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xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Well Antelope Canyon is unique in the sense that it's limited access that requires a tour guide. The photography specific ones will have the guides point out the popular shots and shoo everyone away so you can get your instagram shot.

When I did the Moulton barn several years ago everyone was pretty chill, but it's a pretty wide open spot so no one was getting their shots ruined. Lots of nerds talking about lens specs and bitching about the fire smoke blanketing the valley.

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evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Helen Highwater posted:

I was in Prague a while ago and the Charles Bridge was a sea of tripods at 7am. I can't imagine how people get shots of areas like Antelope Canyon or Lake Wanaka without getting a billion bits of random photo hardware in the frame.
When I shot roman ruins in marocco it was p easy to just setup and take shots every 5 seconds then remove the people programmatically.

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)
I guess my point was this Zuckerberg shot was just utilitarian workaday picture taking. It's not like these people were snapping their shots of him for personal enjoyment.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

evil_bunnY posted:

When I shot roman ruins in marocco it was p easy to just setup and take shots every 5 seconds then remove the people programmatically.

I'd like to see that in action, if you don't mind.

Adobe's video demo looks impressive, but those things always do.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

spog posted:

I'd like to see that in action, if you don't mind.

Adobe's video demo looks impressive, but those things always do.
It worked p much as advertised, with the caveat that you will never know for sure you've got 100% coverage until you're processing. You also can't have "active" pixels in the zones you're aiming to clean up without adding lots and hand work.

rio
Mar 20, 2008

xzzy posted:

And here I thought perfect landscape vantages were crowded.

https://i.imgur.com/7VZW3hX.gifv

Wow, that is disturbing on many levels. And one of them is how many times his soul was stolen through a camera, leaving him the shell of a person that he is now.

Kenny Logins
Jan 11, 2011

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A WHITE WHALE INTO THE PEQUOD. IT'S HELL'S HEART AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I STRIKE AT THEE ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, ISHMAEL.

rio posted:

Wow, that is disturbing on many levels. And one of them is how many times his soul was stolen through a camera, leaving him the shell of a person that he is now.
Can't lose what you never had.

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)
You see how he’s looking around at the photographers there? He’s actually hoping for some flashes to go off so that he can get a quick energy bump from via photovoltaic mini-arrays.

underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
i like the dude at the front slowly raising what looks like a go pro

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Uh.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2018/04/20/smugmug-buys-flickr-verizon-oath/537377002/

Upside: Verizon doesn't own it.

Downside: smugmug gonna be monetizing the poo poo out of this.

InternetJunky
May 25, 2002

I've had my stuff hosted on smugmug for ages now and had no idea they were a company in a position to buy out flickr.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

smugmug has always been interesting to me but I've never dug into them because they feel like a walled garden. If you know someone on the site and visit their page directly or there's a specific keyword you're after it's great, but they seem to have no concept of "trending" or other social features.

huhu
Feb 24, 2006

quote:

We’re excited to announce that Flickr has agreed to be acquired by SmugMug, the photography platform dedicated to visual storytellers.
SmugMug has a long history of empowering people who love photography and who want to improve their craft, making them a perfect fit for Flickr and our creative community. With SmugMug, we’ll continue to focus on you, the Flickr members who inspire us all with your work.

Nothing will change immediately with regard to your Flickr account. You will still access Flickr with your current login credentials and you will have the same Flickr experience as you do now. We will continue to work to make your Flickr experience even better.

We think you are going to love Flickr under SmugMug ownership, but you can choose to not have your Flickr account and data transferred to SmugMug until May 25, 2018. If you want to keep your Flickr account and data from being transferred, you must go to your Flickr account to download the photos and videos you want to keep, then delete your account from your Account Settings by May 25, 2018.

If you do not delete your account by May 25, 2018, your Flickr account and data will transfer to SmugMug and will be governed by SmugMug’s Terms and Privacy Policy.

Read more detailed FAQs about this transition on the Flickr Blog.

We’re happy that Flickr is your home for photography and we look forward to the next chapter in our adventure together as we join the SmugMug family.

Thanks,
The Flickr Team

Anyone planning to delete all their stuff instead of moving it over?

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Not enough detail what's going on. Does this mean they bought flickr just for the user accounts and are killing it off, putting everyone under the smugmug interface? Or are they merging the flickr account database into smugmug servers and leaving the flickr web interface up, just under smugmug rules?

If it's the first option, :laffo:. What a way for flickr to die. Old school flickr folks are gonna be furious.

I mean, I got no issues with smugmug. But like I said above their website is kinda clunky and in no way feature complete with what flickr offers.

Pablo Bluth
Sep 7, 2007

I've made a huge mistake.
If you read the linked news article it says they will 'maintain Flickr as a standalone community of amateur and professional photographers' but that they don't really know their plans.

I suspect it wasn't that expensive and Verizon just wanted it off the books allowing Smugmug have taken a punt without having too much of a plan or pressure to make large short term profit. i will say that I think Smugmug have more riding on not pissing off the photographic community in a way that Yahoo or Verizon didn't need to worry about. My main issue is that when I tried a free trial on their website I found it a bit clunky; all the right ideas in terms of modern web functionality but without a high quality control on the coding.

Personally in the last 12 months I've kind of finally completely my drift away from flickr. My attention these days is with Instragram, primarily because it's where I can follow world-class tier wildlife photographers that you won't find on flickr.

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
Eh, if nothing else this should mean that I no longer have to deal with a bullshit "Yahoo Account".

I don't want to use Instagram as I can't stand mobile interfaces for photo stuff, and they're never going to be focused on non-mobile stuff.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Hey that monkey photograph guy won his case and they gave PETA a right earful, PETA remain unrepentant. https://petapixel.com/2018/04/24/photographer-wins-monkey-selfie-copyright-case-court-slams-peta/

bobmarleysghost
Mar 7, 2006



"you must go to your Flickr account to download the photos and videos you want to keep, "

How? Is there a bulk download option?

PREYING MANTITS
Mar 13, 2003

and that's how you get ants.

bobmarleysghost posted:

"you must go to your Flickr account to download the photos and videos you want to keep, "

How? Is there a bulk download option?

The only option I know of isn't exactly painless. If you go to "You" next to the flickr logo then "Camera Roll" which takes you to a page where you can select multiple images by clicking on them and an option to download them comes up at the bottom. They create a zip file and email you a link to download it. Not sure if there's a size limit or anything like that, but given how clunky it feels I wouldn't be surprised.

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib
If I wanted to bail out of Flickr like that, I assume it would take days. I have close to 11 000 photos on my Flickr.
I have a kind of reverse-backup, though. Every photo I've uploaded to Flickr is also on my harddrive (most of them in their original RAW form; some were shot as JPGs), and in my Lightroom catalogues and ready to be re-exported at any time. So if I bailed it would mostly be a matter of hitting delete and (metaphorically) walking away. But I would lose that nice cloud backup that my Flickr account represents.

I don't find Flickr's interface particularly easy or smooth. I have yet to find any software that has a way to deal with thousands of files in a way that is qualitatively different from how it handles a dozen files. Lightroom's catalogue system is pretty good, there are tools built in that work well at moving around and keeping track of hundreds of pictures at a time, but these tools appear to have been built with manipulations of 10 or fewer pictures at a time in mind. Flickr's editing and file-organisation functions are severly hampered by how drat long it takes for things to load, and for changes to take effect. This is partly an internet bandwidth issue, but here at work - a major Canadian university - I've got a 100mb/s pipe to my desk and Flickr still chokes on basic tasks like adding 20 or 30 pictures to an album.
I've never used Smugmug, I have no idea how it handles such things.

To be fair, I don't actually have a clear idea in my head of what a dedicated mass-file-handling software program would look like. I just get frustrated by the way most programs I have used start to fall down when I ask them to do something to several hundred photos.

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)
Similar with me. Aside from the first few pictures I took, everything I give a rip about is also in Lightroom.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

It's hard to compare what LR does with anything else as it's a really good digital asset manager. To get anything better puts you into the class of enterprise software and huge price tags. We're getting it for a steal.

Plug "digital asset management" into google and try to find something better, have fun. :angel:

Both flickr's and smugmug's api are pretty feature complete, if you're programming minded it shouldn't be super difficult to write a script to handle exporting all your assets from either site (or uploading to them, but there's already LR plugins for that so unless you got exotic needs it's probably not necessary).

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

xzzy posted:

Plug "digital asset management" into google and try to find something better, have fun. :angel:

The municipality I work for has been looking into digitizing all of our old legacy documents and has been pricing stuff like this out. I know exactly what you mean. :homebrew:

rio
Mar 20, 2008

Are people backing up their flickr photos because they don’t want to use the site under smugmug for some reason or just to bail out for another reason? I have a lot of old photos up there and would download them if I had to but I they are still accessible I’ll just leave them.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

There's a deadline of May 18th to get your flickr photos compliant with the smugmug content policy. Some people don't like being told what to do, so I guess they want to vacate flickr before that happens.

smugmug has a no nudity policy so I don't think any goons have anything to worry about but vast swaths of flickr's fetish folks are probably making GBS threads their collective pants.

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib
/\/\/\ yeah the "don't tell me what to do!" thing is probably the biggest reason for the yelling and wailing and gnashing of teeth.

I'm sure there are a few hundred or a few thousand Flickr-users who reacted to the Smugmug news with panic and frothing rage at all things corporate / anything other than their prefered brand (yes, there must be Verizon fanboys out there. There simply has to be.).

But I'm not bailing and the small amount I've read about this over the past couple of days hasn't shown me that many people are bailing. Lots of people are talking about it, mainly as an academic exercise like "How would I do this thing I had not previously thought about doing?". I'm personally not expecting big changes and not planning to get out of Flickr or do anything about this at all, really.

Regarding adult content:

"This Petapixel Article posted:

Since Flickr is one of the few sites on the web that allows moderated adult content, I did wonder how SmugMug would treat that — at least per the current TOS, it looks like that is going to be handled as it always has been at Flickr. Make sure you moderate your adult content, keeping it away from the kids, and it’s allowed.

Cassius Belli
May 22, 2010

horny is prohibited

xzzy posted:

There's a deadline of May 18th to get your flickr photos compliant with the smugmug content policy. Some people don't like being told what to do, so I guess they want to vacate flickr before that happens.

smugmug has a no nudity policy so I don't think any goons have anything to worry about but vast swaths of flickr's fetish folks are probably making GBS threads their collective pants.

My impression was that they planned to leave it alone for the foreseeable future.

"Smugmug Flickr Terms and Conditions posted:

You are solely responsible for the User Content that you post or transmit using the Services and you agree not to post, transmit or otherwise publish through the Services any of the following:

<...>
* User Content that is obscene, pornographic, indecent, lewd, sexually suggestive, including without limitation photos, videos or other User Content containing nudity, unless you have restricted access to such User Content with an appropriate content filter setting that will restrict viewing by minors;
<...>

"Glamour shootout" groups are safe for now.

President Beep
Apr 30, 2009





i have to have a car because otherwise i cant drive around the country solving mysteries while being doggedly pursued by federal marshals for a crime i did not commit (9/11)

xzzy posted:

smugmug has a no nudity policy so I don't think any goons have anything to worry about but vast swaths of flickr's fetish folks are probably making GBS threads their collective pants.

If ever enforced on flickr there'd be a net benefit for sure.

Helen Highwater
Feb 19, 2014

And furthermore
Grimey Drawer

xzzy posted:

vast swaths of flickr's fetish folks are probably making GBS threads their collective pants.
And then photographing it. And then posting it to Flickr the street thread.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I have six days in Iceland this summer and am trying to plot out what I want to see, and at this point I think I would like to go the rest of my life and not see another picture of Kirkjufell, Vestrahorn, and that loving plane on a beach.

torgeaux
Dec 31, 2004
I serve...

xzzy posted:

I have six days in Iceland this summer and am trying to plot out what I want to see, and at this point I think I would like to go the rest of my life and not see another picture of Kirkjufell, Vestrahorn, and that loving plane on a beach.

Isnt poopinmymouth in iceland?

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib
Spend the entire time at Thingvallavatn. Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%9Eingvallavatn

It's a lake in the crevice of the mid-Atlantic ridge. Freshwater in the spine of the world. Walk all the way around it, take a few pictures.

unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

xzzy posted:

I have six days in Iceland this summer and am trying to plot out what I want to see, and at this point I think I would like to go the rest of my life and not see another picture of Kirkjufell, Vestrahorn, and that loving plane on a beach.

Didn't they close the road to that plane after a group of idiot children had a party in it ?

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Quick google says the plane is on private land and the owner got mad about vehicles ripping up their land so they made it hiking only. They seem to close stuff all the time as tourists gently caress things up, like from trampling plants or erosion type issues.

Fuckin tourists, man.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

xzzy posted:

Quick google says the plane is on private land and the owner got mad about vehicles ripping up their land so they made it hiking only. They seem to close stuff all the time as tourists gently caress things up, like from trampling plants or erosion type issues.

Fuckin tourists, man.

It's not even a plane, it's just a piece of fuselage.

lampey
Mar 27, 2012

xzzy posted:

I have six days in Iceland this summer and am trying to plot out what I want to see, and at this point I think I would like to go the rest of my life and not see another picture of Kirkjufell, Vestrahorn, and that loving plane on a beach.

Godafoss is unreal and worth driving to the north just to see. Nothing else compares, it was the highlight of the trip. You can get right up on it, no barriers to get in the way of pictures. The glacier lagoon was very impressive in March but I'm not sure how it would be in summer. The view from dyrholaey lighthouse is worth the drive.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Yep, wife and I settled on 1 night in the westfjords and 1 night in Akureyri. So Godafoss is in the cards, if I'm lucky with a break in the clouds the sun will light it real nice at sunrise.

Had to cut the south coast due to time (excepting a day trip to Vik), made wife promise we can go back someday to see the lagoon. Still not sure it's the right decision, my list of POI's looks like someone threw confetti on a map, but it seems like the type of place where a month isn't enough time for it all so something's gotta give somewhere.

Helen Highwater
Feb 19, 2014

And furthermore
Grimey Drawer
So the end result of the Smugmug/Flickr thing is that Flickr and Smugmug will remain different brands. Smugmug will keep their no porn/weird stuff rule and Flickr will allow it as long as it's appropriately flagged and restricted.

quote:

You are solely responsible for the User Content that you post or transmit using the Services and you agree not to post, transmit or otherwise publish through the Services any of the following:

[...]
User Content that is obscene, pornographic, indecent, lewd, sexually suggestive, including without limitation photos, videos or other User Content containing nudity, unless you have restricted access to such User Content with an appropriate content filter setting that will restrict viewing by minors;

Good news for the HDR pictures of sexy ladies clinging to roof gables crew!

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


Always make sure you have your cards, kids!

quote:

Astronaut: “Hey, uh, Houston, I gotta ask a question about the GoPro real quick.”
Houston: “I’m all ears. Go ahead.”
Astronaut: “Pushing the button, I see a ‘No SD’. Do I need that to record? And if it’s recording, is there supposed to be a red light on?”
*A long silence ensues*
Houston: “I’m told that if it has the card in it, it should have a red light if it’s recording.”
Astronaut: “And if it says ‘No SD,’ what does that mean?”
Houston: “I think that means no card. We’re checking though, hang on.”
Astronaut: “Well, let’s just forget it for now. I’ll get it later. Let’s just not worry about it.”

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rio
Mar 20, 2008


Oh my god. At least in his defense, if he didn’t know what that meant then he is probably clueless about needing an SD card to begin with so it isn’t like one of us driving a couple hours to shoot, arriving and realizing that the one SD card we owned was at home.

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