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cinci zoo sniper posted:Looks like coalition will be all parties except Saskaņa and KPV. This is the coalition Germany is headed for if current polling trends continue until the next election in 2021 so keep me posted how that goes
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Looks like coalition will be all parties except Saskaņa and KPV. Being in opposition is a pretty good outcome for both of them. Neither has to deliver on their promises and they get to call out the coalition whenever it inevitably fucks up. edit: Where did you hear that? My Twitter feed doesn't have anything concrete yet. HorrificExistence posted:a country created by nazis turns out to have lovely political thought a quality contribution to a thread. poast more pls. a podcast for cats fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Oct 7, 2018 |
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Oct 7, 2018 18:56
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aphid_licker posted:This is the coalition Germany is headed for if current polling trends continue until the next election in 2021 so keep me posted how that goes Ouch, what are you getting - AfD with CSU or whatever will fill the void left by the decline of CDU? Tonton Macoute posted:Being in opposition is a pretty good outcome for both of them. Neither has to deliver on their promises and they get to call out the coalition whenever it inevitably fucks up. I saw it on LSM, they reference behind the curtain discussions. Nothing overly specific, but it makes sense.
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Oct 7, 2018 19:17
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HorrificExistence posted:latvia, much like amerikkka, is an invention of the nefarious prussian Close, but it's actually an invention of the Hanseatic Conspiracy, which still lurks in the shadows today. It's still mostly German, though.
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Oct 7, 2018 19:24
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Any hyperwar veterans around to set the record straight?
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Oct 7, 2018 19:28
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Close, but it's actually an invention of the Hanseatic Conspiracy, which still lurks in the shadows today. And Ukraine is of course an Austro-Hungarian conspiracy! More seriously, in rare positive news --- it sounds Romania's referendum to put a ban on same sex marriage in their constitution failed, with turn out of only roughly 19% (I am not 100% sure that's the exact final number), while 30% was required.
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Tonton Macoute posted:The way I understood it, OIK is a scheme that is intended to subsidize producers of renewable energy. The public distributor (think the public power company) buys energy from small and independent producers that produce energy using renewable sources or co-generation plants and passes a significant part of the cost onto the endusers, thus raising the energy prices for everyone. No sarcasm here, legit interested
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Did you again drink from a ditch, slavs? sorry, my vatnik vest was too tight, irony not clear. GreyjoyBastard posted:Close, but it's actually an invention of the Hanseatic Conspiracy, which still lurks in the shadows today. one of these days we'll track down those merchants of Bremen and punish them for their sing-songy ways
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steinrokkan posted:Ignore that, plenty of DnD goons have recently decided that all nations east of Berlin are fake products of Nazism and should be subjugated by Russia to stomp the contamination out of them. It's just a cool and acceptable way for these posters to fulfill their need to be racist. When they aren't calling Baltic countries nests of Hitler worshippers, they are calling for Russia to overthrow the Banderites in Ukraine and start the next Holodomor or for tanks to roll into Budapest or whatever. All nations are fake, but it's equally fake to claim that one nation is actually another. as the vatniki do.
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steinrokkan posted:Ignore that, plenty of DnD goons have recently decided that all nations east of Berlin are fake products of Nazism and should be subjugated by Russia to stomp the contamination out of them. It's just a cool and acceptable way for these posters to fulfill their need to be racist. When they aren't calling Baltic countries nests of Hitler worshippers, they are calling for Russia to overthrow the Banderites in Ukraine and start the next Holodomor or for tanks to roll into Budapest or whatever. Imperialism is the real anti-imperialism lib. 
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Ouch, what are you getting - AfD with CSU or whatever will fill the void left by the decline of CDU? CSU will probably remain a regional Bavarian party and if they didn't they'd be competing for the same voters as AfD so that would probably not be a threat federally. I think the cordon sanitaire around AfD will hold one more election, and since they are cruising towards 20% rn while CDU and SPD are losing votes it's looking like it's gonna have to be a three-party-coalition at least, which was what I had to think of when you said "all parties but two". Talking About Germany in the Eastern Europe Thread 
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Oct 8, 2018 06:49
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There have been three investigative journalists killed in Europe in less than 12 months. Caruana Galizia in Malta, Jan Kuciak in Slovakia and now. It's kind of bad anf made worse by the fact this barely registers in the grand scheme of shittiness.
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We planned to publish tomorrow, but we heard the Telegraph got the name, so we've spent the last two hours racing to beat them to it. We've loads more information on him we'll be publishing tomorrow, including forensic digital facial analysis and interviews with people who know him.
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Oct 8, 2018 19:57
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aphid_licker posted:Talking About Germany in the Eastern Europe Thread Germany is Europe thus East Germany is Eastern Europe. AfD talk is perfectly thread appropriate. 
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cinci zoo sniper posted:our green party and our agrarian party are the same entity.
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anilEhilated posted:Out of all weird poo poo I'm learning about Latvia here, this weirds me out the most. How the hell is that supposed to work? https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3765883&pagenumber=78&perpage=40#post463798439 Here's an earlier discussion about that.
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anilEhilated posted:Out of all weird poo poo I'm learning about Latvia here, this weirds me out the most. How the hell is that supposed to work? About as well as you would expect. With literal tire fires and such. I think that a portion of the society is only now waking up to the fact that 'Farmers' in the 21st century has an agrarian rather than a pastoral meaning. edit: beaten while searching for a video of the fire, but still
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Oct 8, 2018 20:36
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Watching Have I Got News For You and hearing about Brown Moses and Bellingcat is the weirdest thing.
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Sorry if this is too grouchio-esque. But does anyone recall a specific case of "state" russian news referring to Kievens as Banderists during euromaidan? Something similer? This is for a thinkpeice ya,
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HorrificExistence posted:Sorry if this is too grouchio-esque. But does anyone recall a specific case of "state" russian news referring to Kievens as Banderists during euromaidan? Something similer? This is for a thinkpeice ya, Depends o you “state news” definitely. Anything big and official will not have this, far too crass in contrast to professional parroting about organised right wing groups.
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Depends o you “state news” definitely. Anything big and official will not have this, far too crass in contrast to professional parroting about organised right wing groups. Hmm, maybe it would be better to look statements of Duma reps? I'm looking for just evidence of the Bandera perception in the state apperatus.
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So Graham Phillips turned up at our press event today, and thought it would be awesome to stand in front of dozens of journalists who had been waiting patiently for about an hour and start screaming at me about NATO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeI3GssR2r0
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D&D LARP is pretty good. Even has a shitposter melting down.
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please post all your best pierogi recipes here i finally noticed what the thread title was, whoops
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I'm at work so any deets on the Phillips meltdown would be appreciated. How did he show up at the event, I thought he couldn't enter the country?
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Scaramouche posted:I'm at work so any deets on the Phillips meltdown would be appreciated. How did he show up at the event, I thought he couldn't enter the country? So we held an event in Parliament to release details of our new report on the Skripal suspect, and loads of journalists wanted interviews, so we agreed to do interviews outside, so there was this big row of cameras and journalists waiting for us. As soon as I start speaking Graham Phillips appears and starts shouting about how it's all NATO propaganda, seriously loving off the waiting journalists, and especially when he stands directly in front of them to push his camera in my face. Everyone is shouting at him to gently caress off, and he's lucky they didn't lamp him. Eventually the police dragged him away and I went off to do one on one interviews.
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HorrificExistence posted:Hmm, maybe it would be better to look statements of Duma reps? I'm looking for just evidence of the Bandera perception in the state apperatus. Oh, for that you can find enough googling "site:tass.ru бандеровцы" and "site:tass.ru бандера". Apparently I had my expectations a bit to high for lexicon used, although some articles do make a more classical approach of "banderovtsy, who could be called so referencing the name of their leader". Or, directly to point of your question, just read https://tass.ru/politika/1200389.
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Party Plane Jones posted:please post all your best pierogi recipes here Sorry, I am not Polish. Not that I know any varenyky recipes, either
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Oh, for that you can find enough googling "site:tass.ru бандеровцы" and "site:tass.ru бандера". Apparently I had my expectations a bit to high for lexicon used, although some articles do make a more classical approach of "banderovtsy, who could be called so referencing the name of their leader". Or, directly to point of your question, just read https://tass.ru/politika/1200389. Oh this is perfect! Thank you! I'm really interested in the reclamation of Bandera as a hero and a villain, in Ukraine and Russia respectively. Particularly how both views obscure the actual victims of the OUN. This definitely helps.
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HorrificExistence posted:Oh this is perfect! Thank you! In Russia not much has changed since Soviet times, topic was just situationally brought up and refurnished to prod the public opinion the right way.
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Brown Moses posted:So Graham Phillips turned up at our press event today, and thought it would be awesome to stand in front of dozens of journalists who had been waiting patiently for about an hour and start screaming at me about NATO Hm... Hm... Yes. I see, yes. But where is your evidence?
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Brown Moses posted:So Graham Phillips turned up at our press event today, and thought it would be awesome to stand in front of dozens of journalists who had been waiting patiently for about an hour and start screaming at me about NATO I'm low-key surprised/sad he didn't start yelling severely mispronounced homophobic slurs in Russian at you as he was being pushed away. Also, is that Simon Ostrovsky on the thumbnail?
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Brown Moses posted:So Graham Phillips turned up at our press event today, and thought it would be awesome to stand in front of dozens of journalists who had been waiting patiently for about an hour and start screaming at me about NATO NATO SOROS CIA propagandist. "I'm the real journalist!" Graham Philips needs to pick a bogeyman you work for BM. Amazing his involvement as a journalist started because his girlfriend was at Euromaidan and he wasn't able to use all of his sex tourist credits before they expired.
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Brown Moses posted:So we held an event in Parliament to release details of our new report on the Skripal suspect, and loads of journalists wanted interviews, so we agreed to do interviews outside, so there was this big row of cameras and journalists waiting for us. As soon as I start speaking Graham Phillips appears and starts shouting about how it's all NATO propaganda, seriously loving off the waiting journalists, and especially when he stands directly in front of them to push his camera in my face. Everyone is shouting at him to gently caress off, and he's lucky they didn't lamp him. Eventually the police dragged him away and I went off to do one on one interviews. That was very interesting, even with most journalists' questions inaudible. Please post some links to proper interviews when you have them. What's with the anti-Brexit protesters? Are they for real or ...maybe hired to make the event messy and less credible?  And who's the guy interviewed on the left around 7:56? Another member of the Bellingcat team?
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I was there with my colleague Christo Grozev, who worked on the majority of the Skripal reporting, he was speaking with the journalists at various points. Bob Seely MP hosted us in Parliament, where we gave a briefing to the press. There was an anti-Brexit protester there, apparently he's a feature of that location, as it's a place where they film a lot of news related stuff, and he likes to hang around the background of stuff. He was pretty cool, asking Graham to let us speak. It was a weird moment for me, to say the least.
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