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The Ninth Layer
Jun 20, 2007

Nobody commented on my "last name" case? Maybe you all are bougie scum.

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sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

DID YOU SEE MY
PEYOTE QUEEN?

Max posted:

Nah. I'm coming at him for a badly constructed scummy post.

I'm not sure if I agree with him, but don't think it's all that wrong to be suspicious of mmt for that reason

you agree with mmt, but surely you can at least understand why people would be suspicious of mmt if they didn't agree?

CCKeane
Jan 28, 2008

my shit posts don't die, they multiply

this is a stickup posted:

hope it goes okay!

I feel like you are here though, considering you replied in just four minutes

Yes, this is the end of my workday and I am now home.

This happens a lot with games. Somebody says "IDK WHERE'S KEANE HE HASN'T BEEN AROUND ALL DAY" at like 4 and then when I post go WELL THERE WE ARE I SEE YOU POSTED RECENTLY. HEH HEH HEH.

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

what a cool dude

Kashuno posted:

Ehhhhh I agreee MMT looks scummy but not enough to vote yet. Dog mother jumps on "yeah me too agreed" but I'm missing them having real solid self opinions.

Part of the reason I'm voting MMT is because of the way she defended her vote. MMT didn't try to convince me Stickup was scum not laugh it off (like a town would do), MMT instead defended the vote in an attempt to convince the town the vote came from a legitimate place

Max
Nov 30, 2002

this is a stickup posted:

I'm not sure if I agree with him, but don't think it's all that wrong to be suspicious of mmt for that reason

you agree with mmt, but surely you can at least understand why people would be suspicious of mmt if they didn't agree?

Day 1 content is normally like squeezing blood from a stone, I take what I can get and push it.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Pinterest Mom posted:

Nah, you don't think you've caught scum. You just want to make it Very Clear to the thread that you, a very serious person, Don't Like My Posting.

I agree with PMom on this one. It looks like Kash cares more about visibility than anything else.

Max
Nov 30, 2002

The Ninth Layer posted:

Nobody commented on my "last name" case? Maybe you all are bougie scum.

Max posted:

My role PM says nothing about nationality but I am from a merchant class family.

dogmother1776
Apr 16, 2016


possible username bias I admit

The Ninth Layer
Jun 20, 2007

Your Personal Muse posted:

Part of the reason I'm voting MMT is because of the way she defended her vote. MMT didn't try to convince me Stickup was scum not laugh it off (like a town would do), MMT instead defended the vote in an attempt to convince the town the vote came from a legitimate place

This feels like scum reaching to be honest. Is there really so much nuance to your fresh-out-the-gate D1 vote?

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Kashuno posted:

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM BAD.

This reaction is so over the top I want to barf

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer

Your Personal Muse posted:

Part of the reason I'm voting MMT is because of the way she defended her vote. MMT didn't try to convince me Stickup was scum not laugh it off (like a town would do), MMT instead defended the vote in an attempt to convince the town the vote came from a legitimate place

I can understand your perspective. Still not feeling it but I don't think your post makes you scum


Rarity posted:

I agree with PMom on this one. It looks like Kash cares more about visibility than anything else.

Eh I went on to further expand on my vote

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer

Rarity posted:

This reaction is so over the top I want to barf

:sun:

Max
Nov 30, 2002

Kashuno posted:

Ehhhhh I agreee MMT looks scummy but not enough to vote yet. Dog mother jumps on "yeah me too agreed" but I'm missing them having real solid self opinions.


I feel like this is really opportunistic

Opportunistic would be if everyone else was like "hmm, I dunno about that YPM fellow" and I read it and threw a vote down.

In reality, it was a hot take vote.

The Ninth Layer
Jun 20, 2007

Wouldn't it have been even scummier if Murmur Twin pretended her first serious vote of the game was a slam dunk on scum?

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Your Personal Muse posted:

This is really irking me. Before hand, I was ready to write it off as just a player jumping the gun or making a joke that didn't land. But my main issue it this feels forced. Good enough to vote on Day 1? Stickup didn't even vote. Did MMT actually believe that Stickup would use his "number of words contained within a scum PM" to nail Asiina? It doesn't make sense and seems like the wrong kind of manufactured content day 1.

##vote MMT

Max posted:

That seems like a super manufactured post that's trying too hard.

I really appreciated the italics in forced in particular

Max
Nov 30, 2002

Rarity posted:

I really appreciated the italics in forced in particular

Haha, I didn't even notice that.

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer

Max posted:

Opportunistic would be if everyone else was like "hmm, I dunno about that YPM fellow" and I read it and threw a vote down.

In reality, it was a hot take vote.

Eh how do you feel about YPM expanding on their vote?

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

what a cool dude

The Ninth Layer posted:

This feels like scum reaching to be honest. Is there really so much nuance to your fresh-out-the-gate D1 vote?

Yes? Is that really nuanced? I'm sure that if we had night actions and lynches and maybe a couple of pages worth of posting history I would have something more substantial and direct.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Kashuno posted:

Eh I went on to further expand on my vote

Not much. If you put as much time into explaining your case as you do in showing us how DEEP IN THOUGHT you are I might think you were towny.

##vote Kash

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

DID YOU SEE MY
PEYOTE QUEEN?

The Ninth Layer posted:

Wouldn't it have been even scummier if Murmur Twin pretended her first serious vote of the game was a slam dunk on scum?

not really imo. look at it from this pov: if town thinks they've nailed someone, they'll probably push to the ends of the earth to close. scum would not, as (WIFOM) pushing too hard can draw attention to yourself. most throw stuff out there and see what sticks.

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer

Rarity posted:

Not much. If you put as much time into explaining your case as you do in showing us how DEEP IN THOUGHT you are I might think you were towny.

##vote Kash

This vote makes no sense to me but okay

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer

this is a stickup posted:

not really imo. look at it from this pov: if town thinks they've nailed someone, they'll probably push to the ends of the earth to close. scum would not, as (WIFOM) pushing too hard can draw attention to yourself. most throw stuff out there and see what sticks.

I do not like this post

The Ninth Layer
Jun 20, 2007

this is a stickup posted:

not really imo. look at it from this pov: if town thinks they've nailed someone, they'll probably push to the ends of the earth to close. scum would not, as (WIFOM) pushing too hard can draw attention to yourself. most throw stuff out there and see what sticks.

If you're all inning on a read you made 3 pages into a Mafia game you're doing it wrong.

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

what a cool dude

Kashuno posted:

I do not like this post

As in don't agree or think it's scummy?

The Ninth Layer
Jun 20, 2007

Your Personal Muse posted:

Yes? Is that really nuanced? I'm sure that if we had night actions and lynches and maybe a couple of pages worth of posting history I would have something more substantial and direct.

Uhhh I think what you have is a little TOO substantial for how early we are. I certainly couldn't begin to make a WIFOM case for what town you would be doing this early in the game.

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

DID YOU SEE MY
PEYOTE QUEEN?

The Ninth Layer posted:

If you're all inning on a read you made 3 pages into a Mafia game you're doing it wrong.

I agree but people do this. regardless mmt is far too smart to do that as scum OR town so the whole point is moot

The Ninth Layer
Jun 20, 2007

this is a stickup posted:

I agree but people do this. regardless mmt is far too smart to do that as scum OR town so the whole point is moot

No, the point isn't moot when YPM is making claims that Murmur Twin not doing that means she's not town.

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer

Your Personal Muse posted:

As in don't agree or think it's scummy?

The former I believe

The Ninth Layer
Jun 20, 2007

##unvote ##vote YPM

Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

what a cool dude

The Ninth Layer posted:

Uhhh I think what you have is a little TOO substantial for how early we are. I certainly couldn't begin to make a WIFOM case for what town you would be doing this early in the game.

Ah my apologies, I didn't realize substance was an epidemic around here.

MMT bad, should vote

The Ninth Layer
Jun 20, 2007

I think bullshit "substance" is an epidemic. Or did you forget that Mafia have to make up reasons for their fake suspicions?

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

DID YOU SEE MY
PEYOTE QUEEN?

The Ninth Layer posted:

No, the point isn't moot when YPM is making claims that Murmur Twin not doing that means she's not scum.

ah, I thought you were just replying to me there, not still referring to ypm

I don't agree with ypm for the same reason; mmt is a player I hold in very high regard. not sure that makes him scum though.

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer

this is a stickup posted:

I agree but people do this. regardless mmt is far too smart to do that as scum OR town so the whole point is moot


The Ninth Layer posted:

No, the point isn't moot when YPM is making claims that Murmur Twin not doing that means she's not town.

Agreed with TNL here this defense is really bizarre in context.

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer
##unvote TNL how do you feel about stickup

sentimental snail
Nov 22, 2007

DID YOU SEE MY
PEYOTE QUEEN?

Kashuno posted:

Agreed with TNL here this defense is really bizarre in context.

who do you think I am defending?

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer

this is a stickup posted:

who do you think I am defending?

Mmt

The Ninth Layer
Jun 20, 2007

Kashuno posted:

##unvote TNL how do you feel about stickup

I am getting new player vibes. I've never played with stickup though.

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer

The Ninth Layer posted:

I am getting new player vibes. I've never played with stickup though.

They are not new at this point fyi

The Ninth Layer
Jun 20, 2007

Eh. Then I have a null read. Can buy a townie may not have realized I was continuing a point directed at YPM.

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Your Personal Muse
Oct 5, 2010

what a cool dude

The Ninth Layer posted:

I think bullshit "substance" is an epidemic. Or did you forget that Mafia have to make up reasons for their fake suspicions?

Your case on me is that my case on MMT is reaching. Sure, that's a reason not to agree with my case. But if I'm scum for building a case partly on WIFOM (which I will admit), how is MMT not scum for doing that same on her very first post.

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