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SHALASHASKA HAWKE
Nov 10, 2016

No child soldier in poverty by 1990
fwiw I though b-minus busb vote was th kind of thing scum can pull to look like theyre around without being called on it, woulb vote but holy hell do I prefer Xof

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Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
What do you guys think of SC64?

votefinder
Jul 6, 2010

scoop scoop
:beerpal: Votecount for Day 1 :beerpal:

b-minus1 (5): SLASHER HAWKE, SLASHER HAWKE, Bifauxnen, The Ninth Layer, Xad, Anidav, flerp
Xad (3): SLASHER HAWKE, Tired Moritz, Anidav, SLASHER HAWKE, SLASHER HAWKE, SirSamVimes, SLASHER HAWKE, Tired Moritz, Anidav, SLASHER HAWKE, Tired Moritz, Tired Moritz, Tired Moritz
The Ninth Layer (2): Infinitum, Xad, peramene, peramene, busb, peramene, Infinitum, Infinitum, peramene, Xad, Infinitum, Bifauxnen, peramene, Bifauxnen
Infinitum (2): Tired Moritz, Venom Soag, STONE COLD 64, Tired Moritz, The Ninth Layer, flerp, SLASHER HAWKE, Tired Moritz, Anidav, SLASHER HAWKE, Anidav, Tired Moritz, flerp, The Ninth Layer
Tired Moritz (2): Prince of Space, Prince of Space, Infinitum, peramene, Bifauxnen, Tired Moritz, Tired Moritz, Jeabus Mahogany, Bifauxnen, peramene, peramene, peramene, flerp, flerp
busb (1): Infinitum, flerp, Infinitum, SLASHER HAWKE, SLASHER HAWKE, b-minus1, flerp
Anidav (1): The Ninth Layer, Bifauxnen, Jeabus Mahogany, Jeabus Mahogany, Bifauxnen, The Ninth Layer, Infinitum, Infinitum, Natural 20
Prince of Space (1): Little Mac
tpink (1): SLASHER HAWKE, Jeabus Mahogany, SLASHER HAWKE, Jeabus Mahogany, Prince of Space, Jeabus Mahogany, Jeabus Mahogany
curiousCat (0): Tired Moritz, Tired Moritz
Drunk Nerds (0): Jeabus Mahogany, Jeabus Mahogany
Little Mac (0): Jeabus Mahogany, Jeabus Mahogany
SLASHER HAWKE (0): Jeabus Mahogany, Jeabus Mahogany
Natural 20 (0): SLASHER HAWKE, SLASHER HAWKE
Venom Soag (0): SirSamVimes, SirSamVimes, Natural 20, Natural 20, Xad, Xad
Jeabus Mahogany (0): SLASHER HAWKE, SLASHER HAWKE, SLASHER HAWKE, SLASHER HAWKE
tithin (0): SLASHER HAWKE, Infinitum, SLASHER HAWKE, busb, Infinitum, busb
Retro Futurist (0): Tired Moritz, Tired Moritz

Not Voting (7): curiousCat, Drunk Nerds, iajanus, Mithross, Retro Futurist, tithin, tpink :rubshands:

With 25 people still alive, it takes 13 votes to execute.
The current deadline is January 02nd, 2018 at 8 p.m. EST -- that's in about 2 hours, 54 minutes.

:cheers: First day back to work means no extra flavor today, but one last reminder - all Day ability usage MUST be entered into your character sheet BEFORE your thread hammers for it to count! :cheers:

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


The very first thing I posted in our chat was an explanation of the masonry, and to not be alarmed by the big member list cause it was all 3 mods in there. I explained it was private so he could fullclaim. I reminded him no numbers were allowed, but he should paraphrase what all he has to work with.

After a long pause with still no B- around, I said he would need class, backround, and rank info AS WELL, and he should post his claims immediately even if I was asleep when he showed up.

When he finally did, he posted just the background, class and rank. I could see that as a possible misunderstanding, that I was asking for ONLY those, but...

after that, I asked for his abilities, and which ones he could do in which phase and which ones required Shine. He never did clarify about the Shine. And he left out a passive ability he just newly claimed.

flerp
Feb 25, 2014

Anidav posted:

What do you guys think of SC64?

i think hes nice and i like him :)

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

flerp posted:

your lack of posting concerned me because ur usually more active (holidays, obv, play a part in this but it still struck me as a bit odd). it was also a bit of a meta feel because i felt like you werent posting as ur usual self.

most of bminus's posts r mostly nothing, excuses, or thin cases. but the big thing is that there ARE posts in a way that makes me feel like theyre just posts to be like "yeah im here!" so to both avoid getting lurker killed and to make it seem like youre active so as to avoid getting put in the lurker pool.

like i said, it wasnt anything i could actually work w/ because there is nothing there. you were in the back of my mind, but i was more interested in more scummy people like infi because they had posts we could read.

I’ll post here what I just posted in my mason chat, since it applies to more than just bif

It is day 1. Do you realize that we will almost be incredibly wrong in our reads? I don’t enjoy spending an insane amount of time making cases on d1 content. You’ve played games with me before and, you should know that I come on strong once there’s actual content to discuss (deaths,night actions, etc)
Ive provided reads, admittedly not at the detailed level of some people, but I’ve been around for all of d1

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


Bifauxnen posted:

The very first thing I posted in our chat was an explanation of the masonry, and to not be alarmed by the big member list cause it was all 3 mods in there. I explained it was private so he could fullclaim. I reminded him no numbers were allowed, but he should paraphrase what all he has to work with.

After a long pause with still no B- around, I said he would need class, backround, and rank info AS WELL, and he should post his claims immediately even if I was asleep when he showed up.

When he finally did, he posted just the background, class and rank. I could see that as a possible misunderstanding, that I was asking for ONLY those, but...

after that, I asked for his abilities, and which ones he could do in which phase and which ones required Shine. He never did clarify about the Shine. And he left out a passive ability he just newly claimed.

yeah I can't think of any reason someone would be reluctant to share information in a private doc with confirmed town

##vote negative b

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

Bifauxnen posted:

The very first thing I posted in our chat was an explanation of the masonry, and to not be alarmed by the big member list cause it was all 3 mods in there. I explained it was private so he could fullclaim. I reminded him no numbers were allowed, but he should paraphrase what all he has to work with.

After a long pause with still no B- around, I said he would need class, backround, and rank info AS WELL, and he should post his claims immediately even if I was asleep when he showed up.

When he finally did, he posted just the background, class and rank. I could see that as a possible misunderstanding, that I was asking for ONLY those, but...

after that, I asked for his abilities, and which ones he could do in which phase and which ones required Shine. He never did clarify about the Shine. And he left out a passive ability he just newly claimed.

That is seriously what pinged you? LOL

I didn’t see that I had a pm with a link to the discord. Podima messaged me on discord telling me to check my pms, which I promptly did, and immediately joined the thread.

Xad
Jul 2, 2009

"Either Sonic is God, or could kill God, and I do not care if there is a difference!"

College Slice

SLASHER HAWKE posted:

fwiw I though b-minus busb vote was th kind of thing scum can pull to look like theyre around without being called on it, woulb vote but holy hell do I prefer Xof

So I get that your gimmick is spelling things wrong, but are you also getting used to a dvorak keyboard or something?

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

Bifauxnen posted:

The very first thing I posted in our chat was an explanation of the masonry, and to not be alarmed by the big member list cause it was all 3 mods in there. I explained it was private so he could fullclaim. I reminded him no numbers were allowed, but he should paraphrase what all he has to work with.

After a long pause with still no B- around, I said he would need class, backround, and rank info AS WELL, and he should post his claims immediately even if I was asleep when he showed up.

When he finally did, he posted just the background, class and rank. I could see that as a possible misunderstanding, that I was asking for ONLY those, but...

after that, I asked for his abilities, and which ones he could do in which phase and which ones required Shine. He never did clarify about the Shine. And he left out a passive ability he just newly claimed.

But I literally said “I have more info if you want” and you said no that’s ok. Jesus christ

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

b-minus1 posted:

But I literally said “I have more info if you want” and you said no that’s ok. Jesus christ

Bif, not but

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

b-minus1 posted:

But I literally said “I have more info if you want” and you said no that’s ok. Jesus christ

You didn’t ask about the shine and I’m still a little confused about how it works, but lol. All this time I thought we were working together.

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


b-minus1 posted:

But I literally said “I have more info if you want” and you said no that’s ok. Jesus christ

I said no I did not need the "specific descriptive words" in your background and rank you said you were refraining from sharing. And AFTER that I went on to ask you to sum up your abilities. But you left out that passive one you just told me now.

Xad
Jul 2, 2009

"Either Sonic is God, or could kill God, and I do not care if there is a difference!"

College Slice

Anidav posted:

What do you guys think of SC64?

Forgot he was in the game until recently because he has made a grand total of *checks clipboard* 3 posts.

Not a fan of his reasoning on inf being the "gently caress inf, don't care if he's scum" thing that a few other posters have echoed, but the wrestler-style posts are funny imo, he'll get prodded by lurker rules at this rate. Not too worried about him for now.

busb
Mar 19, 2009

Thorgie

SLASHER HAWKE posted:

fwiw I though b-minus busb vote was th kind of thing scum can pull to look like theyre around without being called on it, woulb vote but holy hell do I prefer Xof

I pointed this out yesterday.

I can't believe how pissy TNL and tired Moritz have been haha like walk away from your screens haha dayum

##vote bminus
Comes in to defend himself, lets jokevote languish even though his defense is he had responded to everything and been active enough, but not active enough to actually say who he thinks is scum or vote.

flerp
Feb 25, 2014

b-minus1 posted:

I’ll post here what I just posted in my mason chat, since it applies to more than just bif

It is day 1. Do you realize that we will almost be incredibly wrong in our reads? I don’t enjoy spending an insane amount of time making cases on d1 content. You’ve played games with me before and, you should know that I come on strong once there’s actual content to discuss (deaths,night actions, etc)
Ive provided reads, admittedly not at the detailed level of some people, but I’ve been around for all of d1

that doesnt excuse your complete lack of anything. im the same way, i suck rear end on d1, i hate d1, d1 loving sucks. but ive still been trying to post and you havent been until now when it turns out you have the chance to be lynched

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

Bifauxnen posted:

I said no I did not need the "specific descriptive words" in your background and rank you said you were refraining from sharing. And AFTER that I went on to ask you to sum up your abilities. But you left out that passive one you just told me now.

We are splitting hairs here. You clearly know more about large mafia games and roles than I do.

Haha this is insane. I guess I’ll go ahead and full claim everything I told bif when I first joined the discord.

Jeabus Mahogany
Feb 13, 2011

I'm mad because of a thorn in my impenetrable hide
Well, b- was one of the people that I thought wasn't posting as much as I would have normally expected. If what Bif is saying is true (which there is zero reason for her to lie about it, she's not Inf) and he hasn't even been posting in a masonry with a confirmed town, then ##vote b-minus1

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before
Eh it’s nkt gonna matter. As you’ll see when I’m lynched. You’ll probsvly see my flip. Well I think I would have been useful too.

Thanks for nothing bif. There was clearly a reason you chose me to be advisor. But I didn’t think it would be you who prevented me from even getting a chance. Good job.

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


b-minus1 posted:

Eh it’s nkt gonna matter. As you’ll see when I’m lynched. You’ll probsvly see my flip. Well I think I would have been useful too.

Thanks for nothing bif. There was clearly a reason you chose me to be advisor. But I didn’t think it would be you who prevented me from even getting a chance. Good job.

No last words of who your reads are and everything? Cool, thanks for making it easier.

Xad
Jul 2, 2009

"Either Sonic is God, or could kill God, and I do not care if there is a difference!"

College Slice

b-minus1 posted:

We are splitting hairs here. You clearly know more about large mafia games and roles than I do.

Haha this is insane. I guess I’ll go ahead and full claim everything I told bif when I first joined the discord.

Okay so let's assume this is all a big misunderstanding between you and Bif. Why not uh, spend a post or so playing mafia and trying to scumhunt if you're so worried about proving your innocence? Because I doubt a full claim will clear your name, unfortunately. I get not wanting to post on day 1 cause day 1 sucks, but you can't just dip from the thread all day and only come back when there's heat on you.

Jeabus Mahogany
Feb 13, 2011

I'm mad because of a thorn in my impenetrable hide

b-minus1 posted:

Eh it’s nkt gonna matter. As you’ll see when I’m lynched. You’ll probsvly see my flip.

How the hell do you know? Claim, dude

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

Jeabus Mahogany posted:

How the hell do you know? Claim, dude

Ok. Sorry I was mad when I wrote that post. Gimme a minut, I’m on my phone

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


The town B- I knew could pull his own crazy cop gambit to rival Inf, but turn it back around and talk straight with us afterwards, enough that it could make me suddenly realize he was town after all. The town B- I knew could stare down a whole angry town and still give his best parting words to try and help the town as much as he could on the way out.

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


Jeabus Mahogany posted:

How the hell do you know? Claim, dude

Claiming abilities will not help in any way whatsoever. I want reads. Something that shows he has been following the game and trying to suss out who's scum. They don't have to be right, they don't have to be confident, but they have to be THERE. he's just whining about it in our channel too.

Natural 20
Sep 17, 2007

Wearer of Compasses. Slayer of Gods. Champion of the Colosseum. Heart of the Void.
Saviour of Hallownest.
So B-minus has seemed a little off today, but it wasn't something I'd counted as a huge deal.

That said, I think it's genuinely really bad to just have not attended a masonry with the leader for a few days and to have been found to be withholding abilities for some reason. Especially with the only person we know for certain to be town.

##vote b-minus1

Jeabus Mahogany
Feb 13, 2011

I'm mad because of a thorn in my impenetrable hide

Bifauxnen posted:

Claiming abilities will not help in any way whatsoever. I want reads. Something that shows he has been following the game and trying to suss out who's scum. They don't have to be right, they don't have to be confident, but they have to be THERE. he's just whining about it in our channel too.

Fair point. You can always say what he claimed anyway

Cartridgeblowers
Jan 3, 2006

Super Mario Bros 3

Hi, I'm just caught up (mostly skimmed to get here). For what it's worth, I think b-minus' response reads genuine but I mean, I don't think there's someone else to vote for in 2.5 hours. I'll hold my vote to the end.

I also would still very much like to vote Prince of Space.


Bifauxnen posted:

he's just whining about it in our channel too.

Whining is not winning.

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

Jeabus Mahogany posted:

How the hell do you know? Claim, dude


Bif asked for the basics:

My first post: Awesome! The basics: I am Roberto, town alignment. I’m a farmer, class is a tactician and a private rank.

Bif said “yeah I don’t need any of that stuff” and asked me to sum up my abilities

I can collect gear from a random dead player at the end of a battle. I can provide cover for another player in battle. I have very weak melee and range attacks. And I have an ability to join a battle in a rank of my choice. There are a few other specific descriptive words in my background and rank but Ill refrain from sharing them unless you think it’s ok.I know I said I want to be in the first battle, but I sort of think I will be more useful in battle later in the game.

I didn’t mention that I was immune to fire, which makes me think there is some sort of arsonist or fire role. I don’t know why I didn’t say that right away, I was worried about posting too much from my role pm.

Anything else, feel free to ask.

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


b-minus1 posted:

Bif asked for the basics:

My first post: Awesome! The basics: I am Roberto, town alignment. I’m a farmer, class is a tactician and a private rank.

Bif said “yeah I don’t need any of that stuff” and asked me to sum up my abilities


I can collect gear from a random dead player at the end of a battle. I can provide cover for another player in battle. I have very weak melee and range attacks. And I have an ability to join a battle in a rank of my choice. There are a few other specific descriptive words in my background and rank but Ill refrain from sharing them unless you think it’s ok.I know I said I want to be in the first battle, but I sort of think I will be more useful in battle later in the game.

I didn’t mention that I was immune to fire, which makes me think there is some sort of arsonist or fire role. I don’t know why I didn’t say that right away, I was worried about posting too much from my role pm.

Anything else, feel free to ask.

B- has posted some things out of order.

SHALASHASKA HAWKE
Nov 10, 2016

No child soldier in poverty by 1990
abilities isn’t really detrrminative of alignment for me

b-minus, who’s the scum?

busb
Mar 19, 2009

Thorgie
who cares about abilities vote for a scum and tell us reads moroon

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before

Bifauxnen posted:

B- has posted some things out of order.

Jesus Christ. I moved one sentence before another. What the gently caress is wrong with you

SHALASHASKA HAWKE
Nov 10, 2016

No child soldier in poverty by 1990

busb posted:

who cares about abilities vote for a scum and tell us reads moroon

dONTA COpy me!!!1

Xad
Jul 2, 2009

"Either Sonic is God, or could kill God, and I do not care if there is a difference!"

College Slice

b-minus1 posted:

I am Roberto

oh no the robot revolution has started early

busb
Mar 19, 2009

Thorgie
oh hi bbirb

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


b-minus1 posted:

Jesus Christ. I moved one sentence before another. What the gently caress is wrong with you

you're trying to play it like I said I didn't need your abilities. You said you had specific PM wording or something you weren't sharing, and I said THAT was what I did not need.

AFTER that I askd for your abilities.

What's wrong with YOU, mate

b-minus1
Jul 24, 2008

She's a maniac, maniac
on the floor
And she's dancing like she's never danced before
Here are my scum reads:

Natural 20, busb, drunk nerds
Town reads. Flerp, venom soag xad, inf, jeabus

Neutral on everyone else. It’s day 1 ffs.

Bifauxnen
Aug 12, 2010

Curses! Foiled again!


like lol, the bit he quoted, he specifically left out the line where he said he was talking about specific PM words and then goes on to say "I didn't need that stuff" to make it sound like I didn't give a poo poo about claiming

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tpink
Feb 18, 2013

Melman

Little Mac posted:

Hi, I'm just caught up (mostly skimmed to get here). For what it's worth, I think b-minus' response reads genuine but I mean, I don't think there's someone else to vote for in 2.5 hours. I'll hold my vote to the end.

I also would still very much like to vote Prince of Space.


Whining is not winning.

Is your vote for Prince still just based on you thinking he scum-slipped by assuming Xad is town, or anything else since then?

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