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##Vote: mr F this is way more convoluted than it should be
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I like the alias "Mr Fuckman" personally
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May 17, 2018 04:44
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I dont have a vig. ##vote dick
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May 17, 2018 04:55
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oooooooooooooo you lied, for shame
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May 17, 2018 04:56
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Dick Bastardly posted:oooooooooooooo (I always lie)
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May 17, 2018 04:57
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I will say I'm not feeling Mr F for scum. fwiw
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May 17, 2018 04:57
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EXCEPT, about Dick bastardly and one of keane or alasdair (or possibly both) being scum.
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May 17, 2018 04:57
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Mr. F! posted:(I always lie) are you, or are you not scum this game?
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May 17, 2018 04:58
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Mr. F! posted:EXCEPT, Are you saying you know I'm scum 100%?
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May 17, 2018 04:58
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Dick Bastardly posted:are you, or are you not scum this game? I am NOT scum.
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May 17, 2018 04:58
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Dick Bastardly posted:Are you saying you know I'm scum 100%? You're my biggest, deepest read.
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May 17, 2018 04:59
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Also its funny that Alasdair "Alasdair Lied, Townies Died" Crawfish is voting me for lying.
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May 17, 2018 04:59
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Mr. F! posted:I am NOT scum. Mr. F! posted:You're my biggest, deepest read. I stand by this: Dick Bastardly posted:I will say I'm not feeling Mr F for scum.
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May 17, 2018 05:00
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I believe you believe I'm scum, but you read town to me. I'm not scum by the way.
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May 17, 2018 05:02
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CCKeane posted:Why are you using a meta argument now when you were dismissing meta defenses of Anon yesterday? What is different? Because the meta argument was written in an incredibly scummy way. Like I pointed out before. It essentially paraphrased to "Hey, Anon fine, people are overreacting, how about we lynch this guy instead?" I was actually a bit unsure about Anon (however, they were an incredibly easy lynch considering their content, which amounted to very little and a "votes on me are bad" defense) before you did something I entirely saw as a scumbuddy deflection off of their teammate. I am entirely aware of the fact that I was one of the early votes too, but I fell for the push on the mislynch However, that brings me to the point, my case. After Anon flipped town, I've been thinking. Scum should have been fine with a lurker lynch, right? Just pick a lurker that isn't scum and push on them. I would not have counted Anon as a lurker. So why Anon? I think it's because scum was trying to protect one of their lurker teammates. Of course, such a mislynch would need to be started by scum. So I dug a little deeper on Slamburger. I am certain he is scum, and here is why: Slamburger posted:The best way to get out of jokephase is to put serious votes on people, like for scummy stuff like equivocating on placing a vote. This is the FIRST kind of any content he posted. Starting the mislynch on Anon. Slamburger posted:Do you even case bro? Immediately after, he puts some shade on Fisk and has a largely contentless defense of me. Slamburger posted:In looking at the other votes on AN and the subsequent discussion, I think Alasdair looks the worst for committing and then easing back into shitposting. I would vote him today. And now he... looks at the AN voters, A VOTE WHICH HE STARTED, and thinks of them as suspicious? What? Also putting even more suspicion on Anon. The above is Slamburgers content for day one. Most of it is contentless, until he starts the push on Anon, a very easy mislynch as we figured out. Anon really did not help themselves due their content and RL interference, as we now know. And what is Slamburger doing now? Slamburger posted:Sal's end of day behavior was scummy. Read all his posts from the last hour, but here are three choice cuts: He's pushing on what he sees as the next easy lynch. There is no remorse or comment on starting the lynch on Anon at all. No, just more shadethrowing on Sal, with an immediate vote. I do not believe Sal is scum, as they are going out of their way to point out I'm a newbie. Sal knows I'm an easy target already, so it does feel townie to me that he does. In addition, their posting is pretty townie as well, such as pointing out the -1 on anon (and also being unsure about the lynch). I do not like the way he's being pushed right now. It's not very different from how Anon got pushed at all. I think what Slam is trying to do here is push his own narrative early. Post on Icephoenix coming soon, but for now I am going to ##vote Slamburger Slamburger is scum, and should be lynched today, in my opinion.
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May 17, 2018 06:08
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Yami Fenrir posted:Because the meta argument was written in an incredibly scummy way. Like I pointed out before. It essentially paraphrased to "Hey, Anon fine, people are overreacting, how about we lynch this guy instead?" I was actually a bit unsure about Anon (however, they were an incredibly easy lynch considering their content, which amounted to very little and a "votes on me are bad" defense) before you did something I entirely saw as a scumbuddy deflection off of their teammate. I am entirely aware of the fact that I was one of the early votes too, but I fell for the push on the mislynch I actually agree with this, and would be willing to vote slamburger.
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May 17, 2018 06:19
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Yami Fenrir posted:Because the meta argument was written in an incredibly scummy way. Like I pointed out before. It essentially paraphrased to "Hey, Anon fine, people are overreacting, how about we lynch this guy instead?" I was actually a bit unsure about Anon (however, they were an incredibly easy lynch considering their content, which amounted to very little and a "votes on me are bad" defense) before you did something I entirely saw as a scumbuddy deflection off of their teammate. I am entirely aware of the fact that I was one of the early votes too, but I fell for the push on the mislynch lmao this is the epic case that we needed to wait all night for
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May 17, 2018 06:19
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can we kill mags he just tried to gently caress with the town by fakeclaiming vig, tia
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May 17, 2018 06:20
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Alasdair Crawfish posted:lmao this is the epic case that we needed to wait all night for It's actually good, and content shouldn't be denounced unless you think its bad content. Care to explain whats bad about it?
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May 17, 2018 06:20
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Now, let me get to Icephoenix. I realized overnight that I was wrong about something, and my case on Icephoenix is not nearly as good as Slamburger, and I am aware of this. Now, why do I think Slamburger pushed on Anon? Because I think Good Sir, who has now been replaced by Icephoenix, was scum. Again, let me come back to the fact that scum could have easily just pushed a lurker lynch. It was around 8 hours before the deadline, and we had no lynch target lined up. In my opinion, that would have meant we lynched a lurker. Which would have been fine for Scum, to simply push on a lurking townie, right? But they chose to instead go after anon, if my theory below is correct (and I think that scum was almost certainly on the vote on Anon). Why? Who would we have lynched, without having a target, if not a lurker like Good Sir/IcePhoenix or Mr. F, who posted a lot now, but only after being called out on lurking and only within like 5 or so hours before the deadline? The thing that throws a wrench in this theory is that IcePhoenix got replaced in a lot earlier than I had remembered, so I am not going to push on them quite yet. However, I absolutely think that scum is to be found within the lurkers. After sleeping on it, I am no longer entirely sure about it being Icephoenix (It's pretty much the same way I thought Keane was scum after he defended anon, a false connection). Sorry for throwing shade your way earlier IcePhoenix, I mostly just wanted to to defend Sal with that post, as I think Slamburger is scum trying to push their own narrative early. I realize that the suspicion I hae on them was based on their predecessor, Good Sir, and my own theory that scum wants to protect a lurker. Like I said, it's not the best case, but I feel like it's something to consider nonetheless. I'll take a look at some other people too lately, especially Hal, who I feel like is trying to lay low, but for now I think we should lunch Slamburger today.
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May 17, 2018 06:23
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Alasdair Crawfish posted:lmao this is the epic case that we needed to wait all night for Honestly? It appeared a bit bigger in my head. Also the main purpose was trying to stop Slamburger from painting Sal in too much of a bad light earlier. I wanted to counter push his narrative. In the meantime, while I'm at work, how about you refute it instead of just being sarcastic about it if you don't like it?
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May 17, 2018 06:25
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Yami Fenrir posted:Honestly? It appeared a bit bigger in my head. Mafia edit
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May 17, 2018 06:25
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scumburger u gon die
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May 17, 2018 06:28
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Yami is obvs Town. I won't vote them, so keep that in mind.
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May 17, 2018 06:29
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b-minus1 posted:scumburger u gon die You say this, and yet you're not voting him
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May 17, 2018 06:29
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You've also never mentioned him before
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May 17, 2018 06:30
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Mr. F! posted:You say this, and yet you're not voting him the day literally just started a few hours ago and some people havent even posted yet. ffs its ok to say youre suspicious of someone without voting them right away
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May 17, 2018 06:33
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b-minus1 posted:the day literally just started a few hours ago and some people havent even posted yet. ffs its ok to say youre suspicious of someone without voting them right away I'd also never seen you voice suspicion of him. And the fact that it's early in the day actually is not a reason not to vote, as votes add pressure which leads to better reactions from the accused. Voting is not something that you are bound to, you can vote and unvote infinity times a day.
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May 17, 2018 06:36
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Mr. F! posted:I'd also never seen you voice suspicion of him. First post after jokephase ended: b-minus1 posted:right now im sus of scumburger and jeddit for the krelltalk and omgus votes.
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May 17, 2018 06:42
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b-minus1 posted:First post after jokephase ended: You didnt mention him again until now.
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May 17, 2018 06:48
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Dick Bastardly posted:I believe you believe I'm scum, but you read town to me. I'm inclined to believe you.
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May 17, 2018 07:59
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Yami Fenrir posted:This is the FIRST kind of any content he posted. Starting the mislynch on Anon. Yeah, I got us out of jokephase and got people to start posting real stuff. You're welcome. quote:And now he... looks at the AN voters, A VOTE WHICH HE STARTED, and thinks of them as suspicious? What? Also putting even more suspicion on Anon. Uh, that's how you read people Day 1. If I vote someone whether its a good vote or a bad vote and then a bunch of people pile on there is information to be gained. I didn't know if Anon was town or scum, but the scum did, and I was attempting to ferret that out. quote:Anon really did not help themselves due their content and RL interference, as we now know. Here is the crux of your issue with my vote, and its Anon's problem not my problem. She disappeared. I would have loved to engage with her more and get her to post some more content to better assess my initial read. But guess what, making a scummy post and then disappearing is scummy (as you admit). It's a decent enough D1 case and I don't feel bad about it. D1 cases are flimsy and its always a crapshoot. I'm not going to apologize or "feel remorse" for a D1 mislynch, like you somehow equate with town behavior. It's not. If I led the town off a cliff in LYLO or got hoodwinked by obvious scum, then yeah I'll feel bad. But not on a D1 mislynch, sorry. quote:He's pushing on what he sees as the next easy lynch. I make reads and case players. You're free to disagree with me or explain why I'm wrong. Characterizing a single post as "pushing an easy lynch" is a bad argument.
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May 17, 2018 11:43
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Hm. I sort of get where you're coming from but the vote on Sal still seems a little forced to me. Do you have any other scumreads, Slamburger? One or two, preferably with an reason as to why attached would be really helpful to get a better read on you. Your actions read really scummy to me, but I've been wrong before quite a bit. In the meantime, does anyone else share Slam's opinion on Sal? I really don't see him as scum at the moment, but I may be biased.
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May 17, 2018 12:14
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Slamburger posted:Here is the crux of your issue with my vote, and its Anon's problem not my problem. She disappeared. I would have loved to engage with her more and get her to post some more content to better assess my initial read. But guess what, making a scummy post and then disappearing is scummy (as you admit). It's a decent enough D1 case and I don't feel bad about it. I'm not sure then why you pushed a case on me with this as your defense. I said this same thing about my vote on Anon. I may not have said it as elegantly as you did but that was what I waa trying to say.
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May 17, 2018 12:32
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Yami Fenrir posted:Do you have any other scumreads, Slamburger? Alasdair is high on my list. I think his pushing on Mr.F (Magnus) for lying feels fake and really easy. Mr.F's "I have a dayvig" seems like a low-risk harmless lie to poke people and doesn't seem scummy to me at all. A lot of his other content is sprinkled with snipey comments and non-reads. I also have a gut read on DB, but I can't really point to any specific content. As for your case, I don't necessarily think its fake/scummy but rather just informed by a new-player assessment of scumtells which I think are just incorrect. Also, I'm neutral on this regarding Sal: Jonathan Fisk posted:I don't see it in sal. We're unconfirmed masons and he's been pretty on point with his reads in that chat Posting your reads in unconfirmed mason chat seems scummy: It lets you buddy up to your partner without drawing heat from the people you are accusing and its generally anti-town not to share your reads. But on the other hand, being too quiet in mason chat can be a scum tell too since its more work to have to fake that dialogue as well. So like I said, netural. I'd rather Sal post his "on point" reads in the thread so we can all evaluate them rather than having his mason buddy have to defend him. Sal, you want to share? Also heads up I'm headed to a business conference today and won't be able to post much if at all until this evening.
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May 17, 2018 12:48
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I'm not sure why J Fisk said reads because I haven't posted cases nor do I feel any obligation to post the details of what we've said as it's mostly been get to know you small talk. This is the one I will post: "I'm sort of on the fence TBH. I think I would be fine with Chores or Yami, but not really feeling Anon." Which was posted at 1:12pm CST (roughly 6 hours before the end of day). I still feel Chores but am not feeling Yami anymore. My main reason for not feeling Anon was I didn't like the initial rush of votes. However as the day went on and she vanished that initial rush of votes was less suspect to me.
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May 17, 2018 13:08
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So Sal, who is your top scumpick, chores?
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May 17, 2018 13:26
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Chores mostly due to the high volume / low content nature of their posts. It's super easy (and scummy) to drive by post without offering any supporting evidence. When I get home from work today I'll work on a list. I can't promise it will be in depth but it will give content so people at least see where my head is at
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May 17, 2018 13:44
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alasdair and mr f are scumbros
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b-minus1 posted:alasdair and mr f are scumbros I strongly doubt that. I won't rule out Alasdair being scum, but I'm reasonably confident that Mr F is Town.
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