X-Wing 2.5: We are altering the rules. Pray we don't alter them any further.

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overdesigned: Apr 10, 2003; We are compassion...; Lipstick Apathy

I'd get the SSD just as like, a display piece.

...in two years when they're on clearance

# ? Aug 2, 2018 04:45

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# ? Jun 11, 2024 14:42

Devlan Mud: Apr 10, 2006; I'll hear your stories when we come back, alright?

Raged posted:

Lol the SSD is for Armada's version of epic which I have never seen played.

Armada players are going to be pissed. They have had next to nothing announced in a year+

I don't really understand why it's twice the price of an X-Wing Corellian Corvette or Imperial Raider, but maybe it's significantly bigger than those, I can't really tell.

# ? Aug 2, 2018 05:12

Raged: Jul 21, 2003; A revolution of beats

Would you guys agree that if you have Qi'ra and trick shot on a ship and TL a rock that Qi'ra's ability would make trick shot useless?

Also with the wording would it not also make Han's ability useless?

Qi'ra
While you move and perform attacks, you ignore all obstacles that you are locking.

Raged fucked around with this message at 07:19 on Aug 2, 2018

# ? Aug 2, 2018 07:15

PST: Jul 5, 2012; If only Milliband had eaten a vegan sausage roll instead of a bacon sandwich, we wouldn't be in this mess.

Raged posted:

Lol the SSD is for Armada's version of epic which I have never seen played.

Armada players are going to be pissed. They have had next to nothing announced in a year+

Probably because it's the first armada epic ship so there was no epic play before.

But yes there are a bunch of ships they could release and it looks like this will be the only thing in a year. Maybe there'll be another wave next autumn so only 18- odd months between waves.

# ? Aug 2, 2018 09:04

enigmahfc: Oct 10, 2003; EFF TEE DUB!!
EFF TEE DUB!!

So I know someone else here said they�d were at the 9am .2.0 event here at ten on, but I do not remembered who. I�m the guy in the �Genesis does what Nintendon�t� shirt, if you care to say hi or anything.

# ? Aug 2, 2018 13:11

Acebuckeye13: Nov 2, 2010; Against All Tyrants; Ultra Carp

How does the 2.0 event work? Do they give you lists, do you make one, what's going on

# ? Aug 2, 2018 15:28

Arquinsiel: Jun 1, 2006; "There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

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bunnyofdoom posted:

I am legit interested in all of these things.

And laffo now three factions ahve tie fighters.

Four. Three already had them with the new faction breakdown.

ETA: you covered that later, my bad.

Arquinsiel fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Aug 2, 2018

# ? Aug 2, 2018 16:43

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

Acebuckeye13 posted:

How does the 2.0 event work? Do they give you lists, do you make one, what's going on

You get a core set and either a Y-wing or a TIE advanced, depending on what you signed up for. Use them to make a threat 5 list. I went with Luke and a Gold Squadron vet.

# ? Aug 2, 2018 18:57

Poopy Palpy: Jun 10, 2000; Im da fwiggin Poopy Palpy XD

Rules reference is up:

https://images-cdn.fantasyflightgames.com/filer_public/b4/ab/b4ab49f3-e25a-4611-baea-4d1e4a84c18b/swzrulesreference_compressed.pdf

I'm a weirdo who is very excited that tractor tokens are circular now.

# ? Aug 2, 2018 19:02

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

I went 1-2 in the launch event. We all got that x-wing damage deck too, which was nice.

# ? Aug 2, 2018 19:18

bunnyofdoom: Mar 29, 2008; [b]BUNNIES ARE CUTE BUT DEADLY/b]

From Reddit:

First two clone wars ships are the delta jedi interceptor, and the sith infiltration which is a medium based ship with cloak.

Woulda prefered vulture droids, but hey, medium based cloak is fun too.

# ? Aug 2, 2018 19:39

lazerus06: May 19, 2004

Kylo is a an initiative 5, ability is basically the same, spend a force to assign "I'll show you the dark side." Autothrusters baked into the Silencer.

Edit - Omega Leader is now named Midnight, and is initiative 6

Poe says after you perform an action, you may spend one charge to perform one white action treating it as red. T70 has one regen charge. Can equip missiles, torps and cannons.

lazerus06 fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Aug 2, 2018

# ? Aug 2, 2018 20:10

bunnyofdoom: Mar 29, 2008; [b]BUNNIES ARE CUTE BUT DEADLY/b]

Resistance preview is up

That a-wing dial!

also, I needs me Heroic stapled to every ship. I am that bad at dice.

# ? Aug 2, 2018 20:44

Some Numbers: Sep 28, 2006; "LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"

Scum TIEs ignore asteroids.

As their ship ability.

# ? Aug 2, 2018 21:01

Some Numbers: Sep 28, 2006; "LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"

The new Black One gives the ship SLAM, but it looks like it's a oneshot?

# ? Aug 2, 2018 21:03

Kata-Haro: Oct 21, 2010

Omega Leader kept their ability and is now Initiative 6!

Edit: Actually there is a slight change to the wording which means O.leaders victim's dice can't be modified regardless of source, which means no more Juke shenanigans

Kata-Haro fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Aug 2, 2018

# ? Aug 2, 2018 21:24

I ride bikes all day: Sep 10, 2007; I shitposted in the same thread for 2 years and all I got was this red text av. Ask me about my autism!; College Slice

Looks like The Inquisitor is now just a TIE Advanced with 1 Force. That correct?

# ? Aug 2, 2018 21:26

ConfusedUs: Feb 24, 2004; Bees?
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What the gently caress, they renamed Omega Leader to Midnight instead of Lockdown? This is the first time I've been truly disappointed in second edition.

Brb putting my stuff on ebay oh who am I kidding sign me up for some of the mining TIEs while you're at it

# ? Aug 2, 2018 21:27

Devlan Mud: Apr 10, 2006; I'll hear your stories when we come back, alright?

I ride bikes all day posted:

Looks like The Inquisitor is now just a TIE Advanced with 1 Force. That correct?

Nah, that�s a generic inquisitor.

# ? Aug 2, 2018 21:27

Admiral Joeslop: Jul 8, 2010

Some Numbers posted:

The new Black One gives the ship SLAM, but it looks like it's a oneshot?

Consistent with The Last Jedi, makes sense.

Did a Last Man Standing this morning. Three of the six players had never played X-wing at all. I kind of cleaned house without trying. I felt bad at first but everyone got a new damage deck (Vader, Lando or Ashoka themed), a couple acrylic Force tokens, and an alt art Soontir with 2.0 rules.

Edit:

Admiral Joeslop fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Aug 2, 2018

# ? Aug 2, 2018 21:28

I ride bikes all day: Sep 10, 2007; I shitposted in the same thread for 2 years and all I got was this red text av. Ask me about my autism!; College Slice

Devlan Mud posted:

Nah, that�s a generic inquisitor.

Oh, I see it now. The Inquisitor is now The Grand Inquisitor. It's an interesting take on his old ability: While you defend at attack range 1, you may spend 1 Force to prevent the range 1 bonus. While you perform an attack against a defender at attack range 2-3, you may spend 1 Force to apply the range 1 bonus.

# ? Aug 2, 2018 21:31

TheCenturion: May 3, 2013; HI I LIKE TO GIVE ADVICE ON RELATIONSHIPS

FFG's unwritten rule: when in doubt, release a TIE fighter or Falcon expansion.

# ? Aug 2, 2018 21:58

Raged: Jul 21, 2003; A revolution of beats

That CPT. Seevor ability for the mining Tie is pretty friggin nice.

# ? Aug 2, 2018 23:20

flightless greeb: Jan 28, 2016

What's even left for them in Rebels now that the show is over? They've got the big version of the Fang Fighter anything else?? Maybe the Sentinel class shuttle in case they ever invent a short cargo haul minigame and need more shuttles??

# ? Aug 2, 2018 23:28

Jxforema: Sep 23, 2005; long live the Space Pope

They could do that AWAC Gonzanti as a new epic

# ? Aug 2, 2018 23:43

Improbable Lobster: Jan 6, 2012; "From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.; Buglord

Wasn't the first scum epic a modified gonzanti?

# ? Aug 2, 2018 23:46

ConfusedUs: Feb 24, 2004; Bees?
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flightless greeb posted:

What's even left for them in Rebels now that the show is over? They've got the big version of the Fang Fighter anything else?? Maybe the Sentinel class shuttle in case they ever invent a short cargo haul minigame and need more shuttles??

Honestly I expect few new ships for empire, scum, and rebels. Just re releases of old ones with most entirely new ships arriving in the smaller factions.

# ? Aug 2, 2018 23:57

Recoome: Nov 9, 2013; Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

still no TIE Avenger

# ? Aug 3, 2018 00:12

bunnyofdoom: Mar 29, 2008; [b]BUNNIES ARE CUTE BUT DEADLY/b]

flightless greeb posted:

What's even left for them in Rebels now that the show is over? They've got the big version of the Fang Fighter anything else?? Maybe the Sentinel class shuttle in case they ever invent a short cargo haul minigame and need more shuttles??

The super b-wing? [uurl=http://starwarsrebels.wikia.com/wiki/Taylander_Shuttle]This thing?[/url]

Uh uh...I got nothing.

# ? Aug 3, 2018 00:20

alg: Mar 14, 2007; A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

old Poe/Black One was a lot more interesting

hopefully he isn't too fragile now

# ? Aug 3, 2018 00:27

flightless greeb: Jan 28, 2016

ConfusedUs posted:

Honestly I expect few new ships for empire, scum, and rebels. Just re releases of old ones with most entirely new ships arriving in the smaller factions.

You're probably right, maybe just new stuff to keep up with new films. (Can't imagine the TIE Brute from SOLO won't make it into the game). I just hope we get repaints with some new models thrown in occasionally. For example, it looks like the 2.0 T70 and TIE/FO are both the same model and paint job as 1.0 Guess we aren't getting folding wing T70s?

# ? Aug 3, 2018 00:41

AndyElusive: Jan 7, 2007

What does Integrated S-Foils do for T70 X-Wangs?

AndyElusive fucked around with this message at 07:51 on Aug 3, 2018

# ? Aug 3, 2018 00:48

Bear Is Driving: Mar 30, 2003

flightless greeb posted:

it looks like the 2.0 T70 and TIE/FO are both the same model and paint job as 1.0 Guess we aren't getting folding wing T70s?

The new T-70's wings will fold. For some reason it doesn't mention this in the article but they said it would (and showed it with the wings closed) during the in-flight report presentation at GenCon. How long it will take to get a Black One paint-scheme with folding wings is anyone's guess though.

# ? Aug 3, 2018 08:56

thespaceinvader: Mar 30, 2011; The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

I'm hype. Rules Ref looks great, tooonnes of design space, lots of clear keywording, and I don't think, anything currently left unclear.

# ? Aug 3, 2018 09:00

Bistromatic: Oct 3, 2004; And turn the inner eye
To see its path...

Yeah, I was a bit worried after the starter box rulebook but I wasn't aware that a separate reference was a thing. This looks pretty thorough and good, hype restored.

# ? Aug 3, 2018 09:13

TheCenturion: May 3, 2013; HI I LIKE TO GIVE ADVICE ON RELATIONSHIPS

Huh, did I just completely miss this concept?

quote:

While an evading ship defends, during the Modify Defense Dice step, it can spend one or more evade tokens to change that many of it's blank or (eyeball) results to (evade) results.

Evades no longer *add* evade results, meaning that an agility 1 ship with an evade token now has a max of 1 evade result, instead of a max of 2 evade results.

Ooh, this wording will need clarification.

quote:

Proximity mine:
When this device detonates, that ship rolls 2 attack dice. That ship then suffers 1 (hit) damage plus 1(hit/crit) damage for each matching result.

Could be read as (and I assume this is what they actually mean):
1) suffer one (hit)
2) roll two dice
3) suffer whatever damage the dice say

or

1) roll two dice
2) Look at die 1. Suffer one (hit) plus whatever the die says
3) Look at die 2. Suffer one (hit) plug whatever the die says

Actually, a third way:
1) roll two dice
2) look at die 1. If it's a hit or a crit, suffer 1 (hit) plus what the die says. If it's blank, suffer nothing.
2) look at die 2. If it's a hit or a crit, suffer 1 (hit) plus what the die says. If it's blank, suffer nothing.

TheCenturion fucked around with this message at 15:12 on Aug 3, 2018

# ? Aug 3, 2018 15:00

ConfusedUs: Feb 24, 2004; Bees?
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TheCenturion posted:

Huh, did I just completely miss this concept?

Evades no longer *add* evade results, meaning that an agility 1 ship with an evade token now has a max of 1 evade result, instead of a max of 2 evade results.

Yeah. I'm fine with multiple evade tokens changing multiple dice. There aren't many ways to get multiple evades on most ships, and they don't add results.

Also, I think I've found the first Imperial Ace ship that I'm in love with in 2.0. New Whisper doesn't hit as hard, but is far more survivable, even against higher initiative threats, with this setup.

"Whisper" (52)
Lone Wolf (4)
Collision Detector (5)
Grand Inquisitor (16)
Stealth Device (6)

Total: 83

Anyway, here's a ship that gets a free evade action when it decloaks. Usually takes focus action. Has three agility, five if cloaked, likely hanging out behind rocks for another +1. Grand Inquisitor lets you react to higher PS threats when they reveal their dial; you can roll or cloak to protect yourself (or if that isn't necessary, it's another free dice mod per round from his force token). Lone Wolf gets you a reroll on offense or defense, whichever is necessary.

So to recap: reactive actions even against higher Init threats, focus/evade/force behind 3-5 agility, able to easily use rocks for cover for more defense, gets another evade if attacks and hits, one re-roll on any die per round.

Fits very well, points-wise, with any of the following archetypes:
Triple Aces: Whisper + any two other aces that aren't Vader or a defender.
Big drat Aces: Whisper + Vader or Defender + chump blocker
Ace + Miniswarm: Fits with Howl + 2 Black Crack + 1 Academy
Support Aces: Support Ship + Whisper + any other ace that isn't Vader or a defender.

I'm most excited for Whisper + Miniswarm, which I think is more forgiving than the others.

"Whisper" (52)
Lone Wolf (4)
Collision Detector (5)
Grand Inquisitor (16)
Stealth Device (6)

"Howlrunner" (40)

Black Squadron Ace (26)
Crack Shot (1)

Black Squadron Ace (26)
Crack Shot (1)

Academy Pilot (23)

Total: 200

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# ? Aug 3, 2018 15:18

ConfusedUs: Feb 24, 2004; Bees?
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TheCenturion posted:

Ooh, this wording will need clarification.

Could be read as (and I assume this is what they actually mean):
1) suffer one (hit)
2) roll two dice
3) suffer whatever damage the dice say

or

1) roll two dice
2) Look at die 1. Suffer one (hit) plus whatever the die says
3) Look at die 2. Suffer one (hit) plug whatever the die says

Actually, a third way:
1) roll two dice
2) look at die 1. If it's a hit or a crit, suffer 1 (hit) plus what the die says. If it's blank, suffer nothing.
2) look at die 2. If it's a hit or a crit, suffer 1 (hit) plus what the die says. If it's blank, suffer nothing.

I can't see any way to read it other than the first one, man.

# ? Aug 3, 2018 15:20

Funzo: Dec 6, 2002

Holy poo poo I hate 2 Reaper lists. Playing in the big Gen Con tournament and they�re everywhere. When I can mod to 4 hits and do no damage that�s not a lot of fun to fly against.

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ConfusedUs: Feb 24, 2004; Bees?
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Funzo posted:

Holy poo poo I hate 2 Reaper lists. Playing in the big Gen Con tournament and they�re everywhere. When I can mod to 4 hits and do no damage that�s not a lot of fun to fly against.

How are reapers negating 4 hits?

I'm not disputing that they're frustrating to fly against (jam is crazy powerful), but I've never had trouble hurting one any time I had multiple hits on the board.

# ? Aug 3, 2018 16:02

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