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Broken Record Talk posted:Absolutely. Ashmantle is wearing the same armour that Cassian Dracos (a very cool Salamanders Dreadnought character with rules) first received from Vulkan during the 30k era, and a Chaplain Dread can just be used as a fancy Castraferrum Dreadnought; I have a whole Talon of them in my Sons of Horus army. For some reason I thought Cassian was a contemptor but I just checked and I guess he doesn’t have atomantic shielding. .....I might need to get an Ashmantle now. Cassian seems really fun as a ZM HQ.
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He's real cool and I grabbed him before the big FW price hike, knowing Salamanders was down the road for me
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Alright, I need a fluff check. The White Scars rite of war Sagyar Mazan represents White Scars that fell off the loyalist wagon, but returned to the light and seek absolution through suicide missions. In game terms, the force must be Loyalist, and it must be a shattered legion. I envision a stormseer (WS librarian) that didn't really know what he was dealing with and got a little carried away. As a result, several members of his clan became physically corrupted by chaos. Upon finding out, his superiors were like, "that's hosed up, go Sagyar Mazan". The stormseer and his corrupted clan would be Word Bearers on paper to fulfill the shattered legion requirement, and be Gal Vorbak in White Scars colors. A little too far out there? Any other legions make for a particularly fluffy pairing?
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Ghazk posted:The stormseer and his corrupted clan would be Word Bearers on paper to fulfill the shattered legion requirement, and be Gal Vorbak in White Scars colors. Yes. Pair with some DA lutherloyalists-turned-lionloyalists. RG would also work. Otherwise you could pair with some outcast NL, IW, DG. DJ Dizzy fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Oct 17, 2018 |
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  I’m excited to announce the public release of Tactical Strike Plus (TS+).This project is the culmination of several years of development, design, and playtesting from the idiots within this thread. I’m so drat proud and grateful for the hours of hard work everyone put into the things that made TS+ possible- from the editing, formatting, testing, photography, and daily reminders for me to kill myself. Thanks goons! You can visit our dedicated website to download the rules, leave feedback about the system, share your Strike Force, or send us a hate fueled message. Word of mouth is how this project started, so please share this with your Warhammer community and help us get the word out. Our only hope is that this supplement is enjoyable and that it inspires this community to continue playing, being inspired by, and being part of the Horus Heresy. Here’s a short FAQ: quote:Q: What books do I need in order to play Tactical Strike Plus?
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Ghazk posted:Alright, I need a fluff check. Unless I’m really misunderstanding what you’re doing, that isn’t possible within the rules; quite simply, NO Loyalist Word Bearers exist in the rules (if they’re Word Bearers, they automatically become Traitors) - so you couldn’t actually run them with Loyalist White Scars. My best off-the-cuff suggestion is do the “Chaosy” guys as Thousand Suns buffed up with Biomancy BS, to represent the taint of the Warp. Plus, their “Oh poo poo, everyone taking a Pinning Test!” rule could represent the Librarian(s) being in over their heads and causing mayhem.
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BULBASAUR posted:
Hell yes bruther
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Broken Record Talk posted:Unless I’m really misunderstanding what you’re doing, that isn’t possible within the rules; quite simply, NO Loyalist Word Bearers exist in the rules (if they’re Word Bearers, they automatically become Traitors) - so you couldn’t actually run them with Loyalist White Scars. It's posts like this and the one it's responding to that make HH fascinating to me.
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Hixson posted:Box dreads are still pretty nasty in TS+ Box dreads are pretty nasty (looking)
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Some of our guys run contemptors as box dreads, so they still look cool, but aren't too crazy strong
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Tactical strike + looks pretty good so far, I wonder if you had a look at the Mournival version? They add in build your own characters, which could be an interesting idea. I think what you have done is very good and well considered, and having played and enjoyed Kill-Team, making a 30k version of it is awesome.
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I haven’t seen the Mournival version, but I’ve seen the Mournival character builder and I really like that idea. One fundamental difference is that we’ve tied everything into existing rules, so if they get updated TS+ remains current. The character builder is awesome, but it will need to get updated with every release from FW. The main thing I hope to do for 3.0 is to tie TS into regular games of 30k (so you have characters that can run missions before a 30k game to determine things like who goes first, where to place objectives, etc.) but I’d love to add a character builder too. e: extremely cool, thanks for sharing v BULBASAUR fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Oct 18, 2018 |
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Are people talking poo poo about box dreads in here??????  xutech posted:It's well worth joining the Mournival group on facebook just for pictures of the "kill teams" they have for their campaign. "Special Rule: Balanced"
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Do y’all know if the ironclad mk iv chainfist will fit on regular mk ivs without looking dumb? I’m looking at boxy bros now and assault cannon/chainfist seems fun.
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:Do y’all know if the ironclad mk iv chainfist will fit on regular mk ivs without looking dumb? I’m looking at boxy bros now and assault cannon/chainfist seems fun. Yes, it will fit the standard MkIV Dread; they’re basically exactly the same model, in terms of that stuff. You playing Blood Angels?
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Broken Record Talk posted:Yes, it will fit the standard MkIV Dread; they’re basically exactly the same model, in terms of that stuff. Imperial Fists, but I was going to do some Blood Angels at some point to make a Siege of Terra themed army.
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Broken Record Talk posted:Unless I’m really misunderstanding what you’re doing, that isn’t possible within the rules; quite simply, NO Loyalist Word Bearers exist in the rules (if they’re Word Bearers, they automatically become Traitors) - so you couldn’t actually run them with Loyalist White Scars. Ah missed that bit. It is a bit of a dealbreaker. TS would be a fluffy choice too, I think the two Legions were pretty close.
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Safety Factor posted:Are people talking poo poo about box dreads in here?????? I don't live in their area and I'm not connected to the group, but I have met and played 30k with some of those guys and they seem pretty reasonable and nice. If you have honest criticisms I think they would appreciate you sending them feedback about their units and balance - sometimes even having a large pool of testers etc can still blind you to things an outsider can spot.
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xutech posted:If you have honest criticisms I think they would appreciate you sending them feedback about their units and balance - sometimes even having a large pool of testers etc can still blind you to things an outsider can spot. That’s good to hear, I think the consensus on the Slack was that we liked some of the individual units, and the overall effort, but some of the units were just insane collections of special rules (including one with the aforementioned BALANCED special rule) coupled with low point costs that were uh... completely ridiculous. Always god to hear that people are chill and earnestly trying to make the game more fun.
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Broken Record Talk posted:That’s good to hear, I think the consensus on the Slack was that we liked some of the individual units, and the overall effort, but some of the units were just insane collections of special rules (including one with the aforementioned BALANCED special rule) coupled with low point costs that were uh... completely ridiculous. Can I get a link? I want to read those character creation rules. Some of the new units were insane conceptually, like a possessed blank.
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Lol which one of you is this https://twitter.com/GamesWerkshop/status/1052872764728721408
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Ghazk posted:Alright, I need a fluff check. Fluffwise the White Scars would collectively poo poo a brick if they found out. If it's a bunch of corrupted legionaries that decided to scamper off, then anything goes.
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:Lol which one of you is this lol! Look at the name, it says Games Werkshop, not Games Workshop. Would have been funny for GW to throw FW under the bus.
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Mango Polo posted:lol! Look at the name, it says Games Werkshop, not Games Workshop. So you then
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long-rear end nips Diane posted:So you then no, the 40k thread will confirm that I'm just the idiot who keeps getting fooled by that twitter though 
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Guy Goodbody posted:I don't know why you would expect quality or good decisions from Forge World, the people who decided to go all in on a lame Death Korps of Krieg model line instead of a Savlar Chem Dog line mods
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JcDent posted:mods Seriously, MODS!!!
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Guy Goodbody posted:I don't know why you would expect quality or good decisions from Forge World, the people who decided to go all in on a lame Death Korps of Krieg model line instead of a Savlar Chem Dog line Please leave and never come back.
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Guy Goodbody posted:I don't know why you would expect quality or good decisions from Forge World, the people who decided to go all in on a lame Death Korps of Krieg model line instead of a Savlar Chem Dog line Agreed
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Death Korps of Krieg -lame sad boys -just wanna die -gas masks only have one tube -they all look the same because they have no personality Savlar Chem Dogs -cool criminals -legally allowed to loot the dead of both sides -gas masks have as many tubes as can fit -each one is unique based on gear looted from the dead and number of tubes.
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Guy Goodbody posted:Death Korps of Krieg I love playing these armies in 30k
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Guy Goodbody posted:Death Korps of Krieg Honestly this checks out.
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Guy Goodbody - Seriously bad poster - Likes anime (a capital crime ITT) - Rap sheet a mile long, and none of it is for anything even remotely cool - Does not, in fact, have a good body
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Guy Goodbody posted:Death Korps of Krieg Tfw when he’s right and you know it
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Broken Record Talk posted:Guy Goodbody This is a compelling counter argument. I need to think on this now.
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