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Asphyxious posted:Pod I both get a gut town read off as well as agreeing we shouldn’t punish people who are actually going to contribute, so again would rather not vote for pod. what do you mean, the same style of play? How can you even tell? Starting to think we got a Pod/Gaspy scumteam here, buds 
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Bifauxnen posted:what do you mean, the same style of play? How can you even tell? Piggybacking. Not being interested in the cases/how people are posting, but being super enthusiastic to drive votes forward. “Just wanting to vote for the vote leaders” isn’t town play.
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Feb 5, 2018 23:17
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Natural 20 posted:See the problem with saying this is that now Pod knows it's just pressure. well it's not even pressure if I can't get anyone else to bloody vote with me :/ But yeah I'm feeling real uneasy about Pod and Gaspy being scum backing each other up right now. That push for "NGO having the same play as TQ" sounds completely fake from Gaspy, there is nothing there to actually draw any similarities like that.
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Feb 5, 2018 23:18
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Asphyxious posted:Piggybacking. Not being interested in the cases/how people are posting, but being super enthusiastic to drive votes forward. “Just wanting to vote for the vote leaders” isn’t town play. hmmmmmm, I dont know, "same style of play" didn't really sound right when TQ has been posting way more than NGO, with quite varying levels of seriousness
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Feb 5, 2018 23:20
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Are you feeling alright? They’re doing the same stuff, NGO with intent, TQ with “joke votes”. Playing follow the leader in a way that diminishes all accountability. Also to get a bit meta here, if I was scum I wouldn’t be standing up for pod. If he took any heat I’d either avoid him or (infinitely more likely) bus him hard for cred 
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Feb 5, 2018 23:24
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Bifauxnen posted:hmmmmmm, I dont know, "same style of play" didn't really sound right when TQ has been posting way more than NGO, with quite varying levels of seriousness NGO literally has six posts, only two of them actually related to the game being played wherein he says, paraphrasing "who should I vote for" and "looking forward to voting for tobbs and gnawed" Not sure I buy gaspys reasoning here that TQ and NGO have the same style of play because TQ is interacting and discussing, even if his tone is off to me, whereas NGO strikes me as utterly disinterested in the game entirely.
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Feb 5, 2018 23:24
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Yeah uh, what? I mean I guess I've been doing mostly commenting on what other people have said or cased, but it's been with original points others hadn't made yet.
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Feb 5, 2018 23:28
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Asphyxious posted:Are you feeling alright? They’re doing the same stuff, NGO with intent, TQ with “joke votes”. Playing follow the leader in a way that diminishes all accountability. NGO "with intent", oh ok, that sounds like a rather different style of play though, especially from someone who likes to analyse the language people use, and NGO has barely given us any. I think you overreached and need to retcon here.
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Feb 5, 2018 23:29
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and that "are you feeling all right" is pretty funny too - WHAT?! How could you possibly not see how this person with almost no posts at all has the same internal mental intent as this person with a whole bunch of different dodgy posts, how could you not POSSIBLY get that that was what I meant?! 
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Feb 5, 2018 23:31
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i still think pod is the smart vote here, but i'm willing to switch to NGO to ensure a lurker lynch either way is fine with me
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Feb 5, 2018 23:31
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Bifauxnen posted:NGO "with intent", oh ok, that sounds like a rather different style of play though, especially from someone who likes to analyse the language people use, and NGO has barely given us any. I think you overreached and need to retcon here. No I think people need to stop over extrapolating “same style of play” to weird hyper-literal conclusions. It’s a comment on one aspect of their gameplay, the motive. Pretending I was claiming they were identical is loving dumb. If they had that strong a similarity I’d be calling it out a gently caress of a lot harder.
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Feb 5, 2018 23:33
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Gaspy from a quick scan I don’t think NGO has a single non-joke post in this entire game, what intent are you even talking about
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gently caress it, the more I look at NGO the less I like him 6 posts in 3 days is loving garbage play ##vote ngo
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Asphyxious posted:No I think people need to stop over extrapolating “same style of play” to weird hyper-literal conclusions. It’s a comment on one aspect of their gameplay, the motive. Pretending I was claiming they were identical is loving dumb. If they had that strong a similarity I’d be calling it out a gently caress of a lot harder. even if they do have the exact same motives and intentions, doing so through lurking like hell and doing so while giving us actual posts to go on is still a very big difference in playing style. Even if you dont agree for some reason that it's a relevant difference, it's kind of silly for you to act like it's some totally unthinkable way to react to your post.
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Bifauxnen posted:even if they do have the exact same motives and intentions, doing so through lurking like hell and doing so while giving us actual posts to go on is still a very big difference in playing style. Even if you dont agree for some reason that it's a relevant difference, it's kind of silly for you to act like it's some totally unthinkable way to react to your post. Okay Bif you seem to get Gaspy, how is he reading any motives at all into NGO making 6 fluffposts What am I missing here
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Feb 5, 2018 23:38
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GeneX posted:Okay Bif you seem to get Gaspy, how is he reading any motives at all into NGO making 6 fluffposts Do you mean tithin?
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Feb 5, 2018 23:39
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GeneX posted:Okay Bif you seem to get Gaspy, how is he reading any motives at all into NGO making 6 fluffposts you're missing nothing, I think he's being scummy
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My work schedule got messed up, I had to actually show up in the am my time, sneaking a post out on the line. I'll be off at least an hour before deadline, hopefully two though, so it isn't all bad. I would be happy with an ngo lurker vote, am still pretty suspicious of pod. GeneX posted:Okay Bif you seem to get Gaspy, how is he reading any motives at all into NGO making 6 fluffposts I am here myself
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Feb 5, 2018 23:40
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I’d vote gaspy for that. I don’t like day 1 lurker lynches
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Feb 5, 2018 23:43
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Tobbs Gnawed posted:Do you mean tithin? No I dislike tithin for different reasons*, I mean Gaspy going on about motives and intent while the only intent I can think of for NGO is a completely generic, mafia 101 “why might a player lurk and fluffpost” seminar that says nothing about alignment Bifauxnen posted:you're missing nothing, I think he's being scummy Oh okay cool * this post in particular, an argument against any voting or casing at all on D1, being argued at a time when there was a grand total of 1 real vote on the lynch leader tithin posted:seriously folks, day 1, if you think "I'VE GOT SOMETHING" you're probably loving wrong because it's day one and the odds of dunking a scum on day one is slim to gently caress all
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Feb 5, 2018 23:45
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Your Personal Muse posted:I’d vote gaspy for that. I don’t like day 1 lurker lynches the problem though, is you never lunch Gaspy D1. I do like D1 lurker lunches. ##vote NGO just keep it on the record that Gaspy deserves some major scrutiny, and I am not too impressed with Pod's play either
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Feb 5, 2018 23:47
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GeneX posted:
Hm, I forgot about that one tithin post. That I see as a better reason to vote him, yeah. But would still rather vote NGO.
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Feb 5, 2018 23:48
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GeneX posted:No I dislike tithin for different reasons*, I mean Gaspy going on about motives and intent while the only intent I can think of for NGO is a completely generic, mafia 101 “why might a player lurk and fluffpost” seminar that says nothing about alignment Bear in mind it was written at 837am, while on a commute from a poo poo nights sleep, so it's worded poorly and crankily my general philosophy for day 1 has always been that data points are non-existant*, so it is difficult to make an informed choice - which is why the day needs to be stretched as long as possible for peoples opinions and poo poo to get out there into the game, that becomes a data point later in the game It's poorly phrased, but that's what I'm putting out there, I'm absolutely not saying DON'T VOTE, DON'T CASE, JUST FREEZE IN PLACE SOLID FOR 3 DAYS. *this is obviously excluding games with an active n0, which ocassionally occur.
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Feb 5, 2018 23:51
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but man, if Gaspy wasn't worth keeping around longer to bus all his scumbros I'd totally wanna go for it for this post:Asphyxious posted:No I think people need to stop over extrapolating “same style of play” to weird hyper-literal conclusions. It’s a comment on one aspect of their gameplay, the motive. Pretending I was claiming they were identical is loving dumb. If they had that strong a similarity I’d be calling it out a gently caress of a lot harder. lol not just literal, but HYPER literal! Interpreting "same style of play" to mean "posting in a similar way, in this game which is played by posting" is just that far beyond reason!!
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tithin posted:Bear in mind it was written at 837am, while on a commute from a poo poo nights sleep, so it's worded poorly and crankily Maf edit, it was posted on sunday morning, so no commute (that was yesterday). same poo poo though, I was tired and cranky, and worded my statement poorly.
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Feb 5, 2018 23:55
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Bifauxnen posted:but man, if Gaspy wasn't worth keeping around longer to bus all his scumbros I'd totally wanna go for it for this post: I agree with you here. I really don't see how you get any motive/style of play at all out of NGO's posts, and the further explanations don't really follow for me.
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Feb 6, 2018 00:02
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You aren’t the boss of me anymore Bif
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Feb 6, 2018 00:04
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##vote NGO since the vote has shifted so much, this seems like my favorite option for a lunch today, and a second dead lurker might get the remainder to start participating
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Votecount for Day 1  NevergirlsOFFICIAL (5): Truth Quark, b-minus1, tithin, Bifauxnen, Juchero Tobbs Gnawed (3): Your Personal Muse, flerp, Moatillata, Truth Quark, tithin (3): King Burgundy, Tobbs Gnawed, Asiina, Truth Quark (2): Anomalous Amalgam, Bifauxnen, Asphyxious, Bifauxnen (1): Truth Quark, IllegallySober, Little Mac, Podima (1): GeneX, flerp (1): Dick Bastardly Mithross (0): Bifauxnen, King Burgundy (0): Bifauxnen, Your Personal Muse (0): Tobbs Gnawed, Asphyxious (0): GulagDolls, Truth Quark, Moatillata (0): Tobbs Gnawed, Not Voting (8): Hal Incandenza, IllegallySober, Mithross, Moatillata, Natural 20, NevergirlsOFFICIAL, Podima, Tired MoritzWith 24 alive, it's 13 votes to execute. The current deadline is February 05th, 2018 at 11:30 p.m. EST -- that's in about 5 hours, 20 minutes.
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Feb 6, 2018 00:09
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I'm not opposed to a lurker lunch. ##vote NGO
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Feb 6, 2018 00:13
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No, me neither. I'm unsure if we're going to get very much out of the next few hours, but: ##vote NGO If something comes up that's compelling I'll make sure I have a look.
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this D1's been productive enough, imo. And yeah, I like the point that killing TWO lurkers today should help light a fire under people's rear end
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Phone posting I think bifs confidence in the gaspy/pod stuff rings as really false to me. Either they're coasting on said confidence and lying or so full of false bravado that other scum are latching on. After spending a game with bif making bad judgement calls I'm wary of their stuff being taken as gospel I'll vote ngo but closer to deadline. Someone tell me why bif's cases are remotely trustworthy
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Little Mac posted:Phone posting Might help if you read and took your own conclusions from their posts, but it boils down to, paraphrasing 1/ Gaspy said TQ and NGO had similar posting styles 2/ Bif asked how, given TQ was posting, and NGO wasn't 3/ Gaspy said that NGO was lurking "with intent" and piggybacking, with TQ piggybacking 4/ Bif points out that by his own definition, they don't have similar posting styles, and she's pinged that as scummy.
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Little Mac posted:After spending a game with bif making bad judgement calls I'm wary of their stuff being taken as gospel you sit through nearly a solid month of people doing poo poo like not healing the one super hurt person you said to heal, or Infinitum, just Infinitum, and then get back to me about making bad judgement calls fuckwad
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Bifauxnen posted:you sit through nearly a solid month of people doing poo poo like not healing the one super hurt person you said to heal, or Infinitum, just Infinitum, and then get back to me about making bad judgement calls fuckwad Now who exactly drafted Infi?
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Like all of this is on the last two pages, so we're not talking a 10 page deep dive here or nothing
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Natural 20 posted:Now who exactly drafted Infi? 
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Natural 20 posted:Now who exactly drafted Infi? Running the official Auspol thread was part of the responsibility I figured I was taking on You were my first choice of the whole game btw so I'd watch you dont shoot yourself in the foot here 
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