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Homo Simpson posted:playing anything after vegas is a sin Eh, Fallout 4 isn't bad it just also really isn't good either. It's just, like, there.
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BigglesSWE posted:Metro Exodus is out and portrays a post-nuclear war world much better hth Oh rad, guessing it's good then?
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Feb 18, 2019 02:57
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KakerMix posted:Oh rad, guessing it's good then? It's very good Like Metro and STALKER had a baby
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BigglesSWE posted:Metro Exodus is out and portrays a post-nuclear war world much better hth Fallout4 setting is realistically only 4-5 years after the bomb. It’s not even attempting to be realistic and I’m fine with that.
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Feb 18, 2019 03:20
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Fallom posted:It's very good I'm glad fallout is dead
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KakerMix posted:I'm glad fallout is dead I've been watching Cohh enthusiastically play through new Metro game these past couple of days, and yesterday after a long rant about how Bethesda gave the fans a hard, openhanded slap across the face with Fallout 76 and that he's stopped wearing his Fallout gear out of embarrassment he then ran into a showstopping bug that prevents you from being able to attack or interact in anyway. The solution to which is to restart whatever chapter you're on. He effectively lost 8 hours of progress and now manually backs up his own saves hourly but drat if he doesn't look like he's having a good time and jumped right back in once he had a chance to cool off. Game does look good, I have to admit. Will probably grab it when it's on sale.
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Psychotic Weasel posted:I've been watching Cohh enthusiastically play through new Metro game these past couple of days, and yesterday after a long rant about how Bethesda gave the fans a hard, openhanded slap across the face with Fallout 76 and that he's stopped wearing his Fallout gear out of embarrassment he then ran into a showstopping bug that prevents you from being able to attack or interact in anyway. The solution to which is to restart whatever chapter you're on. He effectively lost 8 hours of progress and now manually backs up his own saves hourly but drat if he doesn't look like he's having a good time and jumped right back in once he had a chance to cool off. lol I just realized why I hadn't seen it on Steam, because they suddenly flipped to exclusivity on another store. Goddamn you idiots, if you micro-slice up everything into different accounts you're just going to push piracy back into the mainstream!
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Feb 18, 2019 05:15
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KakerMix posted:lol I just realized why I hadn't seen it on Steam, because they suddenly flipped to exclusivity on another store. dont support steams monopoly, thanks
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Feb 18, 2019 05:29
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Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:dont support steams monopoly, thanks Don't make the mistake of thinking Epic has your interest at heart, they want more money and will exploit the poo poo out of everyone to get it like everyone else already does. The big draw circa 2000~ with piracy on PC was you could play the game without the CD being in the drive. Then digital distribution came along and all was well. Now it's all fracturing again and instead of a CD I need in my drive it's 3-4 accounts and software packages I have to have running just to consume some content.
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Feb 18, 2019 06:03
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It's not like you have to manually open and log into the store to play the game, I play steam games by clicking the game's icon on my desktop
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Fallom posted:It's very good hmmm I need to try this
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Feb 18, 2019 06:26
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KakerMix posted:Don't make the mistake of thinking Epic has your interest at heart, they want more money and will exploit the poo poo out of everyone to get it like everyone else already does. i use gog, thanks for looking out for me though
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Feb 18, 2019 06:27
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Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:dont support steams monopoly, thanks oh come on, steam hasn't had a monopoly in years now.
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2house2fly posted:It's not like you have to manually open and log into the store to play the game, I play steam games by clicking the game's icon on my desktop Yeah but not all games will let you play them without steam being on and the "game's icon" is actually a steam link which turns steam on and then boots the game. (unless you made the shortcut directly from the game directory and even then most of the time it needs steam to boot up first in order to play it) KakerMix posted:The big draw circa 2000~ with piracy on PC was you could play the game without the CD being in the drive. Then digital distribution came along and all was well. Now it's all fracturing again and instead of a CD I need in my drive it's 3-4 accounts and software packages I have to have running just to consume some content. It's already happening with streaming services, piracy dropped with the advent of Netflix and Hulu but its back on the rise because no one wanted to play nice with each other and everyone just had to have their own streaming platform with ~*exclusive content*~ Turns out people don't want to sign up and pay for 8 different services to watch the things they want to and will just turn around and say "gently caress it then" and go back to pirating it. Same goes for games, I just want all my poo poo in one place and not spread across 5 different resource hogging clients.
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Feb 18, 2019 07:38
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Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:dont support steams monopoly, thanks Storefront exclusivity is the enemy of all consumers my poor unfortunate friend, choices and competition is much better for us all. The problem with Epic's store isn't that it exists, that is a good thing all the time, even Origin's existence is a good thing for competition. Exclusivity is the problem, even if Metro Exodus' is apparently a timed one, as it limits YOUR choices as a consumer, never mind Steams dominance, if Epic wants to compete, they should do it properly: Make a better service than Steam. That's it, everything else is anti-consumer bullshit.
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I remember one of the best things GoG did was say "hey link your steam account and you'll unlock all the games* you already own there on GoG as well" *from decent companies who didn't turn around and say "NUH UH WE WANT THEM TO BUY IT TWICE" anyway
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Dragonstoned posted:Yeah but not all games will let you play them without steam being on and the "game's icon" is actually a steam link which turns steam on and then boots the game. (unless you made the shortcut directly from the game directory and even then most of the time it needs steam to boot up first in order to play it) Exactly. Zennimax with their store (and Fallout 76 lol) is like CBS and them trying to make a storefront with Star Trek. Or Disney with whatever the hell they are trying to do. Executives point at innovators like Valve and Netflix and go "Hey they make a bunch of money do what they do" but instead consumers just shrug and either don't consume or turn to piracy. Innovation is dead, long live copy cats that fail.
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simple solution make all your games an always-online battle royale hero loot shooter.
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Powershift posted:simple solution I'm retro so only MMORPGs for me
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KakerMix posted:The big draw circa 2000~ with piracy on PC was you could play the game without the CD being in the drive. I think the big draw was that you didn't have to pay for the game.
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Chomp8645 posted:I think the big draw was that you didn't have to pay for the game. Not for me it wasn't, that's why when Steam came out I stopped.
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Chomp8645 posted:I think the big draw was that you didn't have to pay for the game. Free stuff and all was a driver for sure, but let's not forget just how obnoxious dealing with CDs and copy protection was at the time. I owned Morrowind, but pirated it anyway because the copy protection was so screwy I couldn't even get it to run on release (a common enough issue Bethesda patched it out with the very first patch). There was definitely an era where the pirated/cracked versions of games often ran better.
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If you guys say so. I think in ye olde days the only thing I pirated despite legally owning anyway was Baldur's Gate 1 and 2. Mainly because yeah the CDs were ridiculous, it was like five discs for each game and I may have eventually lost some.
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There were/are DRM schemes pretty famous for loving your poo poo right up. Denovo being one.
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KakerMix posted:Exactly. Zennimax with their store (and Fallout 76 lol) is like CBS and them trying to make a storefront with Star Trek. Or Disney with whatever the hell they are trying to do. Executives point at innovators like Valve and Netflix and go "Hey they make a bunch of money do what they do" but instead consumers just shrug and either don't consume or turn to piracy. I mean..ok, but, at the same time, good video games are fun and such
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eviltastic posted:Free stuff and all was a driver for sure, but let's not forget just how obnoxious dealing with CDs and copy protection was at the time. I owned Morrowind, but pirated it anyway because the copy protection was so screwy I couldn't even get it to run on release (a common enough issue Bethesda patched it out with the very first patch). There was definitely an era where the pirated/cracked versions of games often ran better. 
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Donovan Trip posted:I mean..ok, but, at the same time, good video games are fun and such Ya they are and there are countless numbers of them, I can miss out on one.
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Donovan Trip posted:I mean..ok, but, at the same time, good video games are fun and such You're in the wrong place to bring those up.
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Wow, it's not that hard. I can't remember the last time I bought a game from the Steam Store. I use it as my front end gaming system, and buy exclusively game that are for Steam, because that's convenient for me. EVERY TIME I have bought a game for one of the other services (Uplay, Gog, whatever), I've ended up never playing beyond the first few hours. It's just too inconvenient for me to have more than one front end. I don't consider Steam a monopoly, because Valve is not usually get my money. Steam is the best front end with the most features, and I will continue using it until a better one comes up -- which probably won't happen. It makes me sad that I won't get to play games such as Metro Exodus (until they are on Steam), but not that sad since I never loved the Metro series anyways. Fallout is a great series, and I loved Fallout 4. Fallout 76 is a misstep, and I assume Bethesda will course correct in time.
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For all the ragging on 76 i haven't seen a lot of complaints about the bethesda launcher in this thread. Gonna assume it's actually hella good.
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Keeshhound posted:For as much bad press as 76 has received, 53 seems really high, actually. Most review sites, which exist to give even bad AAA games a 7, went pretty soft on it.
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heard u like girls posted:For all the ragging on 76 i haven't seen a lot of complaints about the bethesda launcher in this thread. Gonna assume it's actually hella good. It deleted peoples 50 gb BETA install and made them have to redownload it lmao
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heard u like girls posted:For all the ragging on 76 i haven't seen a lot of complaints about the bethesda launcher in this thread. Gonna assume it's actually hella good. Nobody is playing the game, thus nobody is bothered about the launcher.
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BillyC posted:It deleted peoples 50 gb BETA install and made them have to redownload it lmao Lol imagine re-downloading it
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heard u like girls posted:For all the ragging on 76 i haven't seen a lot of complaints about the bethesda launcher in this thread. Gonna assume it's actually hella good. it’s awful and annoying so I uninstalled it (and luckily the game too, before they made it so you had to buy the game in order to uninstall the beta client)
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On the topic of digital store fronts: it's annoying to have a different digital store/platform for every brand of game I own. It's also bad to support a monopoly because you'll lose any semblance of competitive pricing. Solution: there should be a third party application that collects your login/library data for each of the store fronts an allows you to manage all your games in one place. Why hasn't this been thought of already? It seems like a really simple solution.
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heard u like girls posted:For all the ragging on 76 i haven't seen a lot of complaints about the bethesda launcher in this thread. Gonna assume it's actually hella good. That’s because it would be like having the Black Plague and complaining about your nuts being itchy. Sure, it’s annoying, but there’s bigger concerns to deal with.
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heard u like girls posted:Lol imagine re-downloading it if someone refunded their preorder then the launcher wouldn't let them uninstall the game, because they didn't own it
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chaosapiant posted:On the topic of digital store fronts: it's annoying to have a different digital store/platform for every brand of game I own. It's also bad to support a monopoly because you'll lose any semblance of competitive pricing. Solution: there should be a third party application that collects your login/library data for each of the store fronts an allows you to manage all your games in one place. Why hasn't this been thought of already? It seems like a really simple solution. like it wont ever reach full feature parity mostly because the actual store owners would fight that tooth and nail but thats kinda what their launcher thing is going for
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