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team overhead smash posted:Checked out the Kindle sample. Seems more like a "which tank is best"/"who would win in a fight" type book. I'm more looking for something on the research race as the sides continually up-armoured/up-gunned. You might find that for specific tanks, but I don't think that there is a book covering a large number of them in any appreciable detail.
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Ensign Expendable posted:You might find that for specific tanks, but I don't think that there is a book covering a large number of them in any appreciable detail. That's too bad. A book on the differing research methodologies and requirements in tank design would make for interesting reading, even if you had to split it into separate books for each power.
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Ensign Expendable posted:You might find that for specific tanks, but I don't think that there is a book covering a large number of them in any appreciable detail. Mycroft Holmes posted:That's too bad. A book on the differing research methodologies and requirements in tank design would make for interesting reading, even if you had to split it into separate books for each power. There are at least some that present themselves as if they do like The Tank Factory , Death by Design and Rude Mechanicals for the UK, Mobility, Shock, and Firepower: The Emergence of the U.S. Army's Armor Branch, 1917-1945 for the USA, German Late War Armored Fighting Vehicles for Germany. The only thing is I have no idea if they're any good.
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team overhead smash posted:Checked out the Kindle sample. Seems more like a "which tank is best"/"who would win in a fight" type book. I'm more looking for something on the research race as the sides continually up-armoured/up-gunned. "My tank is best tank because torsion bars."
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Mycroft Holmes posted:That's too bad. A book on the differing research methodologies and requirements in tank design would make for interesting reading, even if you had to split it into separate books for each power. Armored Champion does do this somewhat, as the book is split across different eras and theaters of operation. It doesn't go into as much detail as it probably could, but it's certainly an interesting read into what went into making a "Good" tank for the time.
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Does anyone know of an article or anything anywhere that gives a rundown of modern body armor systems and their performance?
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The best tank is the prettiest tank. That's why A7V and St Chammond were poo poo while MK IV and FT-17s were great.
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JcDent posted:The best tank is the prettiest tank. Isn't this actually how Nazi tank procurement worked?
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GotLag posted:Isn't this actually how Nazi tank procurement worked? the best tank is the artisinal-est tank. Nazis = hipsters, I guess.
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The Führer was a starving artist, checks out.
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No kidding, check this poo poo out: http://www.hipsterhitler.com
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Remora posted:Does anyone know of an article or anything anywhere that gives a rundown of modern body armor systems and their performance? There's the NIJ standard that defines the performance for levels focused largely on police usage. This chart summarizes:  In the context of the US military wikipedia can give you the basics of the evolution from the PASGT, to the Interceptor Body Amor, to the Improved Outer Tactical Vest. This general idea might be the next evolution, but there have been several others that were ultimately canceled.
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Does the US (or a comparable contemporary military) still use a flamethrower? If so, what model is it, and how has it changed since the early/mid 20th century?
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I believe it's all incendiary and/or thermobaric rockets and recoilless-rifle shells these days. Does a flamethrower's job but with ten times the range.
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Napalm and related incendiary gravity bombs are still all the rage if you need to reach out and touch someone( with fire).
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gradenko_2000 posted:Does the US (or a comparable contemporary military) still use a flamethrower? If so, what model is it, and how has it changed since the early/mid 20th century? They probably have some because things don't always just disappear or get thrown away when something better tailored for certain situations gets developed. Sure we have laser guided FAE bombs but there's probably some part of the broader military decision tree that calls for marines carrying flamethrowers and werfing flammen into various nooks and crannies. It's just that the wars the US has fought in the recent few decades have had irregular forces hiding in isolated caves that our planes can just lob thermobarics down into.
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Yeah, but handheld werfers are not part of the USMC inventory any longer, so they'd have to build and issue one if that came up.
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The current hotness for replacing air, breathing, for the purpose of with fire, breathing, for the neutralization of are incendiary rockets such as the US M202 FLASH, the RPO-A Shmel with its incendiary rocket (it also has a smoke and thermobaric rocket), and the FHJ-84.
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so you're saying that flamethrowers are now... lamethrowers?
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choose your own adventure: 1) fire a rocket from behind cover 200m from the target 2) slowly walk up to the target with a bigass fuel tank on your back
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bewbies posted:choose your own adventure: Where's the option to question my previous life choices?
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Where's the option to question my previous life choices? In your holster.
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bewbies posted:choose your own adventure: Tias posted:Yeah, but handheld werfers are not part of the USMC inventory any longer, so they'd have to build and issue one if that came up. Marine: that tank better be amphibious and vtol capable FAUXTON fucked around with this message at 14:57 on Aug 7, 2017 |
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FAUXTON posted:Marine: that tank better be amphibious and vtol capable Seems like a job for quadcopters!
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xthetenth posted:Seems like a job for quadcopters! *crashes a Chinook into an Osprey*
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FAUXTON posted:*crashes a Chinook into an Osprey* 3 more marines died in an osprey crash yesterday
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Speaking of amphibious tanks, what were the descendants of the Sherman DD? Is there an Abrams variant out there that can swim?
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Better not tell Trump about the flamethrower gap. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_Bo2ro60ro
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gradenko_2000 posted:Speaking of amphibious tanks, what were the descendants of the Sherman DD? Is there an Abrams variant out there that can swim? The Sheridan could either go amphib or had a variant that could IIRC. I'm pretty sure our general take on that has been to go deep on air superiority and use aircraft/helicopters for fire support in a contested landing, though.
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Though they do produce a sand crawler for use in amphibious landings.
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gradenko_2000 posted:Speaking of amphibious tanks, what were the descendants of the Sherman DD? Is there an Abrams variant out there that can swim? Modern consensus is that amphibious crossings are a bad loving idea https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTDqcfPUTt0
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xthetenth posted:Seems like a job for quadcopters! Actually, assuming they can carry sufficient explosions could be a valid method for delivering ordnance, particularly around corners, down/up stairs and such. Is this already a thing?
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Fangz posted:Better not tell Trump about the flamethrower gap. And I thought being a human bipod for rifles and MGs looked unpleasant.  BattleMoose posted:Actually, assuming they can carry sufficient explosions could be a valid method for delivering ordnance, particularly around corners, down/up stairs and such. Is this already a thing? ISIS has been using them for scouting, as flying bombs, and to drop rifle grenades or gas. TerminalSaint fucked around with this message at 16:40 on Aug 7, 2017 |
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BattleMoose posted:Actually, assuming they can carry sufficient explosions could be a valid method for delivering ordnance, particularly around corners, down/up stairs and such. Is this already a thing? They can, but the capability is pretty underwhelming at this point any everyone is hurriedly developing various ways to deal with drones so it may well wind up being the kind of tech that never really takes off so to speak.
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Amphibious capability is like those theoretical powers the queen has, that only persist so long as she refrains from using them.
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https://twitter.com/senorrinhatch/status/894584061934452736 Sorry Senator it means cum now.
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I'll wad you, sonny jim.
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Here's a news report on the impact of ISIS drone bombing in Raqqa. It's not winning battles or anything, but it has definite tactical impacts now.
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That moment when the technological advantage your military used to have gets used by the bad guys (Battle of Taranto/Prince of Wales & Repulse Never Forget). I've been reading Shattered Sword on the recommendation of this thread and it's fantastic. Leaves me wanting a CYOA as one of the Japanese senior political or military leaders. a) That plan's insane! Reject it and reduce military spending before our economy collapses and all our neighbors hate us (turn to page 4: you are assassinated). b) stonewall and keep military spending stable while you try to build consensus against this insane plan (are you Yamamoto? If not, turn to page 4 where you are assassinated). c) OUR INVINCIBLE SPIRIT WILL LEAD US TO VICTORY! Increase military spending and design strike plans against your neighbors and local superpowers (turn to page 88 for the first 6 months and then turn to page 44 where the rest of the advanced world kicks your poo poo in, sinks your carrier group and nukes your hometown. But at least you didn't get assassinated).
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