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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:Lol I'm trying to sell my old desktop since I don't think use it really; i7-4790k, 16gb ram, case, 600w sfx psu, 250gb 850 Evo and some guy is positively apoplexic that I'm not selling it to him for 350 bucks... Hold out lol, that's loving worth more than 350
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4790k $200 DDR3 $100 Rando case/psu/ssd $100 $350 isn’t unreasonable 
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That SFX 600W PSU isn't cheap, assuming it's the Corsair one.
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:Yeah, it's a full complete system; 500 was my asking price lmao What's the case?
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BIG HEADLINE posted:That SFX 600W PSU isn't cheap, assuming it's the Corsair one. Yeah exactly that. The case is that Corsair mini it one that's gigantic but has a horizontal orientation and plenty of aio mount points. The way I see it is: I7 - 200 Mobo - 100 Ram - 100 SSD - 50 Case - 50 PSU - 75 So closer to 600, but meh. If I parted it out completely I could easily get 250 for the CPU and over 200 for the Mobo at least
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Apple has "gently caress you" money, but they'd have to invest about *half* of it to set up their own fab(s). It'd be one hell of an investment, and the only way it'd be profitable is if they became another TSMC and subcontracted them out or made DRAM/NAND for the general market. I can see their angle - right now whenever you buy an iPhone or Apple desktop or laptop, Samsung gets paid - it'd stand to reason they'd like to change that.
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:If I parted it out completely I could easily get 250 for the CPU and over 200 for the Mobo at least You're probably best parting it out honestly. I never really had any luck buying or selling used desktops.
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Apr 5, 2018 03:24
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Tell him you're parting it out, and link him to the individual listings for the components, that will cost him more. Please post his reaction.
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Apr 5, 2018 10:10
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:Yeah exactly that. The case is that Corsair mini it one that's gigantic but has a horizontal orientation and plenty of aio mount points. The way I see it is: I'd see it more like this. That mobo is the most depreciated part, compared to features now available.
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Apr 5, 2018 12:39
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craig588 posted:350 is on the low end, and it's not worth it if the guy is weird. I'd start at 500, assuming there's a motherboard included too. If you're not including a motherboard then 350 is reasonable because you can't see it all work beforehand. Watermelon Daiquiri posted:Yeah, it's a full complete system; 500 was my asking price lmao incoherent posted:That setup is easily a 2-3 video card lifecycle. Motherboard included sure, I'm not loving telepathic.
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I can see parting it out will leave the case + psu unbought, unless it's cheap as hell tbh.
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If it's mini-itx mobo + case they are more valuable than (m)atx
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I'm just going off of eBay sold listings
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:I can see parting it out will leave the case + psu unbought, unless it's cheap as hell tbh. eh they'll sell, but you're right probably not for much. likely to get a dece amount for the motherboard (at least from my experience), it's a component that is always the first thing that always seems to loving break a few years in, then people are left with a computer that has perfectly good specs but for which they have to hunt on ebay for a replacement mainboard since no one makes one with that socket anymore. it's almost as if intel changing the socket every loving generation is actually really wasteful it's a weird situation tbf - reminds me of trying to buy a wiimote and finding that it's oftentimes cheaper to just buy a wii, with a wiimote, on ebay since no one actually wants the console itself to the point where it's actually a net negative value will add my voice to the chorus screaming 'part it out' also. i'm always tempted to just sell the whole system because i think it'll be less work, but it's actually easier just to pack and ship smaller parts individually than worrying about whether this heavy metal box with valuable electronics inside is going to get hosed up by the postman. depending on where you live you could probably just collection-only the case since you're prob not going to get much money for it anyway Generic Monk fucked around with this message at 15:28 on Apr 6, 2018 |
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mewse posted:If it's mini-itx mobo + case they are more valuable than (m)atx Is that really true? I have a mini-itx desktop (i5 4690k and a mobo that pairs with the 'k' variant) that I'm pretty sure the GPU is dead because it runs fine on the integrated GPU but if I plug a monitor into the GTX 970 the computer just keeps crashing and rebooting. I don't really have much use for a desktop anymore but I also thought that the cpu being like 4 generations old would be worthless by now.
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Boris Galerkin posted:Is that really true? I have a mini-itx desktop (i5 4690k and a mobo that pairs with the 'k' variant) that I'm pretty sure the GPU is dead because it runs fine on the integrated GPU but if I plug a monitor into the GTX 970 the computer just keeps crashing and rebooting. I don't really have much use for a desktop anymore but I also thought that the cpu being like 4 generations old would be worthless by now. if the socket is more than a few generations old it's really loving difficult to find a replacement ITX motherboard tbf - probably a combination of ITX naturally being less popular then than it is now so fewer were made, and also the cases being more likely to be inadequately cooled so they break sooner (not to mention the likelihood of less robust circuitry, i know it's way more difficult to find an itx motherboard with a decent vrm solution as opposed to atx). pure conjecture ofc but they are kind of difficult to find and hence fetch a dece price. cases probably less so but you are dealing with fewer itx cases being on the market still, so they might deprecate less idk
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There is a vast ocean of garbage-tier ATX and mATX boards that provide a relief valve for people looking for cheap parts and drive a thriving market in cases/PSUs/etc. In contrast, mITX builds have substantially smaller sales volume, and often have compatibility issues that necessitate specific combinations of parts (cooler height, SFX or short PSUs, etc).
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The better z68 and z77 boards still sell for $$ on Ebay. Also 2600K and 3770K chips still fetch ~$120-130, which is crazy. You can also convince people that it's a good choice to go with these used parts by emphasizing just how (relatively) cheap used DDR3 is versus new DDR4.
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bobfather posted:The better z68 and z77 boards still sell for $$ on Ebay. Also 2600K and 3770K chips still fetch ~$120-130, which is crazy. I put my old 2500K on eBay not long ago and ended up getting £96/$135 for it 
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bobfather posted:The better z68 and z77 boards still sell for $$ on Ebay. Also 2600K and 3770K chips still fetch ~$120-130, which is crazy. Yeah, I sometimes wonder how much I could still sell my system for, especially considering the guaranteed OC from this combo of parts. Insane to me that a desktop system from 2011 is still performant today for everything I need. 2600K + P8P67 PRO + 32GB RAM.
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Apr 6, 2018 17:11
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Oh dear, new rumors about Intel dGPUs.
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Boris Galerkin posted:Is that really true? I have a mini-itx desktop (i5 4690k and a mobo that pairs with the 'k' variant) that I'm pretty sure the GPU is dead because it runs fine on the integrated GPU but if I plug a monitor into the GTX 970 the computer just keeps crashing and rebooting. I don't really have much use for a desktop anymore but I also thought that the cpu being like 4 generations old would be worthless by now. Sounds like a power supply problem but yeah your rig is likely more valuable because it's itx
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mewse posted:Sounds like a power supply problem but yeah your rig is likely more valuable because it's itx Is there a way to diagnose that, and if not is it harmful to keep using the psu? I can't recall the psu I have but I remember shelling out for a fully modular gold+ power supply.
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Boris Galerkin posted:Is there a way to diagnose that, and if not is it harmful to keep using the psu? I can't recall the psu I have but I remember shelling out for a fully modular gold+ power supply. Do you remember how many watts?
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mewse posted:Do you remember how many watts? 550W That product page does say 7 year warranty though, so that’s something I can look into.
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I think I ran an equivalent i5 + 970 on that wattage for a year or two.. you might be right that it's your video card but it would be worth testing the system with a 600W or higher (just plug it into the headers while resting outside the case). Or bring the video card to a repair shop and ask them if they'll test whether it's dead. The fee should be minimal and a 970 is still worth $$$$ with the graphics card market all hosed up by crypto
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bobfather posted:The better z68 and z77 boards still sell for $$ on Ebay. Also 2600K and 3770K chips still fetch ~$120-130, which is crazy. With z77 you can bios hack m2 support as well, but there's no real point because SATA ssds are pretty much identical in real world performance and cost way less. Khorne fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Apr 6, 2018 |
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I bought a NVME drive because I had to know, but now that I know I'd get a SATA drive for a normal desktop. 3.5GB/s transfers are fun to benchmark, but there's virtually no difference in 500MB/s SATA transfers for a computer just playing games.
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Generic Monk posted:if the socket is more than a few generations old it's really loving difficult to find a replacement ITX motherboard tbf It's true. I bought a replacement board for my 6600k, and it was cheaper to get ATX and an ATX case then a z170 itx board on its own.
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craig588 posted:I bought a NVME drive because I had to know, but now that I know I'd get a SATA drive for a normal desktop. 3.5GB/s transfers are fun to benchmark, but there's virtually no difference in 500MB/s SATA transfers for a computer just playing games. Thanks man, you just saved me some hard-earned money.
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Sell me your computer, I'll give you butt coin 
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Combat Pretzel posted:Oh dear, new rumors about Intel dGPUs. Intel and AMD soc gpus? Or...?
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Raja Whatshisname, now obviously at Intel, seems to have a plan to release discrete gaming GPUs. By 2020, anyway. Wccftech and so on, but everyone's yapping the same thing. https://wccftech.com/intel-gpu-arctic-sound-gaming-variant/ Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Apr 7, 2018 |
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If Intel delivers 8-cores that can hit 5+ GHz this year I'm thinking pretty seriously about a high-tier Z390 board to replace my 5820K.
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Ya, it could be quite a monster and an ideal target to direct die cool.
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:Ya, it could be quite a monster and an ideal target to direct die cool. There are already die shims that allow you to do this with a regular AIO waterblock BTW. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Z97-XPOWER-AC-CPU-Open-Cover-Protector-Delid-Die-Guard-For-LGA115X-Series-CPU/32621328449.html I suppose I might not even be interested without a delidded processor, tbh. The heat off that is going to be intense with Intel's toothpaste. gently caress them for not going with solder here. If they don't have the performance, it's not even worth it.
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Paul MaudDib posted:If Intel delivers 8-cores that can hit 5+ GHz this year I'm thinking pretty seriously about a high-tier Z390 board to replace my 5820K.
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Paul MaudDib posted:If Intel delivers 8-cores that can hit 5+ GHz this year I'm thinking pretty seriously about a high-tier Z390 board to replace my 5820K. 8 @ 4.5+ is what I’ve been holding out for. C’mon already.
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Dadbod Apocalypse posted:8 @ 4.5+ is what I’ve been holding out for. C’mon already. If so, then Skylake-X is for you!
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