themselves so willingly. Like, AMD is doing good in my book. I don't game much but I do stuff that benefits from more cores (audio stuff mainly, along with some video stuff) so if I was building a computer now I'd honestly go Ryzen. But holy poo poo the response from people has been crazy. Like, really, take a step back and realize it's a product. It's not gentle ribbing from the other team, it's straight up abuse from people. They're companies people. If they make a product you want, get it. If not, don't. Don't go apeshit if someone dislikes thing X you think is good.
|
|
#
?
Mar 7, 2017 10:38
|
|
|
I think we've gotten to a point in capitalist thought that since luxuries have become rare indulgences instead of uncommon ones, that I think some people become unhinged when they feel what they've spent their discretionary/disposable income on has now become a bastion of *pride* for them, and if someone suggests or insults their judgment (and their parting with a significant amount of money), they're going nuclear. poo poo's existed for over a century now between the domestic car fanboys, and how *they* find common ground making GBS threads on people who buy imports...whereas computer component fanboyism is relatively new and unfortunately comprised in no small part by a decent amount of really dedicated trolls who need no motivation whatsoever to go *megaton* on anyone who dares question their preferences, knowledge, or ~authoritah~.
|
|
#
?
Mar 7, 2017 11:06
|
|
|
syntaxfunction posted:But holy poo poo the response from people has been crazy. Like, really, take a step back and realize it's a product. It's not gentle ribbing from the other team, it's straight up abuse from people. They're companies people. If they make a product you want, get it. If not, don't. Don't go apeshit if someone dislikes thing X you think is good.
|
|
#
?
Mar 7, 2017 13:56
|
|
|
BIG HEADLINE posted:I think we've gotten to a point in capitalist thought that since luxuries have become rare indulgences instead of uncommon ones, that I think some people become unhinged when they feel what they've spent their discretionary/disposable income on has now become a bastion of *pride* for them, and if someone suggests or insults their judgment (and their parting with a significant amount of money), they're going nuclear. I dunno man, I find the level of fanboyism for PCs pretty silly when it's easily one of cheapest hobbies out there.
|
|
#
?
Mar 7, 2017 14:04
|
|
|
Palladium posted:I dunno man, I find the level of fanboyism for PCs pretty silly when it's easily one of cheapest hobbies out there. Also because it's so easy to objectively compare one piece of PC hardware to another, there's less subjectivity involved even than something like cars. At least Ryzen is a product worth defending though, the fanboys who spent 4 years defending garbage bulldozer CPUs are hard to wrap my head around.
|
|
#
?
Mar 7, 2017 16:24
|
|
|
Palladium posted:I dunno man, I find the level of fanboyism for PCs pretty silly when it's easily one of cheapest hobbies out there. You should see guitar players. They think very little of dropping 2 grand on the tube amp of the day. $400 on a reverb pedal? Sure! I've seen dudes have 50k worth of gear and just wank around at home.
|
|
#
?
Mar 7, 2017 16:27
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 23, 2024 08:22 |
|
|
+1 for PC's being the cheapest hobby ive ever had lol. It's kind of sad, but my entire unnecessarily extravagant PC (in normal people's eyes) can get lost in some pipe on a car id buy offhanded one night.
|
|
#
?
Mar 7, 2017 16:39
|
|