|
I agree this Inf vs. pmom mess needs to be resolved. I have a  theory about what's going on with this claim/counter claim business, but there's too many pieces of the puzzle missing.Also, my opinion on slamburger has not changed, and I don't think the push on said player has merit. ##vote Inf
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 16:32
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 27, 2024 12:13 |
|
|
IllegallySober posted:Okay, I'm caught up finally. Arf arf. (This a scum post.)
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 16:32
|
|
|
CCKeane posted:Arf arf. good pt
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 16:34
|
|
|
CCKeane posted:Arf arf. Hmmm, yes, great argument. IllegallySober posted:- I'm suspicious of Keane and to a lesser extent, TNL, as both are leaning on flavor while not making much in the way of arguments. This a scum dog.
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 16:56
|
|
|
My worry for choosing between inf and pmom is they I think at this point they might both be town. Lynching one and having them pop town could be indicative of the other being scum... if we are going to lynch one of the two infi is the obvious choice though based on the sorta flip-flopping. It also bothers me that pmom won't share who he targeted and I believe claimed that it failed?(sorry can't remember, gotta look it up) There's more information to be had from that and if scum kill you tonight we are going to lose it. It's fishy to me that you are completely against sharing when you've outed yourself as doctor and will most likely die tonight.
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 17:04
|
|
|
Mayor Glowku posted:My worry for choosing between inf and pmom is they I think at this point they might both be town. Lynching one and having them pop town could be indicative of the other being scum... These seem very opposed for back-to-back sentences.
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 17:08
|
|
|
Pinterest Mom posted:I already said my action failed, and me saying who I tried to target doesn't give anyone any actionable information. Found the post I was referring to. Telling us who you used your action on absolutely does provide information. You are just dancing around this so no one can counterclaim your counterclaim. Who did you try to doc?
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 17:09
|
|
|
IllegallySober posted:These seem very opposed for back-to-back sentences. Ok how else do I say I think they are both town but also say if we lynch one and they flip town everyone will go batshit on the other like SCUUUUMMMM.
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 17:10
|
|
|
Actually the second way I said it is probably better.
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 17:11
|
|
|
Mayor Glowku posted:Found the post I was referring to. Telling us who you used your action on absolutely does provide information. You are just dancing around this so no one can counterclaim your counterclaim. Who did you try to doc? How would a proposed target of a claimed-roleblocked ability cause someone to be able to counterclaim Unless you're implying there might be a tracker that saw him go somewhere, in which case this still doesn't make sense because, uh, he claimed to have been roleblocked
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 17:17
|
|
|
Mayor Glowku posted:Found the post I was referring to. Telling us who you used your action on absolutely does provide information. You are just dancing around this so no one can counterclaim your counterclaim. Who did you try to doc? let's pretend i claim i tried to protect hal. what do you do with this info.
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 17:21
|
|
|
*whines* (Pmom seems in pretty deep on a lot of bullshit but it's absolutely a null tell. Move I'd like to see, if I'm commander of the game, is to move on from Inf and PMom since the conflict started very early and would likely result in a resolution. We may be able to draw some conclusions from both of them claiming a power role and neither dying, but I'm unsure as to the actual benefit in resolving this today, particularly since the fighting on this issue is largely relatively useless in terms of gathering alignment information. Also pee pee poo poo.)
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 18:11
|
|
|
So you are claiming that you attempted to use your ability on Hal? I'm more interested in why you are so against just saying who it was.CCKeane posted:*whines* Then where should we go pupper commander
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 18:17
|
|
|
*licks self* (I'd probably pursue the breakdown of 100/slam that happened last night and did not meet a resolution. But alas, I am bowling.)
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 18:18
|
|
|
Did that dog just talk by licking itself?
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 18:36
|
|
|
Mayor Glowku posted:So you are claiming that you attempted to use your ability on Hal? I'm more interested in why you are so against just saying who it was. I'm not claiming that. I'm saying "let's role-play, with me claiming Hal, and you using that information, which you said would be useful, to draw conclusions, and if I'm satisfied that it is indeed useful information, and not just you hammering away at an irrelevant point, I'll claim for real."
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 18:37
|
|
|
Mayor Glowku posted:My worry for choosing between inf and pmom is they I think at this point they might both be town. Lynching one and having them pop town could be indicative of the other being scum... if we are going to lynch one of the two infi is the obvious choice though based on the sorta flip-flopping. Thinking it through, I think the only risk is that Pmom reveals a player who is potentially defenseless tonight. Though that may amount to nothing since Pmom is now a high-value target. Pinterest Mom posted:I'm not claiming that. I'm saying "let's role-play, with me claiming Hal, and you using that information, which you said would be useful, to draw conclusions, and if I'm satisfied that it is indeed useful information, and not just you hammering away at an irrelevant point, I'll claim for real." I can't think of anything super useful to be gleaned from your claim, other than we know someone who you think is both town and maybe important, though it being D2 any opinion of yours on the matter is just pure chance/speculative so pretty overall useless.
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 18:48
|
|
|
CCKeane posted:*licks self* I did! And I voted you and no one seems to want to listen to me. I also want to just side-step infinitum for the moment since I think there'll be plenty of time to get back to it. Out of the two infinitium's double claims makes him instantly more suspicious but I figure we can check the veracity of that in the coming days. Honestly if he is what he claims he'll also be a high-level target and scum will work it out for us.
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 18:50
|
|
|
Pinterest Mom posted:I'm not claiming that. I'm saying "let's role-play, with me claiming Hal, and you using that information, which you said would be useful, to draw conclusions, and if I'm satisfied that it is indeed useful information, and not just you hammering away at an irrelevant point, I'll claim for real." So you are lying and refuse to tell us who you tried to doc. OK I'm happy you are playing like this, it's both helpful and fun.
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 18:53
|
|
|
I understand how you think it's useless information, I do not understand why you absolutely refuse to share what you did. It's not a good look tbh
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 18:56
|
|
|
If pmom wasnt playing this way I would think something was wrong
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 18:59
|
|
|
Mayor Glowku posted:So you are lying and refuse to tell us who you tried to doc. OK I'm happy you are playing like this, it's both helpful and fun. You're hounding me to claim a useless bit of information where the best case scenario is "ok. he claimed it. every player in the thread can read the post, and see that he claimed it." and the worst case scenario is "scum didn't actually roleblock me, but now know that there's a player who is untargetable by night actions". So, maybe, just stop doing that.
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 19:15
|
|
|
Pinterest Mom posted:You're hounding me to claim a useless bit of information where the best case scenario is "ok. he claimed it. every player in the thread can read the post, and see that he claimed it." and the worst case scenario is "scum didn't actually roleblock me, but now know that there's a player who is untargetable by night actions". So, maybe, just stop doing that. I won't stop until you give the answer. If you are the doctor why wouldn't they kill you instead of the person you targeted last night? Maybe because you are lying about being doctor? There's plenty of options and all of them include me not letting go of the fact that you full claimed your role aside from who you targeted.
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 19:45
|
|
|
If you'd like to vote me for refusing to provide information that you acknowledge is useless, you're welcome to.
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 19:51
|
|
|
Claiming a target provides information that might be proven or disproven, is helpful if you flip town and everyone has to piece roles and night actions together without you, and doesn't really hurt anybody. Same goes for Infi.
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 20:20
|
|
|
IllegallySober posted:These seem very opposed for back-to-back sentences. Having a "white mage" doctor and a "seraph knight" doctor-ish role together on the town is reasonable, especially in a flavor-heavy game where one townie has already flipped with an "ancient vampire" roleblocker-ish role. Assume that both are town, and that both are pissed at each other because of how D1 went, and one of them gets lynched. "Well it wasn't Infi/PMom, so that means it must be PMom/Infi," and you've lost two perfectly useful protective roles for no reason. Setting it up today as "well we have to resolve it with one of them" is a false choice.
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 20:32
|
|
|
zzyzx posted:Claiming a target provides information that might be proven or disproven, is helpful if you flip town and everyone has to piece roles and night actions together without you, and doesn't really hurt anybody. Same goes for Infi. i've already said i didn't go anywhere last night, so 
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 20:52
|
|
|
zzyzx, do you think it likely both Inf and Pmom are town?
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 20:53
|
|
|
Pinterest Mom posted:i've already said i didn't go anywhere last night, so I don't think you did. You said it failed, who did you attempt to use your power on? If you think it's useless why does it matter to share it? zzyzx posted:Claiming a target provides information that might be proven or disproven, is helpful if you flip town and everyone has to piece roles and night actions together without you, and doesn't really hurt anybody. Same goes for Infi. This is my point. Also side note I believe infi claimed he can't use his ability yet.
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 21:00
|
|
|
Generally do role-blockers block their target from visiting another player? Or does the role-blocked player visit their target but their action fails as a result of the RB?
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 21:00
|
|
|
Mayor Glowku posted:I don't think you did. You said it failed, who did you attempt to use your power on? If you think it's useless why does it matter to share it?
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 21:01
|
|
|
Dick Bastardly posted:Generally do role-blockers block their target from visiting another player? Or does the role-blocked player visit their target but their action fails as a result of the RB? I believe it prevents them from any action, but it is up to the disgression of the mod in the end. Pinterest Mom posted:Again, if this is the hill you want to die on, I invite you to vote for me. The question is WHY IS THIS THE HILL YOU CHOOSE TO DIE ON?
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 21:03
|
|
|
You're relying on hounding me about a piece of useless information as a crutch. Free yourself of it.
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 21:04
|
|
|
Pinterest Mom posted:You're relying on hounding me about a piece of useless information as a crutch. Free yourself of it. You're relying on not having to claim who you doc'd just in case someone was watching you and you didn't get roleblocked? Because you are scum?
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 21:05
|
|
|
Mayor Glowku posted:You're relying on not having to claim who you doc'd just in case someone was watching you and you didn't get roleblocked? Because you are scum? If that's what you're claiming, you should definitely vote for me, because that would mean I'm lying, yes.
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 21:07
|
|
|
You are acting incredibly obtuse and more importantly anti-town
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 21:07
|
|
|
who cares
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 21:09
|
|
|
You fueled a stupid argument that ruined day one, and are now acting incredibly annoying.
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 21:11
|
|
|
Mayor Glowku posted:You are acting incredibly obtuse and more importantly anti-town You've been acting like you really really want to vote for me all day. poo poo or get off the pot.
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 21:11
|
|
|
|
| # ? Apr 27, 2024 12:13 |
|
|
Pinterest Mom posted:You've been acting like you really really want to vote for me all day. poo poo or get off the pot. I only wanted to vote for you after you came back with basically a "gently caress you" when asked who you tried to doc. Other people have chimed in as well with the same request, what do you get out of not saying who you doc'd?
|
|
#
?
Apr 9, 2017 21:13
|
|