[Mafia] Pretty, pretty, pretty good Mafia

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Hal Incandenza: Feb 12, 2004

Derby Ghost posted:

Play my game. Coward.

I have reread most of the thread since someone is being rude. I think that there wasn't much to the 50 lb. joke votes. B has been playing super defensive, but both Musha nd B were leaning heavy into meta to defend both of their actions. I said frustrated town yesterday in my very quick read and past Ghost is a dumb because I'm not so sure now. Is there any actual other case out there besides B? Because everything else seems like straight goofin.

Well there is some stuff about Quid not sure how you missed it

# ? Jan 18, 2018 02:22

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# ? May 20, 2024 03:05

Derby Ghost: Jan 13, 2018; A real piece of work.

Hal Incandenza posted:

Well there is some stuff about Quid not sure how you missed it

they love tetris and want to hit people with wiimotes?????????????

# ? Jan 18, 2018 02:24

50 pounds of bread: Sep 27, 2006

I would kill bee movie the baddy, and save derby ghost who has the best words.

# ? Jan 18, 2018 02:25

Hal Incandenza: Feb 12, 2004

Derby Ghost posted:

they love tetris and want to hit people with wiimotes?????????????

And bad vote on binus with worthless follow up �case�

# ? Jan 18, 2018 02:26

Derby Ghost: Jan 13, 2018; A real piece of work.

50 pounds of bread posted:

I would kill bee movie the baddy, and save derby ghost who has the best words.

Bee movie killed Pooh Bear.

Will they kill again? ? ? ? ? ?

# ? Jan 18, 2018 02:26

Hal Incandenza: Feb 12, 2004

I would kill 50 and then save him right after so he would be in debt and I could make him my butler

# ? Jan 18, 2018 02:27

Chic Trombone: Jul 25, 2010

3.5 hours 'til deadline fyi, I'll probably head to bed a bit before deadline

# ? Jan 18, 2018 02:27

Derby Ghost: Jan 13, 2018; A real piece of work.

Hal Incandenza posted:

And bad vote on binus with worthless follow up �case�

Nah.

I'm going to my partner's place and they don't have internet so I'm gonna be phone posting which is soooo much slower but I'm happy where my vote is and will try to see what peeps have to say.

# ? Jan 18, 2018 02:29

50 pounds of bread: Sep 27, 2006

Hal Incandenza posted:

I would kill 50 and then save him right after so he would be in debt and I could make him my butler

2real3me

# ? Jan 18, 2018 02:30

flerp: Feb 25, 2014

##vote bminus nobody would think im town

# ? Jan 18, 2018 02:44

CCKeane: Jan 28, 2008; my shit posts don't die, they multiply

I'll vote for anybody.

But mostly fiddy or Quid.

# ? Jan 18, 2018 02:45

Chic Trombone: Jul 25, 2010

A Current Votecount

Votecount for Day 1

b-minus1 (3): Quidthulhu, PMush Perfect, Anomalous Amalgam, ~~Anomalous Amalgam~~, 50 pounds of bread, ~~PMush Perfect~~, flerp

Quidthulhu (3): CCKeane, flerp, NevergirlsOFFICIAL, Hal Incandenza, ~~flerp~~

Anomalous Amalgam (3): got off on a technicality, Chic Trombone, PMush Perfect, ~~got off on a technicality~~, Derby Ghost

Hal Incandenza (1): got off on a technicality, 50 pounds of bread, ~~got off on a technicality~~, ~~50 pounds of bread~~, got off on a technicality

Chic Trombone (1): 50 pounds of bread, ~~50 pounds of bread~~, Anomalous Amalgam

Derby Ghost (0): PMush Perfect, ~~PMush Perfect~~

50 pounds of bread (0): b-minus1, ~~b-minus1~~

got off on a technicality (0): 50 pounds of bread, ~~50 pounds of bread~~

flerp (0): Quidthulhu, ~~Quidthulhu~~

CCKeane (0): Chic Trombone, flerp, ~~flerp~~, ~~Chic Trombone~~, flerp, ~~flerp~~

Not Voting (1): b-minus1

With 12 alive, it's 7 votes to execute. The current deadline is January 17^th, 2018 at 9 p.m. PST -- that's in about 3 hours, 12 minutes.

Still think AA is our best shot at dunking a scum

# ? Jan 18, 2018 02:48

girl dick energy: Sep 30, 2009; You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Derby Ghost posted:

they love tetris and want to hit people with wiimotes?????????????

I am deeply frustrated with your posting right now.

Reread Quid (didn't take long :j:

) but he's still sitting on a joke vote and hasn't really posted anything of substance since. But he hasn't posted at all today, so I'm still considering 'real life' as a potential factor. I'd vote him to prevent a no-vote, but otherwise I'm not really feeling it.

# ? Jan 18, 2018 02:59

girl dick energy: Sep 30, 2009; You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Hell, thinking about it, it's such a weak case with so little potential backfire for the voters, it actually kind of makes the people pushing for it look a lot worse.

# ? Jan 18, 2018 03:01

CCKeane: Jan 28, 2008; my shit posts don't die, they multiply

PMush Perfect posted:

Hell, thinking about it, it's such a weak case with so little potential backfire for the voters, it actually kind of makes the people pushing for it look a lot worse.

I think you'll find he posted after I said "the poster underneath this post is scum"

# ? Jan 18, 2018 03:06

Quidthulhu: Dec 17, 2003; Stand down, men! It's only smooching!

I

100% forgot I was in this game, lol

# ? Jan 18, 2018 03:07

girl dick energy: Sep 30, 2009; You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Quidthulhu posted:

I

100% forgot I was in this game, lol

That is impressive timing with a very weak reason.

You got a couple hours, Quid, wanna catch up and give us some thoughts?

# ? Jan 18, 2018 03:09

Chic Trombone: Jul 25, 2010

that sure is some timing, yeup.

# ? Jan 18, 2018 03:09

flerp: Feb 25, 2014

Quidthulhu posted:

I

100% forgot I was in this game, lol

hello quid

# ? Jan 18, 2018 03:12

Quidthulhu: Dec 17, 2003; Stand down, men! It's only smooching!

Anomalous Amalgam posted:

##vote b-minus

The reply to pmush looks like self-aware forced lies to make an otherwise joke vote credible, because they are scum and got nervous that the joke had come under real scrutiny.

That's what I think.

Open and shut.

Slam and dunk.

Roger and Wilco.

Anomalous Amalgam posted:

Hmmm...

I don't like P Mush's follow up reply. The only reason I thought bmin scum was because I thought P Mush was asking jokingly about bmin's vote.

I'm torn between which reads more suspiciously.

##unvote

This is the second time in the thread AA voted and then immediately second guessed himself, yeah? I remember people thinking he was susp for doing that earlier in thread and then he does it again. I think that might be more indicative of him being town, but I'm interested to see if anyone calls him out again on this, or if someone complained the first time and ignored it the second time....

# ? Jan 18, 2018 03:12

Quidthulhu: Dec 17, 2003; Stand down, men! It's only smooching!

b-minus1 posted:

When I made that post, I didn't think that people would actually think that I thought there's four scum in this game. I was only suggesting that perhaps 50 pounds was soft busing his scumteam with some of his jokephase votes. I have since explained why that post pinged me - i've seen a similar play before.

I've been trying to make sense of why what I thought was a relatively harmless post blew up in my face. I reread the last page, and I now sort of understand why Pmush asked me to clarify my "serious" post. I think it's not because of my interpretation of 50 pounds' votes, but because I voted for him. When I made that post, I was well aware that we were still somewhat in jokephase, and everyone was making jokey votes based on non-serious reads. I was only trying to point out something that pinged me about 50 pounds, so I made a "serious" read and vote to see how he would respond (and other than immediately voting for me, he hasn't). I'd like to think that if I had made that post later in the game, when votes have much more weight to them, I would have only posted my reads without actually voting.

Hnnnnnh

I actually want to believe that b-minus is sincere for about 2/3rds of this but the second paragraph is just so verbose it looks like it has to be faked. But I think ultimately this is probably town b-minus because I tend to have a scum hardon for him pretty constantly for the reason I just stated, and I'm usually wrong.

# ? Jan 18, 2018 03:15

Quidthulhu: Dec 17, 2003; Stand down, men! It's only smooching!

Anomalous Amalgam posted:

I just felt the framing of the callout was weird. I don't think b min actually thought there were four scum in a 12 person game, and I feel like I could parse Fiddy's play as curious with all the voting.

I think P Mushs callout is not sincere.

I believe this also, I need to look at PMush around b-minus after I catch up.

# ? Jan 18, 2018 03:16

Quidthulhu: Dec 17, 2003; Stand down, men! It's only smooching!

Chic's giving me some scum vibes. Have some earlier feelies I need to go back and look at but this post in particular I don't like:

Chic Trombone posted:

that b-'s "blew up in my face" statement was odd

First, I don't agree with this interpretation; I think b-minus pretty clearly looks like a defeated woe is me townie over a self conscious caught scum. But more importantly, this is a direct parrot of one or two other opinions posted earlier.

quote:

also think it's interesting that they walked it back after only like 2 votes on them in this post, because "nobody agrees with me", the worst reason to back off a case

I just don't like this. I think it's kind of unnecessarily...targeted? If that makes sense? Like Chic looked at "I need to have an opinion on why the blew up comment is weird" but didn't really land explaining what's bad about the opinion, since they would be faking having that opinion. if that makes sense.

quote:

That said, b- does have a point about fiddy's disappearance here too

Ending with an about face opening to change their mind later. Pretty standard scum post all around, if you ask me.

##vote Chic

# ? Jan 18, 2018 03:20

Quidthulhu: Dec 17, 2003; Stand down, men! It's only smooching!

Anomalous Amalgam posted:

I also just want to point something out about the claim that I made a walk back.

My vote wasn't on a player in the game and I didn't assign it to anyone in votefinder, because it was a joke vote. I am unfunny.

I think this is a better explanation than awkwardness, albeit the truth.

I wanted to call chic and quid weird for noting it, but decided that perhaps, just maybe, it did look weird.

However, I want to go back on that, because I think the obvious joke posts, and vote on no one are weird things to jump on.

So chic and quid, I'd like to understand how you interpreted that as such.

This is also why I've stepped back from pmush and bees, and have decided that their interaction was genuine.

I don't really have any idea what the hell is going on in this post but "I have a guilty conscience about something basically unrelated to the game and must announce it" feels more town guilt than scum guilt to me.

# ? Jan 18, 2018 03:22

Quidthulhu: Dec 17, 2003; Stand down, men! It's only smooching!

flerp posted:

theres a scumbo or two in here trying to lynch my friend b-

I agree with flerp!

# ? Jan 18, 2018 03:23

Quidthulhu: Dec 17, 2003; Stand down, men! It's only smooching!

Anomalous Amalgam posted:

I just figured if it was on vote finder and unassigned, scum could actually place it on someone. So to mitigate that completely. I just removed it.

Like i said previously, no nervousness or smoking gums or anything... It was just silly for the sake of silly. It's weirder that you are trying to make it a thing IMO.

Again, I buy this, and I feel like this is a very town thing to be guilty about and feel like you needed to announce to everyone. I see why people aren't interpreting it that way but to me this is something scum would just shut up about and try to laugh off later.

# ? Jan 18, 2018 03:24

Quidthulhu: Dec 17, 2003; Stand down, men! It's only smooching!

NevergirlsOFFICIAL posted:

I mean I get it, d1 pretty much all we have to go on is "vibes".

I don't think AA is scum simply because he's posting so much

I don't like this post. It says absolutely nothing.

# ? Jan 18, 2018 03:24

girl dick energy: Sep 30, 2009; You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

I disagree with you on just about every possible point, Quid, but at least you're posting now.

# ? Jan 18, 2018 03:25

Quidthulhu: Dec 17, 2003; Stand down, men! It's only smooching!

I don't like this response to that NevergirlsOFF post I just quoted:

Chic Trombone posted:

maybe i'm Out Of The Loop meta-wise but i don't think the average scum is more likely to lurk than the average town

I don't see how this is Chic's response to that weirdass post. It feels again like a weird shoehorned in talking buzzpoint that could devolve into a meta-mechanics discussion derail while seemingly looking like they are contributing. Scuuuuuuum.

# ? Jan 18, 2018 03:26

Quidthulhu: Dec 17, 2003; Stand down, men! It's only smooching!

PMush Perfect posted:

I disagree with you on just about every possible point, Quid, but at least you're posting now.

That's funny because my scumteam picks right now are Chic, Never, and you!

# ? Jan 18, 2018 03:27

Quidthulhu: Dec 17, 2003; Stand down, men! It's only smooching!

Anomalous Amalgam posted:

Yeah, I mean pessimism and ironic living is cool and all, but I'm just a simple dork. I'll never be cool enough to be uncool cool?

How could anything I'm saying be misconstrued as disgenuine? Like elaborate if you want to poke holes, don't just poop on my thoughts with no explanation.

Come on, guys, this is not a scum post.

# ? Jan 18, 2018 03:27

Quidthulhu: Dec 17, 2003; Stand down, men! It's only smooching!

Chic Trombone posted:

I have been explaining? I think you entered the game nervously and now you're upset about being caught out and are trying to manufacture a case on me in order to undermine my case on you

which is a pretty standard "omgus" technique

AA is voting for Chic at this point, but hasn't actually made a case on her:

Anomalous Amalgam posted:

I just figured if it was on vote finder and unassigned, scum could actually place it on someone. So to mitigate that completely. I just removed it.

Like i said previously, no nervousness or smoking gums or anything... It was just silly for the sake of silly. It's weirder that you are trying to make it a thing IMO.

Anomalous Amalgam posted:

Imma do this instead...

##vote Trombone

Anomalous Amalgam posted:

Kek, you really dwindling down what I'm saying to an omgus? Or ignoring my whole breakdown of my thoughts on you and bee? Or even agreeing that 50s day 1 joke votes could be suspicious.

Tut-tut, you'll have to do better.

Anomalous Amalgam posted:

These are mostly points that I raised, because there was no one talking and compared to everything else, this seems the best to discuss at the moment.

Are there other cases besides "this person hadn't said much"

Again, I don't understand why Chic is calling this anything but an OMGUS "I'm pissed at you" vote. It's almost weirdly defensive on HER part to assume AA is casing her; feels unnecessarily guilty. What's interesting furthermore is that this is the only thing AA says that looks remotely like a "case" on Chic:

Anomalous Amalgam posted:

It's weirder that you are trying to make it a thing IMO.

And she SPECIFICALLY calls that out:

Chic Trombone posted:

your talking points are basically "i think it's weird that you think it's weird" and i don't think you're being genuine AA

...before she then strengthens her case by saying he's "manufacturing a case against her." I am pretty sure it was the other way around; she manufactured him fake casing her when he isn't!

# ? Jan 18, 2018 03:32

Quidthulhu: Dec 17, 2003; Stand down, men! It's only smooching!

50 pounds of bread posted:

Right now I am just laughing about all the discussion being revolved around me. Am I scummy, or are the people who vote me scummy?

Initially I didn't like you kind of defending me by questioning bee movie, but then bee movie responded in the oddest way of ever forever.

Now AA is weird because he said the smart thing, then turned it into the dumb thing, but why?!

Then chic is like, hey AA, the thing you did before the dumb thing was weird, but the dumb thing is weird too so take this, then he went aha-chacha and did that thing.

Then flurpee was like, hey I'm a bug fluffy rabbit, don't kill the bees, and now I'm like, whaaaat?

Does everyone have a PR in this game to post like a storybook that's been run through a washing machine, or can I just not read english tonight?

# ? Jan 18, 2018 03:34

Quidthulhu: Dec 17, 2003; Stand down, men! It's only smooching!

Anomalous Amalgam posted:

Don't take acid and post lol, I'm having trouble parsing

OK not just me

# ? Jan 18, 2018 03:34

Quidthulhu: Dec 17, 2003; Stand down, men! It's only smooching!

got off on a technicality posted:

Deadline is 5am local time for me so I'm afraid I won't be around for that. As pmush said I'm uncomfortable with the lurking and would be happy to vote Hal, CCK or others who have been MIA. I also realize that the meta might be hostile to policy lynching lurkers on D1 but gently caress it.

Neither AA nor B- read as scummy to me. Awkward and/or overzealous but not scummy. 50 is as annoying as he was 5 years ago but I'm comfortable with that. I'm going to bed in an hour and will finalize my vote by then

A good, towne post

# ? Jan 18, 2018 03:35

Quidthulhu: Dec 17, 2003; Stand down, men! It's only smooching!

got off on a technicality posted:

Oh yes I would also be good with voting Derby or possibly Quid for those reasons

A bad, scum followe upe

# ? Jan 18, 2018 03:35

Quidthulhu: Dec 17, 2003; Stand down, men! It's only smooching!

flerp posted:

ive alrdy outed quid, so im assuming he gave up and/or having a meltdown in the scumdoc

lolol

# ? Jan 18, 2018 03:36

Quidthulhu: Dec 17, 2003; Stand down, men! It's only smooching!

b-minus1 posted:

That would be hilarious, but also that doesn�t seem like quid�s style. He usually doesn�t go down without a fight and based on his post history he hasn�t been active for a few days.

Yeah, good job, b-minus!

# ? Jan 18, 2018 03:36

Anomalous Amalgam: Feb 13, 2015; by Nyc_Tattoo; Doctor Rope

Things have happened, but I think Hal looks worst today honestly.

Doing things but aroundish.

# ? Jan 18, 2018 03:40

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# ? May 20, 2024 03:05

Quidthulhu: Dec 17, 2003; Stand down, men! It's only smooching!

NevergirlsOFFICIAL posted:

I'm solo parenting and not sure if I'll be able to be functional for deadline.

Thoughts on people who have votes on them

b-minus1 - not sure here. I think the vote on 50lbs was sincere. however it was followed by like three backtracking essays. would vote to avoid nolynch.

quid - ok, I'm thinking that quid is scum, potentially with b-. TO ME, it seemed clear that b- wasn't saying definitely there were 4 scum in game. I think quid was light bussing them, or zeroed in on them, then it got out of hand and disappeared. imho, prime lynch target.

aa - like I said before, lots of content, I don't think a good d1 lynch.

hal - suspicious. posted above " I keep looking but no one has said anything interesting" when frankly a lot of interesting posts have been made. and other than that, no contribution... this is my second choice for lynch.

chic - I don't think is scum. not getting that "vibe", good d1 content. I think aa's vote on chic is misguided.

## vote quid

Oh MAN, is this a scum post.

"I"m leaning neutral on b-minus and would really only vote to no dunk" to an immediate "quid is probably scum and MOST LIKELY WITH B-." That doesn't track at all. Also, notice: absolutely no mention of b-minus just hardcore defending me in a post literally three posts before this and yet never is connecting us together in a major way. How does that follow? The "light bussing" thing feels hardcore manufactured to me as well, although I might have been nice to b- earlier or something for all I know. Why would you make a major claim like that and not show your work with a quote? Feels like lazy scum needing to get something down on deadline day.

The AA opinion is really a null read at best - what in AA's content is good? The defending himself against Chic part? Does that mean you think Chic is scum? I don't know, because you mention Chic later but also have a null read opinion on her. Then Never names ANOTHER lurker as the other scum pick, and this post is done.

# ? Jan 18, 2018 03:40

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